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Denise
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30 Jul 2020 17:21 |
Thank you for all your help and information I shall look at all your suggestions. Sorry to cause confusion by posting on two threads.
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ArgyllGran
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30 Jul 2020 08:39 |
Duplicate thread , also with answers:
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/living_relatives/thread/1385975
Denise -
You should have only one thread per topic/family, , to save people doing the research twice and unnecessarily.
But please note - the answers on your two threads aren't completely identical, so don't delete either of them now ,or you'll lose info.
For example, I said on the other thread that I believe that William's birthplace being given as Southwark in 1901 is because the enumerator mis-heard him saying "Suffolk" and thought he said "Southwark".
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30 Jul 2020 00:44 |
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: STEVENSON, TOM LAWRENCE GRO Reference: 1880 S Quarter in WOOLWICH Volume 01D Page 1149
STEVENSON, MARY ANN LAWRENCE LAWRENCE GRO Reference: 1878 J Quarter in HUNGERFORD Volume 02C Page 249
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First name(s) FREDERICK Last name STEPHENSON Marriage quarter 2 Marriage year 1873 Registration month - MarriageFinder ™ FREDERICK STEPHENSON married one of these people Elizabeth Mary Lawrence District Hungerford District number - County Berkshire Country England Volume 2C Volume as transcribed 2C Page number 448 Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Civil Marriage & Divorce Collections from Great Britain, England
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30 Jul 2020 00:32 |
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census 21, Slade Cott, Plumstead, Woolwich, London & Kent, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Frederick Stevenson Head Married Male 32 1849 Brickmaker Lyneham, Wiltshire, England Mary Stevenson Wife Married Female 28 1853 - Chippenham, Wiltshire, England Jessie Stevenson Daughter Single Female 8 1873 - Wroughton, Wiltshire, England Frances Stevenson Daughter Single Female 6 1875 - Wroughton, Wiltshire, England Mary A Stevenson Daughter Single Female 1 1880 - Inkpen, Berkshire, England Tom Stevenson Son Single Male 0 1881 - Plumstead, Kent, England
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greyghost
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30 Jul 2020 00:25 |
the 1911 census transcription has Jessie as born Wighton, Wilts, but the image is a bit unclear. I think it may well be this baptism - (note Father's name Frederick and her first child William Frederick
Transcripts show place as Wroghton or Wroughton, Chippenham and residence as Swindon
Wiltshire Baptisms Index 1530-1917 (transcript only)
First name(s) Jessie Last name Stevenson Birth year 1874 Birth date 09 Jan 1874 Baptism year 1874 Baptism date 24 May 1874 Residence Wroughton Nr Swinden Place Chippenham, St Andrew County Wiltshire Country England Father's first name(s) Frederick Father's last name Stevenson Father's occupation Brickmaker Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth Mary Record type Parish Registers Record set Wiltshire Baptisms Index 1530-1917 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Another result has her DOB as 5th January and yet another as 19 January 1873
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30 Jul 2020 00:13 |
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Hampshire, Portsmouth Baptisms
First name(s) Susanna Last name Bush Birth year - Baptism year 1809 Baptism date 30 Mar 1809 Baptism place Portsmouth, St John's Cathedral Dedication St John the Evangelist Denomination Roman Catholic Father's first name(s) Gulielmi - Latin for William Mother's first name(s) Briget Mother's maiden name Redd - image says Reed County Hampshire Country England Register type Baptisms Register year range 1794-1830 Archive reference CHU 71/1A/1 Archive Portsmouth History Centre Record set Hampshire, Portsmouth Baptisms
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29 Jul 2020 23:59 |
Suffolk Marriage Index - transcript only, no image
First name(s) Charles Last name Todd Marriage year 1833 Marriage date 11 Nov 1833 Marriage place Ilketshall St Andrew Spouse's first name(s) Susanna Spouse's last name Bush County Suffolk Country England Record set Suffolk Marriage Index Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Marriages Collections from England, Great Britain Suffolk Family History Society
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Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: TODD, SARAH BUSH GRO Reference: 1851 J Quarter in WANGFORD Volume 13 Page 582
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greyghost
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29 Jul 2020 23:53 |
Robert with his parents -
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census Great Common, Ilketshall St Andrew, Wangford, Suffolk, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Charles Todd Head Married Male 49 1812 Agricultural Labourer Ilketshaw St Andrew England Susan Todd Wife Married Female 50 1811 Agricultural Labourers Wife Portsmouth, Hampshire Robert Todd Son Unmarried Male 21 1840 Agricultural Labourer Ilketshall St Andrew, Suffolk, England Maria Todd Daughter Unmarried Female 18 1843 Agricultural Labourers Daughter Ilketshall St Andrew, Suffolk, England Anna Todd Daughter Unmarried Female 14 1847 Agricultural Labourers Daughter Ilketshall St Andrew, Suffolk, England Sarah Todd Daughter - Female 10 1851 Scholar Ilketshall St Andrew, Suffolk, England Robert Char Todd Grandson - Male 3 1858 - Ilketshall St Andrew, Suffolk, England
Original shows Susan from Portsmouth - (transcribed as Charles from Portsmouth)
and 1841 - 1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census St Andrew Ilketshall, Wangford, Suffolk, England
Charles Todd Male 25 1816 Suffolk, England Ag. Lab Susan Todd Female 30 1811 Suffolk, England Elizabeth Bush Female 7 1834 Suffolk, England Mary Todd Female 5 1836 Suffolk, England Hariot Todd Female 2 1839 Suffolk, England Robert Todd Male 1 1840 Suffolk, England
As ages on 1841 census were supposed to be rounded down to nearest 5 for anyone aged over 15, this would make Charles born 1812-1816 and Susan/nah 1807-1811
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29 Jul 2020 23:41 |
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Turnpike Road, St Lawrence Ilketshall, Wangford, Suffolk, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Robert Todd Head Married Male 50 1841 Ag Labourer Suffolk, England Rachael Todd Wife Married Female 44 1847 - Ditchingham, Norfolk, England William Todd Son Single Male 20 1871 Ag Labourer Suffolk, England John Todd Son Single Male 16 1875 Ag Labourer Suffolk, England Susan Todd Daughter - Female 14 1877 - Suffolk, England Robert Todd Son - Male 13 1878 - Suffolk, England Anna Todd Daughter - Female 7 1884 Scholar Suffolk, England James Todd Son - Male 5 1886 Scholar Suffolk, England Rachael Todd Daughter - Female 3 1888 - Suffolk, England
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29 Jul 2020 23:31 |
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census By the Green, St Lawrence Ilketshall, Wangford, Suffolk, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Robert Todd Head Married Male 41 1840 Ag Labourer St Andrews Suffolk, England Rachael Todd Wife Married Female 38 1843 - Ditchingham, Norfolk, England Charles Todd Son Single Male 15 1866 Farm Servant (Ag Lab) Suffolk, England Maria E Todd Daughter Single Female 13 1868 Scholar Suffolk, England William Todd Son Single Male 11 1870 Scholar Suffolk, England George Todd Son Single Male 8 1873 Scholar Suffolk, England John Todd Son Single Male 6 1875 Scholar Suffolk, England Susannah Todd Daughter Single Female 4 1877 Scholar Wick St Lawrence, Suffolk, England Robert Todd Son Single Male 2 1879 - Wick St Lawrence, Suffolk, England Harriett Todd Daughter Single Female 0 1881 - Wick St Lawrence, Suffolk, England
children - Charles, Maria, William, George and John born St Andrews and Susannah, Robert and Harriet born St Lawrence , Ilketshall. Close to Bungay
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greyghost
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29 Jul 2020 23:25 |
This birth registration in Wangford RD would cover Bungay -
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: TODD, WILLIAM DAVY GRO Reference: 1871 M Quarter in WANGFORD Volume 04A Page 743
which would make this marriage a possibility for his parents
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Dec 1865 (>99%)
Baldry Samuel Wangford 4a 1562 Davey Rachel Wangford 4a 1562 <<<<<<<<<<< Todd Robert Wangford 4a 1562 <<<<<<<<<<< Waters Charlotte Wangford 4a 1562
do you have any evidence that his Father was Robert (as per your OP)
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greyghost
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29 Jul 2020 23:24 |
Whilst the 1911 census says that William Todd came from Bungay in Suffolk, the 1901 census has him as born Southwark, London.
A copy of his marriage certificate would give - if he knew him - his Father's name and occupation.
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29 Jul 2020 22:56 |
Births from the free site https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp You will need to register but free to use.
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: TODD, HUGH ERNEST STEVENSON GRO Reference: 1906 M Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 943
TODD, LAWRENCE TOM GEORGE STEVENSON GRO Reference: 1903 S Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 961
TODD, EDWARD ROBERTS STEVENSON GRO Reference: 1901 J Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 870
TODD, RUTH MARIE STEVENSON GRO Reference: 1899 D Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 891 TODD, WILLIAM FREDERICK STEVENS GRO Reference: 1897 J Quarter in GREENWICH Volume 01D Page 1032
not seeing the birth of a Walter (1901 census - could a mistake have happened recording him and it's William as he doesn't appear on the 1901)
Deaths -
Name: Age at Death (in years): TODD, RUTH MARIE 0 GRO Reference: 1900 M Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 727
TODD, EDWARD ROBERTS 2 GRO Reference: 1903 J Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 462
Possible Birth post 1911 census -
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: TODD, JESSIE JOAN STEVENSON STEVENSON GRO Reference: 1913 S Quarter in CAMBERWELL Volume 01D Page 1676
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greyghost
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29 Jul 2020 22:41 |
1911 Census For England & Wales 7 Acorn Buildings Acorn Place Peckham London S E, Camberwell, London & Surrey, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Todd Head Married Male 39 1872 Gas Company Labourer Bungay Suffolk Jessie Todd Wife Married Female 36 1875 - Wighton Wilts William Frederick Todd Son - Male 13 1898 School New Cross London Lawrence Tom George Todd Son - Male 7 1904 - Camberwell London Hugh Earnest Todd Son - Male 5 1906 - Camberwell London
The 1911 census says on the original that they had been married for 16 years and had 5 children. 3 of those children were still alive but 2 had died
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malyon
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29 Jul 2020 22:17 |
Marriages Sep 1895 (>99%) Stevenson Jessie Camberwell 1d 1577 Scan available - click to view Todd William Camberwell 1d 1577 Scan available - click to view
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malyon
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29 Jul 2020 22:14 |
William Todd England and Wales Census, 1901 Name: William Todd Event Type: Census Event Date: 31 Mar 1901 Event Place: City of London, Middlesex, England, United Kingdom County: London, Middlesex Civil Parish: Camberwell Ecclesiastical Parish: St Mark Sub-District: Peckham Registration District: Camberwell Gender: Male Age: 29 Occupation: GENERAL LABOURER Relationship to Head of Household: Head Birth Year (Estimated): 1872 Birthplace: Southwark, London Schedule Type: 245 Page Number: 38 Household Role Sex Age Birthplace William Todd Head Male 29 Southwark, London Jessie Todd Wife Female 27 Wiltshire Walter Todd Son Male 4 New Cross, London Edward Todd Son Male 0 Peckham, London
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malyon
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29 Jul 2020 22:07 |
Hugh Earnest Todd England and Wales Census, 1911 Name: Hugh Earnest Todd Event Type: Census Event Date: 1911 Event Place: Camberwell, Southwark, London, England, United Kingdom County: London Parish: Camberwell Sub-District: Peckham North Sub-District Number: 5 District Number: 27 Enumeration District: 19 Registration District: Camberwell Gender: Male Age: 5 Number in Family: 4 Birth Year (Estimated): 1906 Birthplace: Camberwell London, London Relationship to Head of Household: Son Schedule Type: 7 Page Number: 1 Registration Number: RG14 Piece/Folio: 13 Affiliate Record Identifier: GBC/1911/RG14/02562/0013/5 Household Role Sex Age Birthplace William Todd Head Male 39 Bungay, Suffolk Jessie Todd Wife Female 36 Wighton, Wiltshire William Frederick Todd Son Male 13 New Cross London, London Lawrence Tom George Todd Son Male 7 Camberwell London, London Hugh Earnest Todd Son Male 5 Camberwell London, London Images Available To view these images do one of the following: At search.findmypast.co.uk. By clicking here you will be leaving FamilySearch.org (fees and other terms may apply). Record Collection:
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malyon
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29 Jul 2020 21:57 |
Births Sep 1903 (>99%) Todd Lawrence Tom G Camberwell 1d 961
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malyon
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29 Jul 2020 21:55 |
have you any dates when they ere born
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Denise
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29 Jul 2020 21:32 |
I am trying to trace my family with the name Todd. Unfortunately my father lost contact with his father following his parents divorce. I know my grandfather was Lawrence Tom George Todd and he had two brothers Hugh Ernest and William Frederick Todd. I believe my great grandfather was William Todd and my great great grandfather was Robert Todd and they came from Suffolk. Any information would be appreciated. Thank you
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