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Frederick Smith DoB 9 January 1901

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jenVG

jenVG Report 26 May 2020 22:37

This man was killed by a German bomb in Manchester in December 1940. I am wondering if he has any descendants who may have information about any of his children if any
. :-)

jenVG

jenVG Report 26 May 2020 22:39

His parents were Sarah and John Smith

safc

safc Report 26 May 2020 22:47

????

1939 Register logo
The National Archives logo
Frederick Smith's life in 1939
undefined, Manchester C.B., Lancashire, England

(3 people)
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Frederick Smith 09 Jan 1901 Male Electrician Single 44 6
Charles S Gittings 06 Aug 1897 Male Dyer & Bleacher Married 44 7
Patrick Allen 14 Oct 1899 Male Collier Single 44 8
Ref: RG101/4462J/019/1 Letter Code: NJHN

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 26 May 2020 23:10

No indication he was married

From the cwgc site


Civilian
SMITH, FREDERICK

Died 23/12/1940

Aged 39

Civilian War Dead

of 54 Fernleaf Street, Moss Side. Son of Sarah R. Smith, and of the late John Smith. Died at 54 Fernleaf Street.

jenVG

jenVG Report 27 May 2020 12:01

Thank you. Are there any electoral registers on line which could tell me what years he was registered to vote at 54 Fernleaf Street.. I am trying to establish if he was the live in partner of Jessie Brandreth who also died in the bombing with her two daughters Mary and Muriel.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 27 May 2020 12:04

No ER's during the WAR

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 27 May 2020 12:05

Births Mar 1925 (>99%)
Brandreth Mary H Clulow Manchester S 8d 148
Births Jun 1931 (>99%)
Brandreth Muriel N Clulow Manchester S. 8d 36

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 27 May 2020 12:06

BRANDRETH
Civilian
JESSIE
23 December 1940
Age 42
MANCHESTER, COUNTY BOROUGH
VIEW RECORD
Civilian War Dead
United Kingdom
BRANDRETH
Civilian
MARY HILDA
23 December 1940
Age 16
MANCHESTER, COUNTY BOROUGH
VIEW RECORD
Civilian War Dead
United Kingdom
BRANDRETH
Civilian
MURIEL
23 December 1940
Age 9
MANCHESTER, COUNTY BOROUGH
VIEW RECORD
Civilian War Dead
United Kingdom

Civilian
WAKEMAN, JESSIE
Died 23/12/1940
Aged 27
Civilian War Dead
of 54 Fernleaf Street, Moss Side. Died at 54 Fernleaf Street.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 27 May 2020 12:08

1939
54 Fernleaf Street, Manchester C.B., Lancashire, England
Jessie Brandreth 10 Sep 1898 Female Household Duites Married 245 1
Mary H Brandreth 06 Feb 1924 Female Laundry Assistant Single 245 2
Nancy M Brandreth 27 Apr 1931 Female At School - 245 3
Jessie Wakeman 21 May 1912 Female Rubber Worker Single 245 4
Alphen P Toole 23 Aug 1921 Male Finisher Married 245 5

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 27 May 2020 12:10

He could simply have been visiting for one evening

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 27 May 2020 12:14

BRANDRETH, JESSIE
Died 23/12/1940
Aged 42
Civilian War Dead
of 54 Fernleaf Street, Moss Side. Daughter of Thomas and Mary Clulow, of 41 Birch Lane, Longsight; wife of Albert Jack Brandreth. Died at 54 Fernleaf Street.

Jessie's husband seems to be on his own in 1939:

Albert J Brandreth
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Albert J Brandreth
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 23 Mar 1900
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 18 Brunswick Street
Residence Place: Manchester, Lancashire, England
Occupation: General Labourer
Schedule Number: 216
Sub Schedule Number: 10
Enumeration District: NJNY
Registration district: 464-3
Household Members:
Name
Thomas G Halliday
Michel Makon
Wilbraham, Wych
Albert J Brandreth
Ernest Hasleden
Mary E Hasleden
James Carrol
Mary Carrol
William Jones
John M Buckley

I don't see Jessie in 1939 so far. (Ah, but Erika has - above.)

jenVG

jenVG Report 27 May 2020 13:34

Albert Brandreth at Brunswick Street was the estranged husband of Jessie Brandreth ,,+ father if Jessie's elder daughter.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 27 May 2020 14:18

If Frederick had fathered a child with Jessie, surely it would have been in the house when the bomb hit?

jenVG

jenVG Report 27 May 2020 14:41

Albert Brandreth at Brunswick Street was the estranged husband of Jessie Brandreth ,,+ father if Jessie's elder daughter.

jenVG

jenVG Report 27 May 2020 14:41

Albert Brandreth at Brunswick Street was the estranged husband of Jessie Brandreth ,,+ father if Jessie's elder daughter.

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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 27 May 2020 14:47

You've posted the same message three times - and we'd worked out who he was ;-)

jenVG

jenVG Report 27 May 2020 18:43

Sorry Erika. I'm a bit rusty.