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Record Transcription:
England & Wales Births 1837-2006

from the UK General Register Office:
Order Certificate

First name(s) JANE ELIZABETH
Last name THOMPSON
Birth year 1867
Birth quarter 3
Registration month -
Mother's maiden name Thompson
District Durham
County Durham
Country England
Volume 10A
Page 327
Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Births
Collections from Great Britain, England

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Elizabeth Hopper's life in 1939
52 Uninhabited Brandon Village Unocupied, Brandon and Byshottles U.D., Durham, England

Elizabeth Jane Hopper
Census Record

Durham, England
Year of death: 1945
Hopper household
(7 people)
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Elizabeth Hopper 10 Jul 1867 Female Unpaid Household Duties Widowed 56 1
Joseph Hopper 28 Feb 1911 Male Power Rammer Driver Heavy Worker Single 56 2
Elizabeth Fox (Hopper) 24 Jun 1916 Female Shorthand Typist Single 56 3

??? No Margaret with this family, so maybe not the right one:

Elizabeth Thompson
in the 1841 England Census
Name: Elizabeth Thompson
Age: 8
Estimated birth year: abt 1833
Gender: Female
Where born: Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: St John
Hundred: Castle (West Division)
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
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Registration district: Newcastle upon Tyne
Sub-registration district: Westgate
Neighbors:
Piece: 824
Book: 8
Folio: 5
Page Number: 4
Household Members:
Name Age
William Thompson 36
Elizabeth Thompson 35
William Thomas Thompson 10
Elizabeth Thompson 8
Ann Thompson 5
Jane Thompson 3
Mary Thompson 1


THOMPSON, JANE mms MCGILL
GRO Reference: 1837 D Quarter in NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE UNION Volume 25 Page 265

THOMPSON, MARY mms MCGILL
GRO Reference: 1840 J Quarter in NEWCASTLE UPON TYNE UNION Volume 25 Page 375


Parents' marriage:

William Thompson
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: William Thompson
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 7 Feb 1826
Marriage Place: Newcastle-Upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England
Spouse: Elisabeth Mcgill
FHL Film Number: 847927
Reference ID: p 242 no 724

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Margaret Thompson
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Margaret Thompson
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 22 Nov 1835
Event Place: Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original): Newcastle-Upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England
Gender: Female
Father's Name: William Thompson
Mother's Name: Elizabeth



Elizabeth Thompson
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Elizabeth Thompson
Event Type: Christening
Event Date: 21 Jul 1833
Event Place: Newcastle upon Tyne, Northumberland, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original): Newcastle-Upon-Tyne, Northumberland, England
Gender: Female
Father's Name: William Thompson
Mother's Name: Elizabeth

The baptism (14 Aug 1867) posted by safc at 18:48 looks correct, as it's in St Oswalds parish, Durham, which is her birthplace in the 1881 census already posted.

[Assuming, of course. that it's the right 1881 census. ]

So she was born illegitimately, as Jane Elizabeth, with mother Margaret, and no father named.

THOMPSON, JANE ELIZABETH -
GRO Reference: 1867 S Quarter in DURHAM Volume 10A Page 327


Jane E Thompson
in the 1871 England Census
Name: Jane E Thompson
Age: 3
Estimated birth year: 1868
Relation: Daughter
Gender: Female
Where born: Durham England
Civil Parish: All Saints
Ecclesiastical parish: St Ann
Town: Newcastle upon Tyne
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Registration district: Newcastle Upon Tyne
Sub-registration district: All Saints
ED, institution, or vessel: 32
Household schedule number: 80
Piece: 5104
Folio: 45
Page Number: 13
Household Members:
Name Age
Margaret Thompson 36 - Newcastle
Jane E Thompson 3


Then changed to calling herself Elizabeth by 1881, Elizabeth at marriage, Jane Elizabeth in 1891 (posted by safc), Elizabeth J in 1901 and 1911 (posted by Malyon).

Her mother was born in Newcastle, which is also the birthplace of her (Margaret's) sister Elizabeth who married William John Herbert.

Record Transcription:
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census

51, Brandon Village, Brandon and Byshottles, Durham, Durham, England

Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John G Hopper Head Married Male 33 1868 Stonemason (Estate) Durham, Durham, England
Elizabeth J Hopper Wife Married Female 33 1868 - Durham, Durham, England
Margaret Hopper Daughter - Female 11 1890 - Durham, Durham, England
Mary E Hopper Daughter - Female 9 1892 - Durham, England
William T Hopper Son - Male 2 1899 - Durham, England

Record Transcription:
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Brandon Village, Brandon and Byshottles, Durham, Durham, England

Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John F Hopper Head Married Male 23 1868 Stone Mason Durham
Jane E Hopper Wife Married Female 25 1866 - Durham
Margaret Hopper Daughter - Female 1 1890 - Durham


HOPPER, MARGARET THOMPSON
GRO Reference: 1889 S Quarter in DURHAM Volume 10A Page 345

On all censuses she gives her place of birth as Durham CITY - not anywhere else in the County

census 1901

Records Images Family Tree Genealogies Catalog Books WikiMargaret Hopper
England and Wales Census, 1901

Name:
Margaret Hopper
Event Type:
Census
Event Date:
31 Mar 1901
Event Place:
Brandon, Durham, England, United Kingdom
County:
Durham
Civil Parish:
Brandon And Byshottles
Ecclesiastical Parish:
St John The Evangelist & Brandon
Sub-District:
St Oswald
Registration District:
Durham
Gender:
Female
Age:
11
Relationship to Head of Household:
Daughter
Birth Year (Estimated):
1890
Birthplace:
City, Durham
Schedule Type:
15
Page Number:
3
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Margaret Hopper Daughter Female 11 City, Durham
Mary E Hopper Daughter Female 9 Brandon Vill, Durham
William T Hopper Son Male 2 Brandon Vill, Durham

Elizabeth Jane Hopper
England and Wales Census, 1911
Name:
Elizabeth Jane Hopper
Event Type:
Census
Event Date:
1911
Event Place:
Brandon, Durham, England, United Kingdom
County:
Durham
Parish:
Brandon And Byshottles
Sub-District:
Brandon
Sub-District Number:
1
District Number:
551
Enumeration District:
11
Registration District:
Durham
Gender:
Female
Age:
43
Number in Family:
7
Birth Year (Estimated):
1868
Birthplace:
City Of, Durham
Relationship to Head of Household:
Wife
Schedule Type:
13
Page Number:
1
Registration Number:
RG14
Piece/Folio:
25
Affiliate Record Identifier:
GBC/1911/RG14/29933/0025/2
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
John Gray Hopper Head Male 43 City Of, Durham
Elizabeth Jane Hopper Wife Female 43 City Of, Durham
Margaret Hopper Daughter Female 21 City Of, Durham
William Thompson Hopper Son Male 12 Brandon Village
Elsie Hopper Daughter Female 9 Brandon Village
Mary Hopper Daughter Female 9 Brandon Village
Joseph Hopper Son Male 0 Brandon Village

eliz J Hopper
England and Wales Census, 1901Name:
Eliz J Hopper
Event Type:
Census
Event Date:
31 Mar 1901
Event Place:
Brandon, Durham, England, United Kingdom
County:
Durham
Civil Parish:
Brandon And Byshottles
Ecclesiastical Parish:
St John The Evangelist & Brandon
Sub-District:
St Oswald
Registration District:
Durham
Gender:
Female
Age:
33
Relationship to Head of Household:
Wife
Birth Year (Estimated):
1868
Birthplace:
City, Durham
Schedule Type:
15
Page Number:
2
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
John G Hopper Head Male 33 City, Durham
Eliz J Hopper Wife Female 33 City, Durham

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Baptism entry While we have made all efforts to correctly record the information in the original document there may be different interpretations of the written words. If you have access to the original document and believe we have made a mistake you are encouraged to report this to us. Report an Error in this Data Field
(only fields with a value are shown) Value
County Durham
Place (Links to more information) Durham
Church name (Links to more information) St Oswald
Register type (Links to more information) Bishop's Transcripts
Baptism date 14 Aug 1867
Person forename Jane Elizabeth
Person sex F
Mother forename Margaret
Mother surname THOMPSON
Person abode St Cuthbert Cottage
Notes Illegitimate.Fathers Name not recorded
Transcribed by Linda Brown
File line number 1323

Elizabeth Jane Thompson
England and Wales Census, 1871
Elizabeth Jane Thompson
Event Type:
Census
Event Date:
1871
Event Place:
Hartlepool, Durham, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original):
Hartlepool, Durham, England
Sub-District:
Hartlepool
Enumeration District:
20
Gender:
Female
Age:
3
Marital Status:
Unknown
Birth Year (Estimated):
1868
Birthplace:
Hartlepool, Durham
Relationship to Head of Household:
Daughter
Relationship to Head of Household (Original):
Daughter
Affiliate Image Identifier:
GBC/1871/4917/0039
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Jonathan Thompson Head Male 42 Sedgefield, Durham
Jane Thompson Wife Female 40 Shields, Northumberland
Mary Ann Thompson Daughter Female 17 Hartlepool, Durham
Elizabeth Jane Thompson Daughter Female 3 Hartlepool, Durham

Elizabeth Jane Thompson
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name:
Elizabeth Jane Thompson
Event Type:
Christening
Event Date:
22 Nov 1868
Event Place:
Stranton, Durham, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original):
Stranton, Durham, England
Gender:
Female
Father's Name:
Jonathan
Mother's Name:
Jane

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Elizabeth Thompson
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Elizabeth Thompson
Age: 13
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Relationship to Head: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: St Oswald, Durham, England
Civil Parish: Elvet
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address: St Cuthberts Cottage
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation: Scholar
Registration district: Durham
ED, institution, or vessel: 24
Neighbors:
Piece: 4955
Folio: 56
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
William John Herbert 48
Elizabeth Herbert 48
Sarah A. Herbert 16
James Herbert 14
Elizabeth Herbert 10
Elizabeth Thompson 13


The Herberts' marriage:

William John Herbert
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: William John Herbert
Registration Year: 1861
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Durham
Inferred County: Durham
Volume: 10a
Page: 306
Records on Page:
Name
William John Herbert
Elizabeth Thompson


and before marriage:

Elizabeth Thompson
in the 1861 England Census
Name: Elizabeth Thompson
Age: 30
Estimated birth year: 1831
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Newcastle, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Elvet
Ecclesiastical parish: Elvet
County/Island: Durham
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
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Registration district: Durham
Sub-registration district: St Oswald
ED, institution, or vessel: 11b
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 4
Piece: 3738
Folio: 4
Page Number: 1
Household Members:
Name Age
William J Herbert 28
William Herbert 8
John G Herbert 3
Elizabeth Thompson 30


Elizabeth Thompson
in the 1851 England Census
Name: Elizabeth Thompson
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1834
Relation: Servant
Gender: Female
Where born: Newcastle, Northumberland, England
Civil Parish: Wallsend
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Northumberland
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Disability:
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Registration district: Tynemouth
Sub-registration district: Wallsend
ED, institution, or vessel: 1a
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 91
Piece: 2409
Folio: 15
Page Number: 23
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Hann 46
Elizabeth Hann 47
Robert Hann 16
James Selkirk 14
Elizabeth Thompson 17

Trying to find out if Elizabeth (Mrs Herbert) had a brother who would have been Elizabeth Jane 1868's father - but no luck.

You need the marriage cert.

If she knew her father, his name will be on her marriage cert

Presumably, you’ve looked for her birth on the GRO site and not found a record?

I am looking for ancestors of the above who was married to John Gray Hopper in1888,born in Durham city 1868 died Brandon village Durham 1945
Thank you
Pauline