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Thanks you so much all of you I was aware of some of this and the newspaper article about Frederick but you’ve given me lots that fills some gaps.
My stepdad new nothing about the suicide at all. All quite sad really how spaced out they all ended up.????

SUICIDE OF A D; MORD MAN
SUICIDE OF A D; MORD MAN
Frederick John Bell, aged 31. coal porter, of 8 Bezinald-road, Deptford, cot his throat with a razor on Tuesday evening. Dr. Vernon. 55, Donglamstreet, was called, and pronounced lifc extinct. P.. 0. 194 Gordon, Coroner's 0011cer
10 November 1893 - Woolwich Gazette - London, London, England


SUICIDE IN MOTHER'S PRESENCE.
SUICIDE IN MOTHER'S PRESENCE.
man of splendid physique . the Dep-ford Mortuary Saturday for the of Coroner Woods' jury. The evidence jt showed that Frederick John Bell, who had lived 8. fi ¦Reginald road, had for some long time been a staunch t< but for fortnight to two days before 'liis
13 November 1893 - Sheffield Evening Telegraph - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England


KENT AND SURREY BUILDING
KENT AND SURREY BUILDING
whom much sympathy is felt. Alleged Suicide Deptposd.— anorter-past seven o’clock Tuesday evening, coal porter named Frederick John Bell, aged 31, 8, Eoginald-road, Deptford, was said have committed suicide in determined manner hy cutting his throat with
10 November 1893 - Kentish Mercury - London, London, England


Soc.al and District TAO
Soc.al and District TAO
Total 1 A DEPTFORD DRUNKARD'S SUIC: DE. Am, inqoest was held at the Brown Bear. Dept, fad, on Friday. on the body of Frederick John Bell, who had lived at I, Reginald-row. Deptford. Dammed had for some ion time been • staunch teetotaler. but tor &fortnight
17 November 1893 - Woolwich Gazette - London, London, England



A LONG bRIATILING BOUT
A LONG bRIATILING BOUT
a powerful man of splendid physique lay in Deptford mortnat7 tor the of °wooer Wood's jury. The endows showed that Frederick John Bell, who bad heed in }testi:told Road, had for 'one long time been • staunch teetotaler, but for • forbuglit before his
18 November 1893 - Richmond & Ripon Chronicle - Richmond, Yorkshire, Eng

1901

100, Watergate Street, St Nicholas Deptford, Greenwich, London & Kent
Walter Nottidge Head Married Male 38 1863 Cattle Drover Deptford, England
Maria Nottidge Wife Married Female 27 1874 - Deptford, England
Caroline Nottidge Daughter Single Female 6 1895 - Deptford, England
Walter Nottidge Son - Male 3 1898 - Deptford, England
Florence Nottidge Daughter - Female 2 1899 - Deptford, England
Lillian Nottidge Daughter - Female - - - Deptford, England

Marriages Dec 1913 (>99%)
Line Alfred Nottage Ampthill 3b 875
Nottage Caroline A Line Ampthill 3b 875


1939
38 Clophill Road, Maulden, Houghton Conquest, Ampthill R.D., Bedfordshire, England
Alfred Line 21 Jun 1893 Male Chimney Sweep Married 100 1
Caroline Amy Line 07 Jul 1894 Female Home Duties Married 100 2
Doris I Sharp (Line) 12 Jun 1918 Female Daily Maid Single 100 3
Leonard G Line 24 Jun 1924 Male Agricultural Labourer Single 100 4
1 closed record

First name(s) CAROLINE AMY
Last name LINE
Gender Female
Birth year 1895
Death quarter 2
Death year 1972
District Ampthill
County Bedfordshire
Volume 4A
Page 20


Name: Caroline Nottage
Gender: Female
Age: 7
Birth Date: 20 Jul 1895
Admission Date: 24 Nov 1902
School: Frankham Street School
Father: Walter Herbert Nottage
Notes: Frankham Street School (0341) opened in 1876. Originally named Regent Street School then renamed Frankham Street School. Became Tidemill Primary School in 1951. Closed or reorganised in 198-

Caroline Nottage
in the Dorset, England, Church of England Confirmations, 1850-1921
Name: Caroline Nottage
Birth Year: abt 1895
Age: 15
Confirmation Date: 1910


Name
Caroline Amy Nottage
Birth
Jul 1895
Death
18 May 1972
Parish: Poole

1911
Birth Place: Greenwich, London, England
Civil Parish: Poole
County/Island: Dorset
Country: England
Street Address: The Children's Home, West Street, Poole, Dorset
Caroline Nottage 15
Florence Nottage 12
Lilian Nottage 10

NOTTAGE, CAROLINE AMY BELL
GRO Reference: 1895 S Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 1075

Record set Kent Baptisms
First name(s) Caroline Amy
Last name Nottage
Baptism year 1895
Birth year 1895
County Kent
Country England
Place Deptford, St Paul
Mother's first name(s) Maria Phyllis
Father's first name(s) Walter Herbert
Birth date ? ? 1895
Baptism date 04 Aug 1895

Deaths Mar 1946 (>99%)
Nottage Walter H 41 Greenwich 1d 846

It strikes me as bizarre that Maria would name another son Walter when the first one was alive and kicking

Marriages Dec 1939 (>99%)
Harris Evelyn M Nottage Greenwich 1d 3199
Nottage Walter T H Harris Greenwich 1d 3199

Deaths Jun 1978 (>99%)
NOTTAGE EVELYN MAY 6MY1889 GREENWICH 12 1001

1939
20 Suffolk Grove, Surrey Quays, Southwark, Bermondsey, London, England
Evelyn M Nottage (Harris) 06 May 1889 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 264 1

Evelyn's birth name was Worrall/Worrell - she married William Harris in 1910

1911

Name: May Harris
Age in 1911: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1890
Relation to Head: Wife
Gender: Female
Birth Place: NOTTING HILL LONDON, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Bermondsey
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: 23 Old Road, Rotherhithe S E
Marital status: Married
Estimated Marriage Year: 1911
Registration District: St Olave (Bermondsey)
Registration District Number: 24
Sub-registration District: Rotherhithe
ED, institution, or vessel: 20
Piece: 1933
Household Members:
Name Age
William Harris 28
May Harris 21

Name: Evelyn May Worrell
Gender: Female
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 22 May 1889
Baptism Place: Ladbroke Grove St Martins Mission, Kensington and Chelsea, England
Father: James Worrell
Mother: Clara Worrell

Somewhat out of area, but.........................

Name: William A B Bell
Registration Date: Oct 1931
[Nov 1931]
[Dec 1931]
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration District: Scarborough
Inferred County: Yorkshire North Riding
Spouse: Sarah Gibson
Volume Number: 9d
Page Number: 858


Births Dec 1932 (>99%)
Bell Arthur E Gibson Scarbro' 9d 522

Deaths Mar 1958 (>99%)
BELL William A B 64 Lewisham 5d 9

No probs - but the age on the FMP transcription is wrong, anyway.

Name: Frederick Bell
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 30 Jun 1850
Marriage Place: Saint Leonards,Shoreditch,London,England
Spouse: Emma Binns

Frederick's father is Thomas Bell a Farmer
Frederick is a Bricklayer

Emma Binns father is William Binns a shoemaker

Witnesses James Macey and Sarah Reed.

Name: Frederick Bell
Gender: Male
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 30 Jun 1850
Marriage Place: St Leonard, Shoreditch, Hackney, England
Father: Thomas Bell
Spouse: Emma Binns
Register Type: Parish Register

sorry misinturpreted, thought you were refering to fred jnr :-)

And Ancestry
Name: Frederick John Bell
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Registration Year: 1893
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 31
Registration District: Greenwich
Inferred County: London
Volume: 1d
Page: 741


Name: Frederick John Bell
Register Type: Burial
Death Date: abt 1893
Burial or Cremation Date: 18 Nov 1893
Burial or Cremation Place: Lewisham, London, England

From the GRO website

BELL, FREDERICK JOHN 31
GRO Reference: 1893 D Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 741

If you look at the image on FMP, you'll see that they've got the age wrong on their transcription

sorry
not that one
FREDERICK JOHN
Last name BELL
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1852
Age 41
Death quarter 4
Death year 1893
District Greenwich

Deaths Dec 1893 (>99%)
Bell Frederick John 31 Greenwich 1d 741

a maybe

Name: Frederick Bell
Discharge Age: 18
Record Type: Discharge - well
Birth Date: abt 1889
Discharge or Death Date: 9 Dec 1907
Discharge or Death Place: Greenwich, London, London, England
Discharge or Death Poor Law Union: Greenwich

Name: Frederick Bell
Discharge Age: 19
Record Type: Discharge --- own request
Birth Date: abt 1889
Discharge or Death Date: 4 Apr 1908
Discharge or Death Place: Greenwich, London, London, England
Discharge or Death Poor Law Union: Greenwich

Name: Frederick Bell
Admission Age: 19
Record Type: Admission
Birth Date: 1889
Admission Date: 19 Mar 1908
Admission Place: Greenwich, London, London, England
Admission Poor Law Union: Greenwich

Name: Walt H Nottage
Gender: Male
Age: 11
Birth Date: 11 Aug 1897
Admission Date: 31 Jan 1909
School: Lucas Street School
Mother: Maria Nottage
Notes: Lucas Street School (0471) opened in 1879. Later renamed Gainsford School, then Lucas Vale School in 1938

1911

Name: Walter Nottage
Age in 1911: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1898
Relation to Head: Inmate
Gender: Male
Civil Parish: Islington
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street Address: Highbury Truant School (L.C.C), Highbury Grove, Islington
Occupation: Scholar
Registration District: Islington
Registration District Number: 10
Sub-registration District: Highbury

Maria Nottage
in the London, England, Poor Law Hospital Admissions and Discharges, 1842-1918

Name: Maria Nottage
Admission Age: 42
Record Type: Admission
Birth Date: 1865
Admission Date: 25 Oct 1907
Admission Place: Greenwich, London, London, England
Admission Poor Law Union: Greenwich

Name: Maria Nottage
Discharge Age: 40
Record Type: Discharge
Birth Date: abt 1867
Discharge or Death Date: 5 Nov 1907
Discharge or Death Place: Greenwich, London, London, England
Discharge or Death Poor Law Union: Greenwich

Name: Florence May Nottage
Electoral Date: 1919
Street Address: 19 Beckenhnm
Ward or Division/Constituency: Chelsea and Deptford
County or Borough: London, England