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JacquiLouise
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28 May 2020 15:38 |
Hello,
My mother's side of the family are from the Isles of Scilly and I am trying to trace her ancestors.
I'm trying to find out if I am related to an Elizabeth Mary Williams who was born on the Isles of Scilly on 5th November 1939. Her parents were John Bryant Williams and Clara Collett Thompson.
I would be grateful for any information anyone could give me.
Thank you Jackie
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ErikaH
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28 May 2020 15:44 |
Who is/was your mother?
Who were her parents?
Who are the people whose names you give? How did you settle on them?
To find ancestors, start with your mother - her parents will be named on her birth cert.
Work back from them........................
No point in our looking at the people you name, until you give us some idea of why you think they're connected to your mother
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Maddie
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28 May 2020 16:20 |
Name: Clara B Williams [C Williams] Gender: Female Marital status: Married Birth Date: 21 May 1911 Residence Year: 1939 Address: Borough Farm. Residence Place: Scilly, Isles of, Cornwall, England Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties Schedule Number: 89 Sub Schedule Number: 2 Enumeration District: WBZB Registration district: 301 Inferred Spouse: John B Williams Household Members: Name John B Williams Clara B Williams Richard Thompson
Name: John B Williams Gender: Male Marital status: Married Birth Date: 8 Apr 1887 - image says 07 Residence Year: 1939 Address: Borough Farm. Residence Place: Scilly, Isles of, Cornwall, England Occupation: Market Gardener Dairy Farm
CLARA C Last name THOMPSON Birth year 1911 Birth quarter 2 Registration month - Mother's maiden name Collett District Scilly Islands
JOHN BRYANT Last name WILLIAMS Birth year 1907 Birth quarter 2 Registration month - Mother's maiden name Barker District Scilly Islands
1911 Census For England & Wales
Borough St Marys Isles of Scilly, St Marys, Cornwall, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Williams Head Married Male 31 1880 Farmer Cornwall St Marys Scilly Eliza Williams Wife Married Female 32 1879 - Cornwall Coverack Cornwall John Williams Son - Male 4 1907 - Cornwall St Marys Scilly Annie Williams Daughter - Female 2 1909 - Cornwall St Marys Scilly Mary Williams Mother Widow Female 57 1854 - Cornwall St Erth Cornwall Ethel Williams Sister - Female 14 1897 - Cornwall St Marys Scilly Bertha Williams Sister Single Female 15 1896 - Cornwall St Marys Scilly Frank Kentfield Servant Single Male 17 1894 Assistant On Farm London Wandsworth
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greyghost
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28 May 2020 16:23 |
1939 register with John and Clara Williams. there is also a Richard Thompson in the household. Relationships are not given on the register but possible that Richardf is Clara's Father given his age and the fact he's living with them.
Clara B (C) Williams's life in 1939 Borough Farm, Scilly, Isles of R.D., Cornwall, England
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number John B Williams 08 Apr 1887 Male Market Gardener Dairy Farm Married 89 1 also a Clara B (C) Williams 21 May 1911 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 89 2 Richard Thompson 29 May 1877 Male Carpenter Incapacitated Married 89 3 Ref: RG101/6750D/008/15 Letter Code: WBZB © Findmypast Ltd
Without details of who your parents are/were we won't really be able to help. Tell us all you know and if you have looked for information yourself
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Maddie
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28 May 2020 16:28 |
use free bmd to find children williams / thompson scilly isles
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greyghost
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28 May 2020 16:34 |
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: THOMPSON, CLARA COLLETT COLLETT GRO Reference: 1911 J Quarter in ISLES OF SCILLY Volume 05C Page 208
Marriage
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Sep 1901 (>99%) Collett Clara Elizabeth Scilly 5c 456 <<<<<<<< Russell Alexander Gardner Scilly 5c 456 SANDREY Susan Kate Scilly 5c 456 Thompson Richard Scilly 5c 456 <<<<<<<<<<
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greyghost
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28 May 2020 16:37 |
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Carn Thomas, Hugh Town & Garrison, St Marys, Scilly Islands, Cornwall, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John R Thompson Head Married Male 57 1844 Shipwright Cornwall, England Elizabeth J Thompson Wife Married Female 56 1845 - Cornwall, England Richard Thompson Son Single Male 24 1877 House Carpenter Cornwall, England Clara Thompson Daughter Single Female 21 1880 - Cornwall, England Alfred Thompson Son Single Male 18 1883 Carpenter Apprentice Cornwall, England
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greyghost
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28 May 2020 16:39 |
A clue here back to the next generation -
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census Well Lane, Hugh Town & Garrison, St Marys, Scilly Islands, Cornwall, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Richard J Collett Head Married Male 48 1853 Boatman Cornwall, England Elizabeth A Collett Wife Married Female 51 1850 - Cornwall, England Lillie G Collett Daughter Single Female 24 1877 - Cornwall, England Clara E Collett Daughter Single Female 19 1882 Dressmaker Cornwall, England Annie M Collett Daughter Single Female 17 1884 - Cornwall, England Ethel J Collett Daughter Single Female 14 1887 - Cornwall, England Nannie E Collett Daughter Single Female 9 1892 - Cornwall, England Samuel Jenkins Father-In-Law Widow Male 80 1821 Gardener (Market) Cornwall, England
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greyghost
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28 May 2020 16:43 |
Clara E Thompson's life in 1939 Thorough Jare, Scilly, Isles of R.D., Cornwall, England
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number Clara E Thompson 08 Apr 1881 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 84 1 Cecil Thompson 25 Dec 1915 Male Boatman Single 84 2 Lilian M McLucas (Thompson) 16 Nov 1917 Female Domestic Service Single 84 3 Ref: RG101/6750C/008/7 Letter Code: WBZA © Findmypast Ltd
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Maddie
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28 May 2020 17:26 |
elizabeth mary williams mmn thompson appears to have married in 1960
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ArgyllGran
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28 May 2020 17:28 |
John Bryant Williams in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: John Bryant Williams Death Age: 66 Birth Date: 8 Apr 1907 Registration Date: Oct 1973 [Nov 1973] [Dec 1973] Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district: Penzance Inferred County: Cornwall Volume: 7a Page: 256
Address: 3 Lescudjack road, Penzance.
Clara Collett Williams in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Clara Collett Williams Death Age: 73 Birth Date: 21 May 1911 Registration Date: Jun 1984 Registration district: Penzance Inferred County: Cornwall Volume: 21 Page: 360
Same address.
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ArgyllGran
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28 May 2020 17:38 |
Re the 1960 marriage Maddie mentions -
that couple appear to have been living in Dyfed, 2002-15.
The house has not been sold since then, per Zoopla and other sites.
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greyghost
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28 May 2020 18:39 |
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk - free to use site
Probate - John Bryant Williams of 3 Lescudjack Road, Penzance died 27 December 1973. Administration Bristol 18th April
Clara Collett of 3 Lescudjack Road Penzance died 7 June 1984. Probate Bristol 31 July
A grant of Administration wouldn't tell you much but a copy of Clara's will might give information.
You can buy one through the site - £1.50
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JacquiLouise
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1 Jun 2020 17:14 |
Thank you very much everyone for all this information. It has been very helpful.
Jackie
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