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20 Jun 2020 10:41 |
The 1931 burial record for Catherine Douglas in NZ says:
Catherine Douglas, died Hampden 24th June 1931 aged 80. Also Archibald Douglas, died Hampden 17th June 1886 aged 38 Also Jessie Aitchison, mother, died Hampden 22 June 1906 aged 67.
Catherine Douglas in the New Zealand, Cemetery Records, 1800-2007 Name: Catherine Douglas Death Age: 80 Birth Date: abt 1851 Death Date: 24 Jun 1931 Death Place: Hampden Burial Place: Hampden, Otago Cemetery : Hampden
Your Catherine's mother was Mary Gripton, not Jessie Aitchison.
GREENSILL, CATHERINE ANNE mms GRIPTON GRO Reference: 1851 D Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 17 Page 337
Catherine Ann Greensill in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: Catherine Ann Greensill Gender: Female Baptism Date: 5 Oct 1851 Baptism Place: St. Mary, Bilston, Stafford, England Father: John Greensill Mother: Mary
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20 Jun 2020 10:27 |
Her daughter also went to New Zealand.
DOUGLAS, KATHERINE OLIVE mms GREENSILL GRO Reference: 1881 J Quarter in WOLVERHAMPTON Volume 06B Page 623
Katherine Olive Douglas in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915 Name: Katherine Olive Douglas Registration Year: 1901 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration district: Walsall Inferred County: Staffordshire Volume: 6b Page: 784 Records on Page: Name Katherine Olive Douglas Winter Harris
Katherine Olive Harris in the 1911 England Census Name: Katherine Olive Harris Age in 1911: 31 Estimated birth year: abt 1880 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Birth Place: Wolverhampton, Staffordshire Civil Parish: Walsall County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: 35 King St, Walsall Marital status: Married Estimated Marriage Year: 1901 Registration district: Walsall Registration District Number: 370 Sub-registration district: Walsall ED, institution, or vessel: 22 Piece: 17179 Household Members: Name Age Winter Harris 35 Katherine Olive Harris 31 Thomas Winter Harris 9 Cissie Emma Harris 7 Ada May Harris 5 Katherine Florence Harris
Winter Harris in the UK and Ireland, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960 Name: Winter Harris Gender: Male Age: 45 Birth Date: abt 1879 Departure Date: 6 Nov 1924 Port of Departure: Southampton, England Destination Port: Wellington, New Zealand Ship Name: Ruahine Shipping Line: The New Zealand Shipping Company, Limited Official Number: 124582 Master: E T Smith
Travelling with Katherine O, Katherine F, Dorothy M, Elsie A, William H, and George E.
Katherine Olive Harris in the New Zealand, Death Index, 1848-1966 Name: Katherine Olive Harris Death Date: Jul-Aug-Sep 1936 Registration Place: Wellington, Wellington, New Zealand Folio Number: 2723
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20 Jun 2020 10:27 |
If she abandoned her first family, seems unlikely she later went to NZ with them.
Frank Brentnall died in WW1.
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20 Jun 2020 10:24 |
Thanks, Rose.
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20 Jun 2020 10:19 |
Linked:
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1222636
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20 Jun 2020 10:07 |
Her sons went to New Zealand
William Harry Douglas in the New Zealand, World War I Service Records, 1914-1920
Name: William Harry Douglas Birth Date: 27 Aug 1879 Birth Place: Staffordshire, England Enlistment Date: 13 Aug 1914 Service Number: WW1 4/390
Name: Thomas Greensill Douglas Birth Date: 1875 Death Date: 7 Jan 1936 Death Place: Wellington, Wellington City, Wellington, New Zealand Cemetery: St. John's Anglican Churchyard Cemetery Burial or Cremation Place: Johnsonville, Wellington City, Wellington, New Zealand Has Bio?: Y Spouse: Alice Douglas
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20 Jun 2020 10:04 |
You say she 'married twice'. Have you any proof of this?
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20 Jun 2020 09:50 |
From a tree Ancestry - can't speak for the veracity of the info
Name Catherine Annie (Katherine Annie) (Katharine) Greensill Birth Oct 1851 Death Wellington New Zealand 1931
Actually, having checked, I doubt very much that it's accurate, as the death record shows no second forename, and Ancestry links the record to 1851 Scotland census
Name: Catherine Douglass Death Date: Apr-May-Jun 1931 Registration Place: Hampden, Otago, New Zealand Folio Number: 1901
Name: Catherine Douglas Death Age: 80 Birth Date: abt 1851 Death Date: 24 Jun 1931 Death Place: Hampden Burial Place: Hampden, Otago Cemetery : Hampden
The same tree on Ancestry has her death 'before 1891 in Walsall', so NOT RELIABLE
Someone's been guessing!
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20 Jun 2020 09:16 |
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Name: Katherine Brentnall Event Type: Census Event Date: 31 Mar 1901 Event Place: Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom County: Staffordshire Civil Parish: Wolverhampton Ecclesiastical Parish: All Saints Sub-District: Wolverhampton Eastern Registration District: Wolverhampton Gender: Female Age: 43 Relationship to Head of Household: Wife Birth Year (Estimated): 1858 Birthplace: Wolverhampton, Staffordshire Schedule Type: 125 Page Number: 24
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace William T Brentnall Head M 38 Birmingham, Warwickshire Katherine Brentnall Wife F 43 Wolverhampton, Staffordshire Frank W Brentnall Son M 13 Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
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20 Jun 2020 09:10 |
Are you saying this is Catherine in 1891?
Name: Catherine A Brentnall Event Type: Census Event Date: 1891 Event Place: Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom Event Place (Original): Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England Event Place Note: Temple Street County: Staffordshire Parish: Wolverhampton Ecclesiastical Parish: ST JOHN Enumeration District: 6 Registration District: Wolverhampton Gender: Female Age: 30 Marital Status: Married Birth Year (Estimated): 1861 Birthplace: Staffordshire, England Relationship to Head of Household: Wife Page Number: 9 Registration Number: RG12 Piece/Folio: 2226/ 105 Affiliate Record Type: Household Affiliate Image Identifier: GBC/1891/2226/0217&parentid=GBC/1891/0015179171
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace William T Brentnall Head M 24 Warwickshire, England Catherine A Brentnall Wife F 30 Staffordshire, England Frank W Brentnall Son M 3 Staffordshire, England William Perry Boarder M 25 Staffordshire, England
There's no marriage and Frank's MMN is Douglas.
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20 Jun 2020 08:44 |
Husband is listed as widowed in 1891:
Name: William Douglas Event Type: Census Event Date: 1891 Event Place: Walsall Foreign, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom Event Place (Original): Walsall Foreign, Staffordshire, England Event Place Note: Stafford Street County: Staffordshire Parish: Walsall Foreign Ecclesiastical Parish: ST PETERS Enumeration District: 24 Registration District: Walsall Gender: Male Age: 48 Marital Status: Widowed Occupation: Buckle Maker Birth Year (Estimated): 1843 Birthplace: Scotland Relationship to Head of Household: Lodger Page Number: 3 Registration Number: RG12 Piece/Folio: 2253/ 5 Affiliate Record Type: Household Affiliate Image Identifier: GBC/1891/2253/0011&parentid=GBC/1891/0015386094
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace William J Plant Head M 25 Staffordshire, England Clara Plant Wife F 23 Staffordshire, England Bertha Plant Daughter F 2 Staffordshire, England William Douglas Lodger M 48 Scotland William H Douglas Lodger M 11 Staffordshire, England Catharine Olive Douglas Lodger F 9 Staffordshire, England
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20 Jun 2020 07:54 |
First marriage was listed as Katherine Annie
Marriages Mar 1873 DOUGLAS William Walsall 6b 882 GREENSILL Katharine Annie Walsall 6b 882
Not seeing a marriage to a Brentnall.
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20 Jun 2020 05:45 |
I am searching for the dod of the abovenamed, who was married twice - to Douglas and then to Brentnall. Grateful for any help, thank you.
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