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ErikaH
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26 Apr 2020 19:00 |
Easily done
my mention of the GRO was relating to the confirmation of Elizabeth’s death as the age is on the GRO site before it shows on freebmd, which is from 1869 on.
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26 Apr 2020 18:53 |
Thanks again Erika and thanks to you too Maddie.
I did know about the GRO index Erika, that was my starting point and I found them in the 1851 census with Elizabeth's son William Batten but stupidly I then picked up on the other George not even considering that Elizabeth's husband might have died before 1871. So thanks again for helping to sort out my mistake :-D
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26 Apr 2020 17:54 |
ELIZABETH Last name HUNT Birth year 1809 Baptism year 1809 Baptism day 10 Baptism month Aug Son or daughter Daughter Father's first name(s) Andrew Mother's first name(s) Elizabeth Parish SHERFIELD ENGLISH County Hampshire Country England Notes bn 28 Jun, of Wellow
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Name: Elizabeth Croswell Age: 42 Estimated birth year: abt 1809 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: George Croswell Gender: Female Where born: West Wellow, Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Newbury County/Island: Berkshire Country: England
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26 Apr 2020 16:23 |
could this be his father William Eleazer Last name Batten Age 29 Birth year 1807 Residence Stroud Green Death year 1836 Burial year 1836 Burial date 24 Jul 1836 Church St Mary Place Greenham County Berkshire Country England
William Last name Batten Birth year - Marriage year 1834 Marriage date 01 Feb 1834 Church St Mary Place Greenham County Berkshire Country England Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth Spouse's last name Hunt ----------------- Licence or banns By Banns Record set Berkshire Marriages Index
the son 1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Kings Road, Reading, Berkshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William E Batten Head Married Male 54 1837 Tobacconist Newbury, Berkshire, England Emma Batten Wife Married Female 51 1840 - Witney, Oxfordshire, England Harold Batten Son Single Male 18 1873 Baker Newbury, Berkshire, England Maud E Batten Daughter Single Female 16 1875 - Newbury, Berkshire, England
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
West Combes Buildings, Newbury, Berkshire, England First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Elezear Batten Head Married Male 44 1837 Bootmaker Greenham, Berkshire, England Emma Batten Wife Married Female 41 1840 Bootmaker (Apprentice) Witney, Oxfordshire, England Winden James Batten Son Single Male 17 1864 Printer (App) Liverpool, Lancashire, England Harry Crosswell Batten Son Single Male 15 1866 Scholar Newbury, Berkshire, England Nellie Batten Daughter Single Female 12 1869 Scholar Newbury, Berkshire, England Harold Batten Son Single Male 8 1873 Scholar Newbury, Berkshire, England Maude Edith Batten Daughter Single Female 6 1875 Scholar Newbury, Berkshire, England
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26 Apr 2020 16:22 |
1861
Name: Elizabeth Cropwell Age: 53 Estimated birth year: 1808 Relation: Wife Spouse's name: George Cropwell Gender: Female Where born: Romsey, Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Newbury Town: Newbury County/Island: Berkshire Country: England Registration district: Newbury Sub-registration district: Newbury ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 13 Piece: 720 Folio: 96 Page Number: 2 Household Members: Name Age George Cropwell 43 Innkeeper, b,. Greenham Elizabeth Cropwell 53 Charles Skinner 38 Sarah Berry 21 Elizth Smith 19 George Hicks 30 Eliza Wildman 62 Abraham Turrell 35 Mary Ann Turrell 25
The enumerator used the 'fs' form of 'ss' which the transcriber has interpreted as 'p'
So George DID change his occupation - but not to labourer
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26 Apr 2020 16:17 |
Elizabeth's son in 1861
Name: William Batton Age: 24 Estimated birth year: 1837 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Emma Batton Gender: Male Where born: Newbury, Berkshire, England Civil Parish: Birmingham Ecclesiastical parish: Bishop Ryder Town: Birmingham County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England Registration district: Birmingham Sub-registration district: St Mary ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Neighbors: View others on page Household schedule number: 171 Piece: 2155 Folio: 119 Page Number: 30 Household Members: Name Age William Batton 24 Emma Batton 21 Alice Henrietta Batton 1
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ErikaH
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26 Apr 2020 16:12 |
The man you've posted the link for was a labourer
Is it likely a shoemaker would change his occupation so radically?
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26 Apr 2020 16:07 |
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First name(s) George Last name Crosswell Age 47 Birth year 1818 Residence Greenham, Graham's Cottages Death year 1865 Burial year 1865 Burial date 21 Jun 1865 Church St John the Evangelist Place Newbury County Berkshire
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26 Apr 2020 16:05 |
Elizabeth Last name Crosswell Age 55 Birth year 1807 Residence Newbury Death year 1862 Burial year 1862 Burial date 03 Feb 1862 Church St Nicolas Place Newbury County Berkshire Country England Record set Berkshire Burial Index
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26 Apr 2020 16:02 |
CROSSWELL, ELIZABETH 55 GRO Reference: 1862 M Quarter in NEWBURY Volume 02C Page 144
Thought you would know about the GRO index ;-) ;-)
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26 Apr 2020 15:59 |
Thanks Erika that's great! Now trying to establish if this death is Elizabeth's
Deaths Mar 1862 Crosswell Elizabeth Newbury 2c 144
and if this is George off with another woman before Elizabeth died.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFXJ-T3S
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26 Apr 2020 15:53 |
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First name(s) William Eleazer Last name Batten Age 29 Birth year 1807 Residence Stroud Green Death year 1836 Burial year 1836 Burial date 24 Jul 1836 Church St Mary Place Greenham County Berkshire Country England Record set Berkshire Burial Index
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26 Apr 2020 15:45 |
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Market Place, Bear Yard, Newbury St Nicholas, Newbury, Berkshire, England
George Croswell Head Married Male 33 1818 Shoemaker Greenham, Berkshire, England Elizabeth Croswell Wife Married Female 42 1809 - West Wellow, Hampshire, England Thomas Warner Visitor Unmarried Male 24 1827 Sawyer Newbury, Berkshire, England Frederick Rowell Visitor Unmarried Male 25 1826 Printer Newbury, Berkshire, England William Batten Son In Law Unmarried Male 14 1837 Shoemaker Greenham, Berkshire, England
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26 Apr 2020 15:42 |
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census Back Lane, Newbury, Berkshire, England
George Crosswell Male 20 1821 Berkshire, England Elizabeth Crosswell Female 30 1811 - Thomas Crosswell Male 5 1836 Berkshire, England William Batten Male 0 1841 Berkshire, England Thomas Whiting Male 20 1821 Berkshire, England
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26 Apr 2020 15:39 |
First marriage ??
First name(s) William Last name Batten Birth year - Marriage year 1834 Marriage date 01 Feb 1834 Church St Mary Place Greenham County Berkshire Country England Spouse's first name(s) Elizabeth Spouse's last name Hunt Licence or banns By Banns Record set Berkshire Marriages Index Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Marriages Collections from Great Britain, England
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26 Apr 2020 15:35 |
First name(s) Elizabeth Last name Batten Age full age Birth year - Marital status Widow Occupation Servant Residence Newbury Marriage year 1839 Marriage date 21 Dec 1839 Church St Nicolas Place Newbury County Berkshire Country England Spouse's first name(s) George Spouse's last name Henneh Spouse's age full age Spouse's marital status Bachelor Spouse's occupation Shoemaker Spouse's residence Newbury Father's first name(s) Andrew Father's last name Hunt Spouse's father's first name(s) Jene[?] Spouse's father's last name HENNEH Signed Signed: (x) Spouse signed Signed: George CROSSWELL****************************** Licence or banns Banns Witnesses Thomas LLOYD; Ann SWINDEN Additional information [Officiating Minister] H BRINNEY
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26 Apr 2020 15:28 |
Hi, Please can someone post the details for the following marriage:
Elizabeth Batten + George Henneh 1839 in Newbury
Freebmd only shows 1 Elizabeth Batten marriage in Newbury in 1839 and the only George recorded on the same page is George Crosswell so wondering if there's been some sort of mistake, also interested in finding out if Elizabeth was a widow.
TIA Tigit
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