My main tree is on Ancestry.co.uk. I am unable to find the 1851 census for the following family on Ancestry, however I can find them easily on FMP. I wrote to Ancestry and they tell me they are able to find the record. I've tried again and again, however no luck. I really want to add this record to my Ancestry tree.
Is there someone who has an Ancestry account that can find this census below? And if so what search terms do you use to find it?
Many thanks!
1851 Census - Bread Street, Warminster, Wiltshire
Household Members Members that resided in the household at the time of the census. First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Daniell Head Married Male 64 1787 Gardener Warminster, Wiltshire, England Mary Ann Daniell Wife Married Female 39 1812 - Warminster, Wiltshire, England Louisa Daniell Daughter - Female 18 1833 Dressmaker Warminster, Wiltshire, England Mary Daniell Daughter - Female 15 1836 Dressmaker Warminster, Wiltshire, England Thomas Daniell Son - Male 14 1837 Carpenter Warminster, Wiltshire, England Ann Daniell Daughter - Female 12 1839 Scholar Warminster, Wiltshire, England Jane Daniell Daughter - Female 11 1840 Scholar Warminster, Wiltshire, England Hester Daniell Daughter - Female 9 1842 Scholar Warminster, Wiltshire, England Elizabeth Daniell Daughter - Female 6 1845 Scholar Warminster, Wiltshire, England John Daniell Son - Male 5 1846 Scholar Warminster, Wiltshire, England Rosa Daniell Daughter - Female 2 1849 - Warminster, Wiltshire, England John Daniell's Census Details Details taken from the original census record. First name(s) John Last name Daniell Relationship Head Marital status Married Sex Male Age 64 Birth year 1787 Occupation Gardener Birth place England Birth place as transcribed England Birth town Warminster Birth town as transcribed Warminster Birth county Wiltshire Birth county as transcribed Wiltshire Street Bread Street Town Warminster Parish Warminster City - County Wiltshire Hamlet - Parliamentary borough - Municipal ward - Registration district Warminster Archive reference HO107 Piece number 1843 Folio 113 Page 23 Record set 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Category Census, land & surveys Subcategory Census Collections from Great Britain, England
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I can't see them on Ancestry
But you don't need the record to be on there to add the info your tree
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Hi Erika, Thanks for looking. I've added the info manually, but I want the source in there too automatically with the record. It's so strange that Ancestry replied to my mail that they can trace the census record. I've sent a reply to tell them I still can't find it and if they can send me a link. Thanks again, Rebecca
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hi can you just look for rosa 1849 and hester
with no surname
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Now that you’ve ‘marked as answered’, people will think you need no further help
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Here's a comparison of the Warminster rego district 1851-61 counts for Ancestry and FMP:
Registration district: WARMINSTER
All 1851 England Census Results Results 1–20 of 11,016 All 1861 England Census Results Results 1–20 of 15,992
Results for 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census 17,054 results Results for 1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census 15,966 results
Whilst they are close in 1861 = just differ by 30 or 2 per thousand (like if FMP turned 2 pages at once while digitizing/transcribing) they are way off in 1851 - Ancestry has missed a large chunk of the head of the file - over 6000 names.
The first name I could find that Ancestry indexed for 1851 Warminster RD was John Knee
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGZZ-KMD Anne Sanger abt 1779 [ho107/1843/218/1] ------------------[ho107/1843/219/2 although Ancestry says it's ho107/1843/218/? with no page number I can guess] https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGZZ-KM6 View Record John Knee Sarah abt 1823 Somerset, Warminst Son-in-law Warminster, Wiltshire View Record Sarah Knee Anne,John abt 1823 Somerset, Warminst Daughter Warminster, Wiltshire View Record Henry Knee John,Sarah abt 1848 Somerset, Warminst Grandson Warminster, Wiltshire View Record Martha Knee John,Sarah abt 1850 Somerset, Warminst Granddaughter Warminster, Wiltshire View Record Mary Knee John,Sarah abt 1850 Somerset, Warminst Granddaughter Warminster, Wiltshire
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGZZ-KCN View Record Henry Kyale Mary A abt 1818 Somerset, Warminst Head Warminster, Wiltshire View Record Mary A Kyale Henry abt 1818 Somerset, Warminst Wife Warminster, Wiltshire View Record Julia Kyale Henry,Mary A abt 1843 Somerset, Warminst Daughter Warminster, Wiltshire View Record Sydney Kyale Henry,Mary A abt 1844 Somerset, Warminst Son Warminster, Wiltshire View Record Samuel Kyale Henry,Mary A abt 1846 Somerset, Warminst Son Warminster, Wiltshire View Record Ann Kyale Henry,Mary A abt 1849 Somerset, Warminst Daughter Warminster, Wiltshire View Record John Kyale Henry,Mary A abt 1851 Somerset, Warminst Son Warminster, Wiltshire View Record William Kyale Henry,Mary A abt 1841 Somerset, Warminst Son Warminster, Wiltshire
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGZZ-KC5 View Record Sarah King abt 1781 Somerset, Warminst Head Warminster, Wiltshire View Record Caroline Turvil Sarah abt 1806 Somerset, Warminst Daughter Warminster, Wiltshire
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGZZ-KCT View Record James Coombes Sarah abt 1787 Somerset, Warminst Head Warminster, Wiltshire View Record Sarah Coombes James abt 1791 Somerset, Warminst Wife Warminster, Wiltshire View Record John Coombes James,Sarah abt 1835 Somerset, Warminst Son Warminster, Wiltshire
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGZZ-KC1 View Record Sarah Brown abt 1780 Somerset, Chippenham Head Warminster, Wiltshire View Record Charlotte Baynter abt 1816 Somerset, Hpter, Sendamore Lodger Warminster, Wiltshire
So could this account for the missing 6038 names? I'll use an RD I'm more familiar with - Leigh in Lancs There piece 2804 had 14296 residents and 465 ff (folios) but if I remove ED 3g + 3h, I'm down to 436 ff and 14296 - 313 - 578 = 12665 residents. Both are roughly twice the size we're after, so I would certainly say we're in the right ball-park - I wish I could say the same for my grandson - he ought to be playing Little League now.
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