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17 Apr 2020 10:47 |
Rhode Island, Death Index, 1630-1930
Name: Ethel A Emslie Kin 1: - Emslie Kin 2: Mary Emsley Death Date: 5 Aug 1928 Age: 44 Yrs
Name: Ethel A Emslie Gender: Female Departure Date: 2 Aug 1910 Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Destination Port: New York, USA Ship Name: Lusitania Search Ship Database: Search for the Lusitania in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping Line: Cunard Line Official Number: 124682 Master: J L W Charles
Name: Mrs Ethel A Emslie Gender: Female Residence Year: 1924 Street address: 33 Georgia av Residence Place: Providence, Rhode Island, USA Occupation: Cashier Publication Title: Providence, Rhode Island, City Directory, 1924
ethel emslie a widow of john r Name: Ethel A Emslie Gender: Female Death Date: 5 Aug 1928 Spouse: John R Emslie Publication Title: Willimantic, Connecticut, City Directory, 1928
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17 Apr 2020 00:54 |
Looks like John and Ethel didn't have children:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS53-Q36R-R?cc=2622566&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3A78GD-GNT2
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16 Apr 2020 23:02 |
Ethel. Born as Agnes Ethel:
Name: Ethel Henderson Event Type: Census Event Date: 1891 Event Place: Lambeth, London, England, United Kingdom Event Place (Original): Lambeth, London, England Event Place Note: Wilcox Road County: London Parish: Lambeth Ecclesiastical Parish: ST BARNABAS SOUTH KENNINGTON Enumeration District: 26 Registration District: Lambeth Gender: Female Age: 7 Marital Status: Single Occupation: Scholar Birth Year (Estimated): 1884 Birthplace: London, England Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter Page Number: 16 Registration Number: RG12 Piece/Folio: 401/ 44 Affiliate Record Type: Household Affiliate Image Identifier: GBC/1891/0401/0088&parentid=GBC/1891/0003395349
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace Ernest Henderson Head M 32 Sussex, England Harriet Henderson Wife F 32 Devonshire, England Ethel Henderson Daughter F 7 London, England Kate Henderson Daughter F 5 London, England May Henderson Daughter F 3 London, England Annie Henderson Daughter F 0 London, England Emma Day Servant F 25 London, England
Household ID: 759535 Line Number: 3 GS Film Number: 101787603 Digital Folder Number: 101787603 Image Number: 00088
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16 Apr 2020 22:44 |
Nice one Rose !
So daughter Margaret died June Qtr 1907 and daughter Amy was born same Qtr. (May)
It was a pretty quick romance if he then married in October.
Had he already gone and Amy not his?
The first three children were born 1899, 1900 and 1901 then there's a gap to 1907.
Or working away from home, popped back 1906 time and then disappeared again
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16 Apr 2020 22:43 |
Name: Ethel Agnes Emslie Event Type: Immigration Event Date: 12 Aug 1910 Event Place: Ellis Island, New York City, New York, United States Event Place (Original): Ellis Island, New York City, New York, United States Residence Place: Cardiff, Wales Gender: Female Age: 26 Marital Status: Married Nationality: England, English Birth Year: 1884 Departure Port: Liverpool Ship Name: Lusitania Additional Person's Name: Mr Brown Additional Name Relationship: Father Second Additional Person's Name: Robert J Emslie Additional Name 2 Relationship: Husband Page Number: 48 Affiliate Line Number: 0026
Affiliate Publication Title: Passenger and Crew Lists of Vessels Arriving at New York , NY, 1897-1957 Affiliate Film Number: 1532 GS Film Number: 1400216 Digital Folder Number: 007673824 Image Number: 00101 Indexing Project (Batch) Number: P00140-6
Citing this Record "New York Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island), 1892-1924", database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGGG-58BY : 16 August 2019), Robert J Emslie in entry for Ethel Agnes Emslie, 1910.
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16 Apr 2020 22:35 |
Naughty boy. No wonder he left the country.
Name: John Robert Emslie Event Type: Marriage Event Date: 22 Oct 1907 Event Place: , Roath St German, Glamorgan, Wales Gender: Male Age: 28y Marital Status: Single Father's Name: John Emslie Spouse's Name: Ethel Agnes Henderson Spouse's Marital Status: Single Spouse's Father's Name: Ernest Henderson
Digital Folder Number: 004190045 Image Number: 00142
Citing this Record "Wales, Glamorgan, Parish Register Marriages, 1837-1922," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JV3N-XT2 : 10 February 2018), Ernest Henderson in entry for John Robert Emslie and Ethel Agnes Henderson, 22 Oct 1907; citing , Roath St German, Glamorgan, Wales, National Library, Aberystwyth; FHL microfilm 4,190,045.
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16 Apr 2020 22:34 |
@ Eliza in 1911
1911 Census For England & Wales 71 Thornton Road Thornhill Lees Dewsbury, Thornhill, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Boggitt Head Single Male 24 1887 Blacksmith Maker Yorks Hanging Heaton Eliza Emslie Housekeeper Married Female 30 1881 -
@ Son Ian is with Grandparents (posted)
@ Daughter Margaret (b 1901) died 1907
Surname First name(s) Age District Vol Page Deaths Jun 1907 (>99%) EMSLIE Margaret Roberts 6 Scarbro' 9d 243
@ Not seeing Amy 1911, but did she marry 1928?
Surname First name(s) Spouse District Vol Page Marriages Dec 1928 (>99%)
EMSLIE Amy JONES Hunslet 9b 999 JONES Lawrence Emslie Hunslet 9b 999
Amy Jones's life in 1939 26 Beverley Street, Leeds C.B., Yorkshire (West Riding), England
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number Lawrence Jones 30 Jun 1902 Male General Labourer Married 147 1 Amy Jones 09 May 1907 Female Unpaid Dom Dutie Married 147 2 The record for this person is officially closed. Brenda Crossland (Jones) 21 Apr 1936 Female At School Single 147 4 Ref: RG101/3482J/010/40 Letter Code: KGVL
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16 Apr 2020 22:23 |
Eliza was "housekeeper" to her future husband in 1911. Amy is not with her.
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16 Apr 2020 22:04 |
There was another child:
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: EMSLIE, AMY MOARING GRO Reference: 1907 J Quarter in SCARBOROUGH Volume 09D Page 399
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16 Apr 2020 20:24 |
The records look to be him - his parents are at 55 Hoxton Road in 1911
1911 Census For England & Wales
55 Hoxton Road Scarborough, Scarborough, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (North Riding), First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Emslie Head Married Male 55 1856 Engraver General Lanarkshire Glasgow Mary Emslie Wife Married Female 63 1848 - Aberdeen Newmacher Alexandra Sophia Emslie Daughter Single Female 24 1887 Milliner Yorkshire Scarboro Ian Robert Emslie Grandson Single Male 11 1900 School Yorkshire Scarboro
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16 Apr 2020 20:18 |
Further to the Naturalisation record John Robert Emslie of 33 Georgia Avenue, Providence (see also the 1921 census posted) Country of birth or allegiance - Aberdeen, Scotland Born 10 June 1882 Arrived New York 11 April 1910 Date naturalised - 1 Jan 1916 witnesses - Augustus H Stubbs, 8 E Becan Street, Prov and William C Waite, 40 prairie Avenue, Prov.
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16 Apr 2020 20:02 |
View New York, Passenger and Crew Lists (including Castle Garden and Ellis Island), 1820-1957
Name: John Robert Emslie Arrival Date: 11 Apr 1910 Birth Date: abt 1881 Birth Location: Scotland Birth Location Other: aberdeen Age: 28 Years 9 Months Gender: Male Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scottish (Scotish) Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Port of Arrival: New York, New York Ship Name: Baltic Search Ship Database: Search for the Baltic in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Save Cancel Source Citation Year: 1910; Arrival: New York, New York; Microfilm Serial: T715, 1897-1957; Microfilm Roll: Roll 1448; Line: 11; Page Number: 60
aged 28 years and 9 months. A Nurse. Scotch. Last residence England Column headed The name and complete address of nearest relative or friend in country whence alien came says - 55 Hoxton Hoad, Scarborough. R Ferguson
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16 Apr 2020 19:56 |
An Ancestry tree has him as a 33 a Machinist coming into England 1914.
He is going to 55 Hoxton Road, Scarborough
UK Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960 Name John Robert Emslie Arrival Age 33 Birth Dateable 1881 Port of Departure New York, New York, United States Arrival Date 27 Oct 1914 Port of Arrival Liverpool, England Ship Name Mauritania Shipping Line Cunard Steamship Company Ltd Official Number 124093 Search Ship Database Mauritania Household Members Name John Robert Emslie
------------------------------------- He returns to the USA as a 34 year old Machinist in January 1915
Name: John Robt Emslie Gender: Male Age: 34 Birth Date: abt 1881 Departure Date: 9 Jan 1915 Port of Departure: Liverpool, England Destination Port: New York, USA Ship Name: Transylvania Search Ship Database: Search for the Transylvania in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database Shipping Line: Cunard Line Official Number: 136331
Nationality - Gt Britain, Race or people - Scotch
Relative listed as Mrs Emslie, Mother, 55 Hoxton Rd, Scarborough
------------------------------ Ancestry links this to a Naturalisation Petition in 1910 Providence, Rhode Island of a man born 1882 Aberdeen
there is also a Passenger list of a John Emslie aged 21 travelling in June 1900 aged 21 an Engineer to New England
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16 Apr 2020 19:41 |
a possible but says born scotland
Name: Ian R Emslie Age: 38 Birth Year: abt 1882 Birthplace: Scotland Home in 1920: Providence Ward 6, Providence, Rhode Island Street: Georgia Avenue House Number: 33 Residence Date: 1920 Race: White Gender: Male Immigration Year: 1909 Relation to Head of House: Head Marital status: Married Spouse's name: Ethel A Emslie Father's Birthplace: Scotland Mother's Birthplace: Scotland Native Tongue: Scotch Able to Speak English: Yes Occupation: Foreman Industry: Nut and Bolt Mfg Employment Field: Wage or Salary Home Owned or Rented: Owned Home Free or Mortgaged: Mortgaged Naturalization Status: Naturalized Able to Read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Neighbors: Household Members: Name Age Ian R Emslie 38 Ethel A Emslie 36
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16 Apr 2020 19:36 |
His birth for our info Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: EMSLIE, JOHN ROBERT SIMPSON GRO Reference: 1879 S Quarter in SCARBOROUGH Volume 09D Page 355
------------------------- Children - Ian birth reg. Q4 1899, Margaret Q1 1901
And that of the youngest child
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: EMSLIE, LAWRENCE WILLIAM MOORING GRO Reference: 1902 J Quarter in SCARBOROUGH Volume 09D Page 397
So, if Lawrence was his then John could have disappeared any time from mid - latish in 1901 onwards after the 1901 census which he is on with the family.
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16 Apr 2020 18:00 |
I am researching my husband's Great Grandfather John Robert Emslie born in Scarborough in 1879 son of John and Mary Emslie. He married Eliza Mooring in 1899 and went on to have 3 children Ian, Margaret and Lawrence. The story in the family is that he went - without his family - to Canada where he died in 1921. We have a photograph that was sent back to England - we don't know by whom - of his gravestone. We do know that whilst in Canada he changed his Christian name to Ian and that he also joined the Caledonian Society. We do know that he was very proud of his Scottish heritage - his father was from Scotland. on the bottom of the gravestone it says "Aberdeen, Scotland". I am keen to find out when he went to Canada and what he did there and whether he had another family there. We do know that the wife he left behind here remarried after his death in 1921. I would be grateful for any information anyone can give or any pointers anyone can give as to how i can find out more. Many thanks in advance.
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