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Valerie
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1 May 2020 16:23 |
Hi, Trying to find out the mother of Lincoln Hadley Lawrence Born 1886 in Leeds. I have Hannah Whincup Born 1854-D1890 her husband John Edwin Lawrence B1856 - D1930.
Lincoln marriage to Emily Milburn 1910 ;-Father John Edward (Edwin at times)
But have also found other information which indicates his mother may have been called Mary Hall B1833-D1901 which would have made her 54 when he was born? Father Edwin Lawrence b1825-D1886.
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Val :-)
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alviegal
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1 May 2020 16:38 |
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Stoney Rock Road, Leeds, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Mary Lawrence Head Widow Female 58 1833 - Haven Bank, Lincolnshire, England Walter Lawrence Son Single Male 20 1871 Terra Cotta Moulder Leeds, Yorkshire, England Lucy Lawrence Daughter Single Female 25 1866 Cook Leeds, Yorkshire, England Ada Lawrence Daughter Single Female 22 1869 Shop Assistant Leeds, Yorkshire, England John E Lawrence Son Widower Male 35 1856 Gas Fitter Leeds, Yorkshire, England Ernest Lawrence Grandson - Male 9 1882 Scholar Leeds, Yorkshire, England Mary Lawrence Granddaughter - Female 11 1880 Scholar Leeds, Yorkshire, England Lincoln Lawrence Grandson - Male 4 1887 - Leeds, Yorkshire, England John J Donovan Lodger Single Male 28 1863 Printer Manchester
His father is a widower here so I would imagine Hannah was his mother. Is Mary Hall his grandmother?
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Maddie
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1 May 2020 16:38 |
is this him Stoney Rock Road, Leeds, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England Mary Lawrence Head Widow Female 58 1833 - Haven Bank, Lincolnshire, England Walter Lawrence Son Single Male 20 1871 Terra Cotta Moulder Leeds, Yorkshire, England Lucy Lawrence Daughter Single Female 25 1866 Cook Leeds, Yorkshire, England Ada Lawrence Daughter Single Female 22 1869 Shop Assistant Leeds, Yorkshire, England John E Lawrence Son Widower Male 35 1856 Gas Fitter Leeds, Yorkshire, England Ernest Lawrence Grandson - Male 9 1882 Scholar Leeds, Yorkshire, England Mary Lawrence Granddaughter - Female 11 1880 Scholar Leeds, Yorkshire, England Lincoln Lawrence Grandson - Male 4 1887 - Leeds, Yorkshire, England John J Donovan Lodger Single Male 28 1863 Printer Manchester
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1 May 2020 16:42 |
Record Transcription: 1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
27, Falcon Street, Leeds, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Household Members Members that resided in the household at the time of the census. First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John E Lawrence Head Married Male 24 1857 Labourer General Leeds, Yorkshire, England Hannah Lawrence Wife Married Female 24 1857 - Bramham, Yorkshire, England Mary Lawrence Daughter Single Female 1 1880 - Leeds, Yorkshire, England
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1 May 2020 16:43 |
Ah I see why you ask. He is down as Mary's son here.
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
46, Cameron Street, Leeds, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Mary Lawrence Head Widow Female 68 1833 - Lincolnshire, England Maria Lawrence Daughter Single Female 40 1861 Charwoman Leeds, Yorkshire, England Lincoln Lawrence Son Single Male 14 1887 Joiner's Apprentice Leeds, Yorkshire, England Frank Seriviner Boarder Single Male 21 1880 Boot Maker (Rivetter) Nottinghamshire, England George H Cholerton Boarder Single Male 26 1875 Boot Maker (Rivetter) Derby, Derbyshire, England James Holdford Boarder Single Male 37 1864 Boot Maker (Rivetter) Stafford, Staffordshire, England William O Williamson Boarder Widower Male 62 1839 Light Porter Ripon, Yorkshire, England
Well here is John Edwin with his parents and as you can see, Mary is his mother.
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
7, Delph Street, Leeds, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Edwin Lawrence Head Married Male 34 1827 Gentlemans Servant Harewood, Yorkshire, England Mary Lawrence Wife Married Female 28 1833 - Haven Bank, Lincolnshire, England John E Lawrence Son - Male 4 1857 Scholar Leeds, Yorkshire, England Sarah E Lawrence Daughter - Female 2 1859 - Leeds, Yorkshire, England Maria Lawrence Daughter - Female 1 1860 - Leeds, Yorkshire, England John Epton Lodger - Male 32 1829 Blacksmith Dublin, Dublin, Ireland Johannah Epton Lodger - Female 31 1830 - Waterford, Waterford, Ireland
and his birth. MMN Hall
LAWRENCE, JOHN EDWIN HALL GRO Reference: 1856 S Quarter in LEEDS Volume 09B Page 386
and Lincoln's no MMN.
LAWRENCE, LINCOLN LADLEY - GRO Reference: 1887 M Quarter in LEEDS Volume 09B Page 407
LAWRENCE, ERNEST WHINCUP GRO Reference: 1881 D Quarter in LEEDS Volume 09B Page 464
LAWRENCE, MARY WHINCUP GRO Reference: 1880 M Quarter in LEEDS Volume 09B Page 447
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1 May 2020 16:44 |
Name: Lincoln Lawrence Marriage Age: 24 Event Type: Marriage Birth Year: abt 1886 Marriage Date: 14 May 1910 Marriage Place: Leeds, St Peter, Yorkshire, England Parish as it Appears: Leeds, St Peter Search Photos: Search for 'Leeds, St Peter' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Father: John Edwin Lawrence Spouse: Emily Milburn
Name: John Edward Lawrence ????? Marriage Age: 23 Event Type: Marriage Birth Year: abt 1856 Marriage Date: 5 Apr 1879 Marriage Place: Leeds, St John, Yorkshire, England Parish as it Appears: Leeds, St John Search Photos: Search for 'Leeds, St John' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Father: Edwin Lawrence Spouse: Hannah Wincup
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1 May 2020 16:55 |
This is his birth (note difference in second name):-
First name(s) LINCOLN LADLEY Last name LAWRENCE Birth year 1887 Birth quarter 1 Registration month - Mother's maiden name - District Leeds County Yorkshire Country England Volume 9B Page 407 Record set England & Wales Births 1837-2006
The birth certificate would give you his mother's name. On the GRO record of his birth there is no mother's maiden name given which usually indicates that the child is illigitimate.
Kath. x
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1 May 2020 16:58 |
Name: Mary Lawrance Age: 28 Estimated birth year: 1833 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: Edwin Lawrance Gender: Female Where born: Haven Bank, Lincolnshire, England Civil Parish: Leeds Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark Town: Leeds County/Island: Yorkshire Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Leeds Sub-registration district: West Leeds ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: Household schedule number: 171 Piece: 3389 Folio: 40 Page Number: 36 Household Members: Name Age Edwin Lawrance 34 Mary Lawrance 28 John E Lawrance 4 Sarah E Lawrance 2 Maria Lawrance 1 John Efron 32 Johana Efron 31
LAWRENCE, MARIA HALL GRO Reference: 1860 J Quarter in LEEDS Volume 09B Page 416
EDWIN Last name LAWRENCE Marriage quarter 4 Marriage year 1854 Registration month -
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EDWIN LAWRENCE married one of these people
Rebecca Harrison, Marey Hall District Leeds District number -
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ErikaH
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1 May 2020 17:03 |
His mother’s surname was Lawrence
He invented a father when he married
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Valerie
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1 May 2020 17:19 |
A huge thank you to every one for your responses. Re Lincoln Hadley Lawrence.
The invented father could be the reason on his marriage certificate says father was a mechanic? This trade is not shown on any family member until much later into the 1900s.
Thank you. Val. :-D
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Valerie
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1 May 2020 17:46 |
Hi, Hope I've managed to thank everyone correctly.
Val. :-S
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safc
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1 May 2020 18:56 |
????
has this got something do with
Births Mar 1887 (>99%) Lawrence Lincoln Hadley Leeds 9b 407 Scan available - click to view Lawrence Lincoln Ladley Leeds 9b 407
Record Transcription: 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Napier Street, Leeds, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Household Members Members that resided in the household at the time of the census. First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Mary E Ladley Head - Female 31 1840 - Yorkshire, England Emma Ladley Daughter - Female 10 1861 - Yorkshire, England William Ladley Son - Male 8 1863 - Yorkshire, England Lincoln Ladley Son - Male 5 1866 - Yorkshire, England xxx
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1 May 2020 19:05 |
Record Transcription: 1911 Census For England & Wales
10 Compton Street Stanley Road Leeds, Leeds, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England Household Members Members that resided in the household at the time of the census. First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Lincoln Ladley Head Married Male 44 1867 Motor Mechanic Engineer's Fitter Gildersome Yorks xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Sarah Ladley Wife Married Female 44 1867 - Crew Cheshire Margaret Ladley Daughter Single Female 18 1893 Machine Feeder Leeds Yorks Lily Ladley Daughter Single Female 12 1899 Attend School Leeds Yorks Mary Elizabeth Ladley Daughter Single Female 10 1901 Attend School Leeds Yorks Arthur Ladley Son Single Male 2 1909 -
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alviegal
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1 May 2020 20:54 |
Oh well done safc. That has to be his father surely! He married in 1886 so maybe didn't accept young Lincoln as his. So Maria, Ada, Lucy or Annie M could be his mother. Definitely need the birth certificate.
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