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Lorraine
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18 Jun 2020 07:04 |
Hi , my grandmother Marjorie Violet (nee Boggis) Reeve born 1903 at Bury St Edmonds apparently was in London in 1939 - not sure whether her boys were with her, but their details are ; Roy born 1926 Dennis born 1928 John ' 1935 Norman 1937 My father Roy never spoke about his family - it was a surprise to us when I started to research & found out about his siblings, so looking forward to any info Thanks alot Lorraine
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ErikaH
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18 Jun 2020 09:14 |
Not London.............
1939 White Lodge New Market, Newmarket U.D., Cambridgeshire, England Marjorie Pygall (Laming,Reeve) 08 Oct 1903 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Divorced 1 156 One closed record - probably Norman
Norman's birth was registered in Newmarket district
The sons will not be open records on 1939 register, unless they died fairly young, or their deaths have been notified to the people updating the register
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18 Jun 2020 09:24 |
Marriages Mar 1950 (>99%) Laming Marjorie V Pygall N.Walsham 4b 1058 Pygall Frederick W Laming N.Walsham 4b 1058
Deaths Dec 1964 (>99%) PYGALL MARJORIE 61 BURY ST. E. 4B 984
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ErikaH
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18 Jun 2020 09:29 |
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Death REEVE, NORMAN (birth year) 1937 GRO Reference: DOR Q4/2017 in Suffolk (748-1F) Entry Number 516569094
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ErikaH
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18 Jun 2020 09:33 |
The 1939 register indicates that Marjorie married Laming 30/08/1946, but I can't find any record in England/Wales - or Scotland
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ErikaH
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18 Jun 2020 12:40 |
First name(s) FREDERICK WILLIAM Last name PYGALL Gender Male Birth day 3 Birth month 2 Birth year 1911 Age - Death quarter 2 Death year 1989 District North Walsham Register number 489 County Norfolk Volume 10 Page 1475
1939 Heath Farm, Erpingham R.D., Norfolk, England Fred (W) Pygall 03 Feb 1911 Male Horseman On Farm Single 2 1 Albert Pygall 15 Jul 1912 Male Labourer On Farm Single 2 2
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ErikaH
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18 Jun 2020 12:50 |
The birth year is wrong, but the day & month would fit. And there isn't a birth in 1926 to tally
Deaths Mar 1974 (>99%) Reeve Dennis 7AU1926 Chester 10a 564
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ErikaH
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18 Jun 2020 13:10 |
First name(s) Marjorie Last name Boggis Birth year 1903 Birth date 07 Apr 1903 Event year 1906 School name St Mary's Infants School, Bury St Edmunds Town Bury St Edmunds County Suffolk Country England Parent name(s) Fredk Book type Admissions Archive reference ADB550/2/12
1911 Census For England & Wales 23 Churchwalks Bury St Eds, Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England Frederick Boggis Head Married Male 41 1870 Platelayer Acton Suffolk Ellen Boggis Wife Married Female 39 1872 - Little Waldingfield Suffolk Bessie Boggis Daughter Single Female 15 1896 - Bury St Eds Suffolk Frederick Boggis Son - Male 14 1897 Newsboy Bury St Eds Suffolk Christopher Boggis Son - Male 12 1899 School Bury St Eds Suffolk Nellie Boggis Daughter - Female 10 1901 School Bury St Eds Suffolk Marjorie Boggis Daughter - Female 8 1903 - Bury St Eds Suffolk Cecil Boggis Son - Male 5 1906 - Bury St Eds Suffolk
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ErikaH
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18 Jun 2020 13:13 |
1939
23 Church Walks, Bury St Edmunds M.B., England Frederick Boggis 23 May 1870 Male Ganger On Railway Married 233 1 Ellen Eliza Boggis 29 Aug 1871 Female Unpaid Dom Duties Married 233 2
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ErikaH
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18 Jun 2020 13:19 |
Marriages Jun 1926 (>99%) Boggis Marjorie V Reeve Bury St. E. 4a 2058 Reeve Kenneth A Boggis Bury St. E. 4a 2058
Name: Kenneth Arthur Reeve Death Age: 88 Birth Date: 6 Jan 1905 Registration Date: Feb 1993 Registration district: Ipswich Inferred County: Suffolk Register Number: B9B District and Subdistrict: 7471B Entry Number: 129
No birth in England/Wales or Scotland to match, but this is the same man in 1939
The Bungalow The Street, Samford R.D., Suffolk, England Charles H Reeve 28 Mar 1873 Male Market Gardener Married 198 1 Laura Reeve 24 Jan 1869 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 198 2 Kenneth Reeve 06 Jan 1905 Male Bricklayer Journey Man Married 198 3 Barry W M (William W) Walsom (Barry) 18 Jul 1925 Male At School Single 198 4
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ErikaH
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18 Jun 2020 17:07 |
Name: Laura Reeve Death Age: 79 Birth Date: abt 1869 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec 1948 Registration district: Samford Inferred County: Suffolk Volume: 4b Page: 812
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Deaths Mar 1949 (>99%) Reeve Charles H 75 Ipswich 4b 946
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ErikaH
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18 Jun 2020 17:19 |
Is this Kenneth (Reeve)
JENNINGS, KENNETH ARTHUR (MMN) GRANGER GRO Reference: 1905 M Quarter in IPSWICH Volume 04A Page 1074
Yes, it is.............................
Marriages Dec 1891 (>99%) Granger Laura Bosmere 4a 1598 Jennings Benjamin Bosmere 4a 1598
Marriages Jun 1917 (>99%) Jennings Laura Reeve Ipswich 4a 1768 Reeve Charles M Jennings Ipswich 4a 1768
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ErikaH
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18 Jun 2020 17:31 |
Name: Benjamin Jennings Age: 31 Estimated birth year: abt 1870 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Laura Jennings Birth Place: Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: St Margaret Ecclesiastical parish: St John the Baptist County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Registration district: Ipswich Sub-registration district: Ipswich Eastern ED, institution, or vessel: 20 Piece: 1779 Folio: 141 Page Number: 27 Household schedule number: 177 Household Members: Name Age Benjamin Jennings 31 Laura Jennings 31 Maud A Jennings 15 Horace W Jennings 11**************** Charlie R Jennings 9 Barry J Jennings 4 Mabel V Jennings 1
*********Horace William Granger at birth
Kenneth, Maud & Mabel are in the Workhouse in 1911
Name: Laura Jennings................widow Age in 1911: 40 Estimated birth year: abt 1871 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Female Birth Place: Ipswich, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Ipswich County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street address: 22 Cowper Street, Ipswich Occupation: Needlewoman Registration district: Ipswich Registration District Number: 213 Sub-registration district: Ipswich Eastern ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Piece: 10841 Household Members: Name Age Laura Jennings 40 Barry John Jennings 14 Ruby C Jennings 5 Hilda M. Jennings 3
JENNINGS, BARRY JOHN (MMN) GRAINGER GRO Reference: 1897 D Quarter in IPSWICH Volume 04A Page 920
Name: Benjamin Jennings Estimated birth year: abt 1871 Registration Year: 1909 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Age at Death: 38 Registration district: Ipswich Inferred County: Suffolk Volume: 4a Page: 652
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Lorraine
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19 Jun 2020 06:14 |
Hi Erikah - well I'm gobsmacked , thank you very much for your time - You know the 1939 register you mentioned, how come they can indicate Marjorie married Laming way in the future of 1946. All the best with your own search - Lorraine :-)
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ErikaH
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19 Jun 2020 08:52 |
The 1939 register was updated until around 1980 (I think-not sure of year) as it formed the basis for the issuing of NI numbers
The marriage info was added only for women.
My father married my stepmother in 1949, and the date of their marriage is on her record., along with her ‘new’ surname
The 1939 register also showed Marjorie’s second re-marriage, as you can see from the surnames given for her on the record..
Do you need any further help?
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ErikaH
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19 Jun 2020 11:02 |
As mentioned earlier - although I referred to Maud, which was an error. The third child was listed as Dorothy
1911
First name(s) Kenneth Last name Jennings Relationship Inmate Sex Male Age 6 Birth year 1905 Birth place Suffolk Ipswich Occupation - House name - House number - Street Freehold Road And Bloomfield Street Address Freehold Road And Bloomfield Street Ipswich
First name(s) Dorothy Last name Jennings Relationship Inmate Sex Female Age 8 Birth year 1903 Birth place Suffolk Ipswich Occupation - House name - House number - Street Freehold Road And Bloomfield Street Address Freehold Road And Bloomfield Street Ipswich
First name(s) DOROTHY MAUD Last name JENNINGS Birth year 1903 Birth quarter 1 Registration month - Mother's maiden name Granger District Ipswich County Suffolk Country England Volume 4A Page 1058
First name(s) Mabel Last name Jennings Relationship Inmate Sex Female Age 11 Birth year 1900 Birth place Suffolk Ipswich Occupation School House name - House number - Street Freehold Road And Bloomfield Street Address Freehold Road And Bloomfield Street Ipswich
First name(s) MABEL VICTORIA Last name JENNINGS Birth year 1900 Birth quarter 2 Registration month - Mother's maiden name Granger District Ipswich County Suffolk Country England Volume 4A Page 984
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ErikaH
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19 Jun 2020 11:10 |
A tree on Ancestry has this as Mabel's marriage
Marriages Dec 1918 (>99%) Jennings Mabel V Reeve Cosford 4a 1898 Reeve William Oscar Jennings Cosford 4a 1898
This MAY be her death
Deaths Dec 1983 (>99%) REEVE MABEL VICTORIA 26FE1900 COLCHESTER 9 2215
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ErikaH
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19 Jun 2020 11:22 |
1939 The Street, Samford R.D., Suffolk, England
William O Reeve 25 Dec 1899 Male Market Gardener Married 199 1 Mabel V (Mabel) Reeve 26 Feb 1898 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 199 2 2 closed records
REEVE, WILLIAM OSCAR PARKER GRO Reference: 1900 M Quarter in IPSWICH Volume 04A Page 1031
1901 Freehold Road, Ipswich St Margaret, Ipswich, Suffolk, England Charles Reeve Head Married Male 28 1873 Bricklayers Labourer Ipswich, Suffolk, England Mary A Reeve Wife Married Female 32 1869 - Hintlesham, Suffolk, England Nelly A Reeve Daughter - Female 5 1896 - Ipswich, Suffolk, England William O Reeve Son - Male 1 1900 - Ipswich, Suffolk, England Stanley E Topple Step Son - Male 13 1888 - Ipswich, Suffolk, England
Marriages Sep 1894 (>99%) Reeve Charles Ipswich 4a 1349 Topple Mary Ann Ipswich 4a 1349
TOPPLE, STANLEY EDGAR PARKER GRO Reference: 1887 D Quarter in IPSWICH Volume 04A Page 799
Marriages Sep 1885 (>99%) PARKER Mary Ann Samford 4a 1039 Topple Edgar Samford 4a 1039
I'm wondering whether William's father Charles is the same man who married Kenneth's mother Laura. Or if it's simpy a coincidence.
Intriguing.......................
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ErikaH
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19 Jun 2020 11:29 |
Name: William Reeve Age in 1911: 11 Estimated birth year: abt 1900 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Birth Place: Ipswich, Suffolk, England Civil Parish: Ipswich County/Island: Suffolk Country: England Street address: Brittiania Road, Ipswich Occupation: School Registration district: Ipswich Registration District Number: 213 Sub-registration district: Ipswich Eastern ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Piece: 10841 Household Members: Name Age Charles Reeve 38***************Market Gardener (same as 1939) Alice Reeve 15 William Reeve 11
Charles is recorded as 'married'
REEVE, ALICE ELLEN MARY PARKER GRO Reference: 1895 S Quarter in ISPWICH Volume 04A Page 909
So it looks as though Mabel's hubby was indeed the son of her stepfather.
First name(s) WILLIAM OSCAR Last name REEVE Gender Male Birth day 25 Birth month 12 Birth year 1899 Age - Death quarter 3 Death year 1988 District Colchester Register number 888 County Essex Volume 9 Page 2041
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ErikaH
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19 Jun 2020 12:05 |
Births Dec 1933 (>99%) Reeve ***** Jennings Samford 4a 1309 (female ) Reeve Helen Jennings Samford 4a 1309
Deaths Sep 1935 (>99%) Reeve Helen 1 Samford 4a 917
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