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Rose
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9 Aug 2020 10:06 |
Father Edward Marks Mother Ann Clark
Last known address on 1871 census 6 Hobbs Terrace, Blue Anchor Yard,Camberwell age 13
Not listed on BMD as Harriet so I am presuming there is a name change
Can someone help me please
Thank you Rose
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ErikaH
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9 Aug 2020 10:17 |
Why do you ‘presume there is a name change’? Your post isn’t clear as to what you’re looking for. Please clarify
IF.......as I suspect - you mean there isn’t a birth registration on freebmd I’m sure you know that until 1875 there were no penalties for NOT registering
Have you looked at the GRO site where you can input MMN?
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KathleenBell
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9 Aug 2020 10:32 |
I suspect that her birth just wasn't registered as I can't find a registration for her brother John either.
Nothing for her on the GRO site.
I can't find her after 1871 either.
Kath. x
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ErikaH
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9 Aug 2020 11:06 |
Couldn't help noticing on that 1871 census the father-in-law's details............ Occupation: Seaman, unemployed.................what did they expect him to be doing - he was said to be 102 years old!!!!!
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Mary
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9 Aug 2020 11:15 |
It also says Edward is a farm labourer on 1871 but in 1861 and 81/91/1901 he is a Carpenter.
Maryb
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greyghost
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9 Aug 2020 11:47 |
??? Harriet would have only been 16 -
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Sep 1874 (>99%) Bruning Elizabeth Pancras 1b 7 MARKS Harriet Pancras 1b 7 <<<<<<<<<<< Trotman Frederick Claude Pancras 1b 7 Trotman William Howard Pancras 1b 7 <<<<<<<<<
Can see a Frederick and Eluizabeth Trotman 1881 with young children
---------------------------------- Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
TROTMAN, ARTHUR HOWARD MARKS GRO Reference: 1875 J Quarter in PANCRAS Volume 01B Page 108
TROTMAN, FLORENCE HARRIETT LOUISA MARKS GRO Reference: 1876 S Quarter in PANCRAS Volume 01B Page 88
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ErikaH
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9 Aug 2020 11:50 |
Name: Harriet Marks....full age Gender: Female Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 21 Aug 1874 Marriage Place: St Matthew, St Pancras, Camden, England Father: Alfred Marks - Architect Spouse: William Howard Trotman Register Type: Parish Register
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greyghost
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9 Aug 2020 11:51 |
That family in 1881 but Harriet shown older than "yours" 1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census 228, Euston Road, St Pancras, London & Middlesex, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Howard Trotman Head Married Male 31 1850 Costume Maker Employing 12 Hands Notting Hill, Middlesex, England Harriet Trotman Wife Married Female 31 1850 - Notting Hill, Middlesex, England Arthur H Trotman Son Single Male 6 1875 Scholar St Pancras, Middlesex, England Percy H Trotman Son Single Male 0 1881 - St Pancras, Middlesex, England Ellen Dillon Servant Single Female 30 1851 General Servant Domestic Ireland Arthur H Trotman's Census Details Details taken from the original census record.
Percy is 7 months old
EDIT - so not yours as shown by ErikaH's post above
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greyghost
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9 Aug 2020 12:08 |
Not this one either - Father Alfred a Baker from original.
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Dec 1877 (>99%)
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Dec 1877 (>99%) BROWN Frederick Giles Wandsworth 1d 886 FITT Clara Anne Wandsworth 1d 886 Marks Harriet Ann Wandsworth 1d 886 <<<<<<<<<< PETTIT Henry David Wandsworth 1d 886 <<<<<<<<<<
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ArgyllGran
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9 Aug 2020 12:44 |
??? Age varies from one record to the next . Brixton was in Lambeth reg district -
Harriett Marks in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932 Name: Harriett Marks Gender: Female Marriage Age: 23 Record Type: Marriage Birth Date: abt 1860 Marriage Date: 6 May 1883 Marriage Place: St Barnabas, Hornsey Road, Islington, England Father: Edward Marks, labourer <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Spouse: Charles Hutt Register Type: Parish Register
Marriages Jun 1883 (>99%) HUTT Charles Islington 1b 302 MARKS Harriett Islington 1b 302
Harriet Hutt in the 1891 England Census Name: Harriet Hutt Gender: Female Age: 32 Relationship: Wife Birth Year: 1859 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Spouse: Charles Hutt Child: Rebecca Noble Birth Place: Lambeth, London, England <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Civil Parish: Camberwell Ecclesiastical parish: St Chrysostom Residence Place: Peckham, Camberwell, London, England Registration district: Camberwell Sub registration district: Peckham ED, Institution or Vessel: 32 Neighbors: Piece: 479 Folio: 104 Household Members: Name Age Charles Hutt 33 Harriet Hutt 32 John Noble 23 - lodger Rebecca Noble 22 - lodger's wife Minnie Dennett 23 - boarder Rebecca Noble 10 Weeks - daughter [of lodger]
Address in 1891: 3 Alfred Place, Blue Anchor Lane.
Harriett Hutt in the 1901 England Census Name: Harriett Hutt Age: 40 Estimated birth year: abt 1861 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Spouse: Charles Hutt Birth Place: Brixton, London, England Civil Parish: Camberwell Ecclesiastical parish: St Chrysostom County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 6 Blue Anchor Lane Registration district: Camberwell Sub-registration district: Peckham ED, institution, or vessel: 32 Neighbors: Piece: 509 Folio: 53 Page Number: 24 Household schedule number: 146 Household Members: Name Age Charles Hutt 44 Harriett Hutt 40
Harriet Hutt in the 1911 England Census Name: Harriet Hutt Age in 1911: 55 Estimated birth year: abt 1856 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Birth Place: Briston, Surrey, England Civil Parish: Camberwell County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 20 Frankton Rd, Peckham S E Marital status: Married Estimated Marriage Year: 1882 Occupation: Assisting Registration district: Camberwell Registration District Number: 27 Sub-registration district: Peckham North ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Piece: 2559 Household Members: Name Age Charles Hutt 54 Harriet Hutt 55 John White 42 - boarder
Harriet Hutt in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Harriet Hutt Death Age: 82 Birth Date: abt 1859 Registration Date: Jul 1941 [Aug 1941] [Sep 1941] Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration district: Camberwell Inferred County: London Volume: 1d Page: 620
Charles Hutt in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Charles Hutt Death Age: 78 Birth Date: abt 1858 Registration Date: Oct 1936 [Nov 1936] [Dec 1936] Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district: Camberwell Inferred County: London Volume: 1d Page: 809
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Mary
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9 Aug 2020 13:23 |
That is her above
Rebecca Marks 1869 married John Richard Noble 22/12/1889 her dad was Edward henry marks a carpenter.
Rebecca and John Noble are lodgers with her sister Harriett Hutt in 1891
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malyon
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9 Aug 2020 13:24 |
Edward Junr. Marks England Marriages, 1538–1973 Name: Edward Junr. Marks Event Type: Marriage Notice Event Date: 20 Apr 1856 Event Place: St Mary the Less, Lambeth, Surrey, England, United Kingdom Event Place (Original): St. Mary, Lambeth, Surrey, England Gender: Male Spouse's Name: Ann Clark Spouse's Gender: Female
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LondonBelle
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9 Aug 2020 16:37 |
This is Harriet in the 1939 Register......her surname has been mistranscribed on FMP but image states 'Hutt', she's still at the same address as in 1911.
20 Frankton Road, Peckham, Southwark, Camberwell, London, England
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number Harriet Hult 05 May 1859 Female Incapacitated Widowed 93 1
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Rose
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10 Aug 2020 11:33 |
ErikaH Sorry but I did not know there were no penalties for not registering a birth. I have made a note, just hope I remember in future!
ArgyllGran, Youve done it again, youve found my Harriet. Thank you so much.
Thank you ladies you have been very helpful
Rose
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ArgyllGran
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10 Aug 2020 13:10 |
Can't see her in 1881, however.
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