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Anthony

Anthony Report 24 Apr 2020 11:42

Please can anyone help,

A while back someone on GENES REUNITED informed me of a marriage between JAMES HILL and ELIZABETH BESWICK on 17 June 1932 as being the parents of RICHARD HILL who was married to Maria WARING,

But I belong to a CARERS group . Who meet once a month before the virus. and they use ANCESTRY, and whilst on there I was tracing the HILL surname and came across Richard HILL married to WARING. but 7 or 8 people had matching trees and they had

WILLIAM HILL married to MARGARET HARRINGTON married 20 Jan 1839

Can anyone please help me so that I do not trace the wrong line

Many thanks

Anthony HILL

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Apr 2020 11:54

How do you link two marriages which are more than a century apart?

Ignore trees on Ancestry unless they have documents to back up their info

If you've had info given to you on here, you must have another thread. One per topic is the rule

To avoid making mistakes, start with yourself, and work backwards - very carefully

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Apr 2020 12:02

For location info - VITAL

Name: William Hill
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: Full Age
Event Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 20 Jan 1839
Marriage Place: Everton, St George, Lancashire, England
Father: John Hill
Spouse: Margaret Harrington
Father: Edward Harrington

Maddie

Maddie Report 24 Apr 2020 12:04

so richard hill married maria ellen waring in 1896 fylde

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Apr 2020 12:05

If you want to know his father's name and occupation - get a copy of this cert

HILL Richard WARING Maria Ellen 1896 Old Fylde Register Office or Registrar Attended Blackpool OFY/21/24

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Apr 2020 12:06

Name: Richard Hill
Age: 45
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Maria Ellen Hill
Birth Place: Salford, Lancashire, England
Civil Parish: Blackpool
Ecclesiastical parish: Marton St Paul
Town: Blackpool
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Fylde
Sub-registration district: Blackpool
ED, institution, or vessel: 36
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 3974
Folio: 186
Page Number: 7
Household schedule number: 36
Household Members:
Name Age
Richard Hill 45
Maria Ellen Hill 25

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Apr 2020 12:08

From the GRO site - FREE to all

HILL, RICHARD (MMN) HARRINGTON
GRO Reference: 1855 S Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 50

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Apr 2020 12:09

I'm guessing you didn't actually mean 1932........................................... ;-) ;-) ;-)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Apr 2020 12:12

HILL, HANNAH HARRINGTON
GRO Reference: 1840 J Quarter in WEST DERBY Volume 20 Page 910

HILL, WILLIAM HARRINGTON
GRO Reference: 1844 D Quarter in THE SALFORD UNION Volume 20 Page 776

HILL, MARTHA HARRINGTON
GRO Reference: 1842 J Quarter in THE SALFORD UNION Volume 20 Page 813

HILL, SARAH HARRINGTON
GRO Reference: 1848 D Quarter in SALFORD Volume 20 Page 792

HILL, EDWARD HARRINGTON
GRO Reference: 1846 D Quarter in THE SALFORD UNION Volume 20 Page 887

HILL, JAMES HARRINGTON
GRO Reference: 1853 M Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 48

HILL, MARY ANNE HARRINGTON
GRO Reference: 1851 M Quarter in SALFORD Volume 20 Page 949

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Apr 2020 12:13

1861

Name: Richard Hill
Age: 5
Estimated birth year: 1856
Relation: Son
Father's name: William Hill
Mother's name: Margret Hill
Gender: Male
Where born: Salford
Civil Parish: Salford
Ecclesiastical parish: Holy Trinity
Town: Salford
County/Island: Lancashire
Country: England
Registration district: Salford
Sub-registration district: Greengate
ED, institution, or vessel: 21
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 121
Piece: 2914
Folio: 59
Page Number: 24
Household Members:
Name Age
William Hill 43
Margret Hill 42.........................born Shropshire
Hannah Hill 21
William Hill 16
Edward Hill 14
Sarah Hill 12
James Hill 8
Richard Hill 5
Martha Hill 3

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Apr 2020 12:16

Name: Margaret Harrington
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 26 Apr 1818
Baptism Place: Clive, Shropshire, England
Father: Edward Harrington
Mother: Hannah Harrington
FHL Film Number: 1657547
Reference ID: item 18-27 p 27

Name: Edward Harrington
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 12 Jun 1810
Marriage Place: Holy Cross and Saint Giles,Shrewsbury,Shropshire,England
Spouse: Hannah Pritchard
FHL Film Number: 510674

Name: Jane Harrington
Gender: Female
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 22 Nov 1812
Baptism Place: Shropshire, England
Father: Edw. Harrington
Mother: Hannah Harrington

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Apr 2020 13:33

HILL, RICHARD BESWICK
GRO Reference: 1861 M Quarter in SALFORD Volume 08D Page 93

NOT the man who married Waring - IMO - unless he added years to his age, which would hardly seem feasible, as he was so much older than her anyway

Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1873
Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference
WARING Maria Ellen BANKS 1873 Poulton-le-Fylde Blackpool PLF/29/58

Of course, if you want to know without ANY doubt, buy a copy of the 1896 marriage cert

Maddie

Maddie Report 24 Apr 2020 14:43

Name: Maria E Hill
Death Age: 67
Birth Date: abt 1872
Registration Date: Jul 1939
[Aug 1939]
[Sep 1939]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Blackpool
Inferred County: Lancashire
Volume: 8e
Page: 806

yet 1911 where richard was lving with the waring family gives his age as 50 born 1861 and maria as 37 so quite a gap in age

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 24 Apr 2020 15:02

In view of these previous threads, I'm not holding my breath for any feedback

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1359709

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1353068

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1349997

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/general_chat/thread/1353067

Maddie

Maddie Report 24 Apr 2020 15:17

oh blow

Anthony

Anthony Report 25 Apr 2020 01:52

Thank you to everyone who kindly replied to my question.

However, I am still at a loss as to where BESWICK comes into the family tree.

Please see below.

Anthony Hill
Kenneth Hill ( born 1934 - died 2000)
Norman Hill. ( born 1906
Richard Hill. ( born 1855 - died 1929 )
William Hill. ( born 1818 - died 1870)
John Hill. ( born 1790 - died 1867)

Norman Hill (Marr). Dorothy Evelyn INGLEBY 13 Aug 1927
Richard Hill. (Marr) Maria Ellen WARING. 1896
William Hill. (Marr) Margaret HARRINGTON 20 Jan 1839
John Hill. ( Marr). Hannah STONEHEWER






ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Apr 2020 08:38

Simple answer, IMO. In your direct line,it doesn’t

Please remove your D O B. Asking for trouble.

Maddie

Maddie Report 25 Apr 2020 12:08

i agree my mistake sorry have deleted posts

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 25 Apr 2020 12:16

No probs, Maddie

Your info helped to clarify the correct line, I think.