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I have hit a brick wall with this family.
My 4xgreat-grandfather is James Lacy (1744-1808). I am certain of this.
Then the trouble starts. I have a putative tree as follows:

- William Lacy (c.1705 - 1788) and Mary Toothaker
- James Lacy (1695-1735 or 1749) and Mary Hawksworth.
- John Lacy (1670-1746) and Ruth Fry.

The James Lacy / John Lacy generations were confirmed by another descendant but without dates. William married Mary Toothaker in 1728 so would presumably have been born between 1700 and 1710 but these dates don't fit with the James Lacy b. 1695, the only one I have found.

Talk about a tangled web! an anybody help me to unravel it?

Many thanks.
Angela

Have you looked on family search site

That’s where we would look

Just to confuse matters a bit more there is this earlier marriage:-

First name(s) Mary<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Last name Hawksworth<<<<<<<<<<<<
Name note -
Marriage year 1666
Marriage date 27 Feb 1666
Marriage place Droxford
Spouse's first name(s) John <<<<<<<<<
Spouse's last name Lacy<<<<<<<<<
Spouse's age -
County Hampshire
Country England
Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records

Kath. x

You say James Lacy (junior) was born 1744, and suggest parents William and Mary.

This is the only James Lacy I can see (on FS and Ancestry ) born 1740-50 in Bishops Waltham - actually this one's presumably born in 1739, but not baptised until 1740:


James Lacy
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: James Lacy
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 2 Jan 1740 (another FS transcription has the date as 12 Jan 1740 )
Event Place: Bishop's Waltham, Hampshire, England
Event Place (Original): Bishops Waltham, Hampshire, England
Gender: Male
Father's Name: William Lacy
Mother's Name: Mary



Presumably a sister:

Mary Lacy
England, Hampshire Parish Registers, 1538-1980
Name: Mary Lacy
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 20 Sep 1738
Event Place: Bishop's Waltham, England
Event Place (Original): Bishop's Waltham, England
Gender: Female
Father's Name: William Lacy
Mother's Name: Mary Lacy

and another:

Catharine Lacy
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Catharine Lacy
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 23 Sep 1747
Event Place: Bishop's Waltham, Hampshire, England
Event Place (Original): Bishops Waltham, Hampshire, England
Gender: Female
Father's Name: William Lacy
Mother's Name: Mary

William Lacey and Mary Toothaker had a child before marriage:

William Toothaker
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: William Toothaker
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 27 Aug 1727
Baptism Place: Bishops Waltham,Hampshire,England
Father: William Lacy
Mother: Mary Toothaker
FHL Film Number: 1042025

You say, "The James Lacy / John Lacy generations were confirmed by another descendant but without dates"

Can you explain, please?

I'm not seeing those marriages on FS or Ancestry.

How have they decided that James is the son of John?

Just in case the Toothaker marriage isn't the right one (although it is the only marriage showing up of a William Lacy and a Mary in Bishops Waltham) , there's this possibility:

William Lacy
England Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: William Lacy
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 4 Jul 1738
Event Place: Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
Event Place (Original): Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire, England
Gender: Male
Spouse's Name: Mary Darkin
Spouse's Gender: Female


Portsmouth is approx 14 miles from Bishops Waltham.

First name(s) James
Last name Lacy
Age 32
Birth year 1744
Licence year 1776
Licence date 05 Jun 1776
Residence Bishop's Waltham
Marital status Bachelor
Occupation Gent
Spouse's first name(s) Ann
Spouse's last name O'Neil
Spouse's age 28
Spouse's marital status Single
Spouse's residence Easton
Place Easton
County Hampshire

Residence at time of marriage is not necessarily place of birth

How can someone 'confirm' info if they don't have dates?