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Hi
I have 3 members of my Murray family going to Australia 1854 The info was from Familysearch

It has John Baird Murray,b 1825, Alexander Gibb Murray b and Alexander Murray Allan went to Australia 1850
Alexander Gibb Murray b 1831 died 1858
Alexander Murray Allan Married had 7 children and died 1905

But Not sure about John Baird Murray I think he must be part of the family as the other 2 are but his birth only has John Murray as another one of his brothers seemed to have the Baird name added after
Baird was their mothers maiden name

I have a death for John Baird Murray 1866 Just wondering if any one can help in finding him and seeing if it gives any clues to his parents or where he was born I've already followed the wrong John as I didn't think he went to Australia
John was born West Lothian his parents were Alexander Murray and Ann Baird

Thank you

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Name: John Murray
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 4 Aug 1825
Baptism Date: 10 Aug 1825
Baptism Place: , Linlithgow, West Lothian, Scotland
Father: Alexander Murray
Mother: Ann Baird
FHL Film Number: 1066635
Reference ID: 2:18MPR7T

Name: John Baird Murray
Gender: Male
Death Place: Australia
Inquest Date: 16 Jun 1866
Inquest Place: Landsborough
Cause of Death: Inflammation of the right lung

Thank you thought it might have had more

Census Year County Place Civil Parish Piece Enumeration District Folio Page House Number House or Street Name
1841 West Lothian (WLN) Linlithgow Linlithgow 668 2 0 15 High Street
Surname Forenames Sex Age Occupation Birth County Notes
MURRAY Alexr M 50 Shoemaker OUC
BAIRD Ann F 50 WLN
MURRAY Jean F 30 ENG
MURRAY John M 12 WLN
MURRAY Cecily F 10 WLN
MURRAY Andw M 8 WLN
ALLAN Alexr M 2 WLN

Is their any chance of finding him in a census he was down as a mason when he left in 1850

John Murray
in the 1841 Scotland Census
Name: John Murray
Age: 17
Estimated birth year: abt 1824
Gender: Male
Where born: West Lothian, Scotland
Civil Parish: Linlithgow
County: West Lothian
Address: High Street
Parish Number: 668
Household Members:
Name Age
Magdalen Rowan 60
Janet Rowan 20

James Rowan 13
Alexr Murray 50
Ann Baird 50
Jean Murray 30
John Murray 17
Cecily Murray 10
Andw Murray 8
Alexr Allan 2



When you say "part of the family" - do you mean a brother?

You said Alexander Gibb Murray. Did you mean Andrew Gibb Murray?

Andrew Gibb Murray wasn't a brother of John, unless Ann was also known as Agnes:

MURRAY
ANDREW GIBB
ALEXANDER MURRAY/AGNES BAIRD FR3901 (FR3901)
M
08/01/1832
668/
120 79
Linlithgow

yes that is them in 1841

ALLAN
ALEXANDER MURRA(y)
JAMES FLEMING/ALLAN & JANE MURRAY FR3926 (FR3926)
M
11/07/1838
668/
120 126
Linlithgow

As John left in 1850, there's no other census to find him in as a mason.

Sorry
Andrew was John's brother
Alexander Murray Allan was his Nephew John's sister Jean married James F Allan

I think John could have been a miner in Australia

This man (a miner) told a work colleague that he was 42 years old, and came from Stirlingshire, Scotland.
He requested that his effects, if any after his debts were paid, should be sent to his brother Alexander Murray, Barrington House, Edinburgh


John Baird Murray
in the Victoria, Australia, Coroner Inquest Deposition Files, 1840-1925
Name: John Baird Murray
Gender: Male
Death Place: Australia
Inquest Date: 16 Jun 1866
Inquest Place: Landsborough
Cause of Death: Inflammation of the right lung

Age Fits with "this man" the only thing is I have his brother Alexander Dying Jan 1866 Dundee and that wasn't his address in 1861??

Unfortunately, we don't know where people lived in between censuses, unless they are on online ERs.

There are several Alexander Murrays in Edinburgh in 1866, but none at Barrington House.

Possibly John Baird Murray's information was out of date - if he wasn't often in contact with his brother.

I can't find any mention of Barrington House on Google, or on the Edinburgh ERs.

Thank you I'll make a note on John so I know it not verified may be at a later date I might find some thing I was hoping his death certificate might give his parents but it sounds as though he was a loner so no one new anything about him I know Alexander Murray Allan his nephew who emigrated with him finished up in New Zealand so he possibly had no one over there

Thank you for your help

MISSING FRIENDS, MESSAGES ETC

ANDREW GIBB MURRAY, and ALEX-
ANDER MURRAY ALLEN,-Write
to John Baird Murray, Post-office, Castle-
maine._ _ 1211 wk

From The Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957) Tuesday 7 October 1856 p 1 Advertising


INTESTATE ESTATES

Letters of administration were granted to the curator of intestate estates, in reference to the goods of Bartholomew Weigand of the Black Springs (£87 7s), John Healey of Malmesbury (£13 7s 6d) John Baird Murray of Ray's Rush, Landsborough (£18) and John Davies of Chiltern (£36 15s)

The Age (Melbourne, Vic. : 1854 - 1954) Saturday 28 July 1866 p 6 Article

Great find, alviegal!

Thank you
I'll put that in my tree

passenger Lists, 1839-1923
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Name:
John Baird Murray
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Event Type:
Emigration
Event Date:
23 Dec 1854
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Event Place:
Liverpool, New South Wales, Australia
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Event Place (Original):
Liverpool
Gender:
Male
Age:
30
Birth Year (Estimated):
1824
Arrival Year:
1855
Arrival Place:
Melbourne
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Record Number:
11

they travelled together


Alexr Murray Allan
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Event Type:
Emigration
Event Date:
23 Dec 1854
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Event Place:
Liverpool, New South Wales, Australia
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Event Place (Original):
Liverpool
Gender:
Male
Age:
16
Birth Year (Estimated):
1838
Arrival Year:
1855
Arrival Place:
Melbourne
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Record Number:
13

Thank you