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Joanie said (7 June, 17:23 ) -
".I sent for that cert the SMITH / Nelson one and it was wrong"

Joanie has Teresa's birth cert - AND James William's as per her posts

If only the 1939 register is being relied on and no birth certificates have been got for any of the older children for proof of their named mother then Lilian Smith may not have been Lilian Heslop but a second wife.?

THIS is the birth

Births Jun 1938 (>99%)
Smith Teresa Smith Nelson 8e 228

With Margaret being born 02/04/1937, an August would seem a little more feasible. Not that it helps.

Rose

Just for clarification (or confusion ?) -

Joanie - you say Teresa was born 4/3/1938.

Her death record says 4/3/38 - and spells her name Tereasa.

(the transcription of her burial record calls her Teresa Huskinson, but the image has Teresa Huskison.)

On the image of the 1939 Register, it seems to have been written first as 2 Mar 1938 (the day is hard to see as it's partly obscured by blotting of ink from the opposite page) .

Then it's been amended to 16/8/1938.
FMP's transcription (already posted) of 1939 Register gives that revised date.

Ancestry's transcription says 3 Mar 1938 (and the 2 does look as if it could be a 3, because of the blotting).



Not that any of those dates helps to find her birth record!

The birth is TERESA, and is not in dispute

this is the only theresa smith's birth march 1938

Births Mar 1938 (>99%)
Smith Theresa M Smith Leicester 7a 354



i can find there is no birth for theresa august 1938 has stated in 39 reg.

Thank you Argyllgran, I did go to my threads but could not find them before i put this on and did try to explain on first post.x

Unfortunately, huge numbers of WW1 forces records have not survived, and William Smith is, as you've said, an extremely common name.

Also, many of the records which do survive are only medal records, and don't give the person's DOB or any helpful personal information.


For future reference - to find old threads which you've started, click on "My threads" in the "Tools" menu on the left side of this page, and then at the top of the resulting list of threads, click on "My threads - started".
If you were to add anything to the end of any of your old threads, that would bring it back to the top of the list of threads, and therefore all the helpers would notice it.

Thank you ErikaH for the info on him being in Navy, may i ask if there are any special sites i can look on for info on his family ?

I am looking on Ancestry but nothing as yet for his birth date on military site. the mystery deepens I will keep on for a wee bit longer, god loves a trier.

Once again thank you for looking, take care in these awful times.

Joanie x

oh you found the threads...., I also sent for a marriage cert William h Smith 31/08/1925 married Elizabeth Etheline Heslop in Durham.

I have been doing it again for the last 4 months, thought if i have a break i might just get some where plus i have been contacting others with a William Smith b.1895 in their tree. The plus was the 1939 register which gave their birth dates.

So this has all been done before, with no more success than now.

Two previous threads:

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1205247

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1207733

I always thought they both came from Northumberland William and Lilian as i sent for their first born James William Smith's birth cert and address where born is 11 Walker Terrace Bedlington, looks like Lilian could not write as they put her mark X and address when registering James as : The Lodging House Grey Horse lane Houghton le Spring...William's occupation was a Hawker....

Maybe she was born in another county



SORRY I was wrong my Aunt Teresa Smith was born 4/3/1938...I sent for that cert the SMITH / Nelson one and it was wrong....SORRY

Can't see any sign of Theresa's birth reg on freebmd, FMP, or LancsBMD

Speculating........................

Births Sep 1899 (>99%)
Heslop Annie Lilian Newcastle T. 10b 57

NO.......she died in 1916

Thanks ErikaH did not know that.

If you look at the image of 1939 register you will see that William is clearly recorded as being an 'ex-Navy' man