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Rose, many thanks for all your work. I have researched the children of George and Ann Loyd however I havn't found any information on the children and their husbands. Your research shows that Anne's husband is William Jackson which is fab, Ann did live at Etruria Road so it all seems right.


Martha was her sister and looking at your reserch it seems that Martha has a middle name of Lloyd is that right.

Many thanks. Martin

Ann
Last name Lloyd
Baptism year 1825
Baptism date 21 Aug 1825
Baptism place Wolverhampton, St Peter
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Mother's first name(s) Mary
County Staffordshire
Country England
Archive reference D1157/1/1/10
Page 5

brother as per 1851 census

Thomas
Last name Lloyd
Baptism year 1819
Baptism date 02 May 1819
Baptism place Wolverhampton, St Peter
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) Thomas
Mother's first name(s) Mary
County Staffordshire
Country England
Archive reference D1157/1/1/8
Page 285

Hanover Street, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire, England
1851

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
George Hill Head Married Male 27 1824 Coal Miner Shelton, Staffordshire, England
Ann Hill Wife Married Female 26 1825 - Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
William Hill Son - Male 0 1851 - Shelton, Staffordshire, England
Thomas Lloyd Visitor Married Male 31 1820 Coal Miner Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
Mary Lloyd - Married Female 33 1818 - Tipton, Staffordshire, England
Joseph Lloyd Visitor's Son - Male 7 1844 - Bilston, Staffordshire, England
Thomas Lloyd Visitor's Son - Male 4 1847 - Bilston, Staffordshire, England

Alice
Last name Hill
Baptism year 1859
Baptism date 10 Apr 1859
Baptism place Shelton, St Mark
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) George
Mother's first name(s) Ann
County Staffordshire
Country England
Archive reference D4904/1/2

William
Last name Hill
Baptism year 1850
Baptism date 13 Oct 1850
Baptism place Shelton, St Mark
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) George
Mother's first name(s) Ann
County Staffordshire
Country England
Archive reference D4904/1/1
Page 212

Martha
Last name Hill
Baptism year 1859
Baptism date 10 Apr 1859
Baptism place Shelton, St Mark
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) George
Mother's first name(s) Ann
County Staffordshire
Country England
Archive reference D4904/1/2
Page 4
Register type Baptism
Page 4

Ann
Last name Hill
Baptism year 1852
Baptism date 05 Dec 1852
Baptism place Shelton, St Mark
Denomination Anglican
Father's first name(s) George
Mother's first name(s) Ann
County Staffordshire
Country England
Archive reference D4904/1/1
Page 235

If the couple marrying were your ancestors, you must have worked back to them through one of their children.

Which one was it?

Name: George Hill
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 24 May 1846
Event Place: Shelton, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original): Shelton, Staffordshire, England
Parish: St Mark
Residence Place: Shelton
Age: Full Age
Father's Name: William Hill
Spouse's Name: Ann Lloyd
Spouse's Residence Place: Shelton
Spouse's Age: Full Age
Spouse's Father's Name: Thomas Lloyd
Affiliate Image Identifier: D4904/1/17

Rose

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
HILL, MARTHA LLOYD
GRO Reference: 1856 M Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 138

Rose

1861?

Name: Alice Hill
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1861
Event Place: Shelton, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original): Shelton, Staffordshire, England
County: Staffordshire
Ecclesiastical Parish: Etruria
Registration District: Stoke-Upon-Trent
Residence Note: Etruria Road
Gender: Female
Age: 2
Birth Year (Estimated): 1859
Birthplace: Leek, Staffordshire
Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter
Page Number: 13
Registration Number: RG09
Piece/Folio: 1935 / 86
Affiliate Record Type: Household
Affiliate Image Identifier: http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBC/1861/1935/00300A&parentid=GBC/1861/0010471907


Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
George Hill Head M 36 Hanley, Staffordshire
Ann Hill Wife F 35 Wolverhampton, Staffordshire
William Hill Son M 10 Hanley, Staffordshire
Ann Hill Daughter F 8 Hanley, Staffordshire
Martha Hill Daughter F 5 Hanley, Staffordshire
Alice Hill Daughter F 2 Leek, Staffordshire

Rose

Is this the family in 1881? Alice not listed as being born in Leek.

Name: William Jackson
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1881
Event Place: Ripley, Derbyshire, England
Registration District: Belper
Residence Note: Station Rd
Gender: Male
Age: 25
Marital Status: Married
Marital Status (Original): Married
Occupation: Saggar Maker
Birth Year (Estimated): 1856
Birthplace: Burslem, Staffordshire, England
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Page Number: 9
Registration Number: RG11
Piece/Folio: 3414/129
Affiliate Record Type: Household
Affiliate Image Identifier: GBC/1881/4316109/00273&parentid=GBC/1881/0015526222


Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
William Jackson Head M 25 Burslem, Staffordshire, England
Alice Jackson Wife F 22 Handley, Staffordshire, England
Alice Jackson Daughter F 0 Ripley, Derbyshire, England
Martha Hill Visitor F 25 Handley, Staffordshire, England


Rose

Name: William Jackson
Event Type: Marriage
Event Date: 13 Jan 1879
Event Place: Burslem, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom
Event Place (Original): St John, Burslem, Stafford, England
Gender: Male
Father's Name: James Jackson
Spouse's Name: Alice Hill
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Father's Name: George Hill

Rose

The marriage cert. will list her father.

Not seeing a birth for an Alice Hill in Leek district in 1859.

There is this:

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
HILL, ALICE LLOYD
GRO Reference: 1859 J Quarter in STOKE-UPON-TRENT Volume 06B Page 161

Who were their children?

Rose

Im looking to confirm the following marriage was of my ancestor -

Alice Hill b1859, Leek, Staffs
Married William Jackson b 1856
Married 1879 in Woolstanton. 6B, 107, 176

I am trying to confirm that the parents of Alice were -
George Hill b around 1824
Ann Lloyd (Hill) b 1825.

Many thanks for any help provided.