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Grandmother gone missing :)

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ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Apr 2020 16:25

Not an idiot by any means - just overlooked something Easy to do

NAOMI

NAOMI Report 14 Apr 2020 16:22

Haha haha
I’m such an idiot!!!!
Thank you for pointing the obvious out :)

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Apr 2020 15:27

William Matthews 13 Dec 1874 Male Labourer Water Works Heavy Worker Married 95 1
Annie M Matthews 11 Oct 1878 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 95 2
The record for this person is officially closed.
George Matthews 28 Jan 1920 Male Army Gunner Single 95 4

Simples! Too young to vote

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Apr 2020 15:25

When was he born?

NAOMI

NAOMI Report 14 Apr 2020 15:08

Erika, do you know why George Matthews is listed on 1939 reg and not on 1939 ER?
Could it be that he went to war because he was down as army gunman?

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 14 Apr 2020 13:56

The ER isn't redacted. The 1939 register is

NAOMI

NAOMI Report 14 Apr 2020 13:31

The other strange thing is I have found 2 separate registers from 1939.
One from electoral reg,
other from England & Wales Reg.

Both have same address 8 Alfred Terrace

1939 England & Wales reg has:
William Matthews
Annie M Matthews
RECORD OFFICIALLY CLOSED
George Matthews

1939 Electoral Register has:
William Matthews
Annie M Matthews
Nellie Enid Matthews

Can anyone explain this?

NAOMI

NAOMI Report 14 Apr 2020 13:21

I think you’re right Argyll/Gran. This makes it even more difficult to trace :(

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Apr 2020 13:05

I would guess that she had been living, unmarried, with a Newcombe before marrying Peter Thomas, and had been using Mr Newcombe's name, but was still officially Matthews.

NAOMI

NAOMI Report 14 Apr 2020 13:04

@ Shirley, regarding your info:

as that birth was Birmingham this could also be a possible

Marriages Sep 1903
HUGHES Annie Maria Aston 6d 492
Matthews William Aston 6d 492

This is new info, great thanks :)


NAOMI

NAOMI Report 14 Apr 2020 13:01

@ Shirley, my dads mum left my dad and his 2 brothers, they ended up in care homes. Peter Thomas died before I was born.

Thanks for this help guys, it looks as though I am on right track :)
Any further help anyone can give would be amazing

NAOMI

NAOMI Report 14 Apr 2020 12:57

@ Shirley, I found that info from the 1911 census, obviously she isn’t on it as she was born 1915
But I have found a 1939 electoral reg.
District: Olser st
Address: 8 Alfred Terrace
William Matthews
Annie Marie
Nellie Enid

I also have found 1939 England & Wales register

Name: William Matthews
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 13 Dec 1874
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 8
Residence Place: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England
Occupation: Labourer Water Works Heavy Worker
Schedule Number: 95
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: QAPC
Registration district: 384/4
Inferred Spouse: Annie M Matthews
Household Members:
Name
William Matthews
Annie M Matthews
This record is officially closed.
George Matthews

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Apr 2020 12:56

Re the 1915 birth in Birmingham:

With William Matthews and Annie Maria Matthews, at 8 Alfred Terrace.
There's also a Minnie Matthews at 9 Alfred Terrace. That might be meant to be 9 Alfred Terrace).

Nellie Enid Matthews
in the Midlands, England, Electoral Registers, 1832-1955
Name: Nellie Enid Matthews
Residence Year: 1939
Ward or Division/Constituency: Ladywood
Residence Place: Birmingham, Warwickshire, England


Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 14 Apr 2020 12:52

???
date of birth would fit the birth reg

Deaths Mar 1972
THOMAS Nellie Enid 10Oc1915 Poplar 5d 1556

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 14 Apr 2020 12:52

You say "unusually it says she was a spinster???"

That's not unusual at all - it just means she hadn't been married before.

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 14 Apr 2020 12:50

what happened to her did they part?

is peter thomas still alive to ask

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 14 Apr 2020 12:44

another child

Births Sep 1911
MATTHEWS May Hughes Aston 6d 520

NAOMI

NAOMI Report 14 Apr 2020 12:43

@ Erika H, yes marriage was in Liverpool. I have my dads birth cert and his name is Kenneth P C Thomas. His mothers name on the birth cert says: Nellie Enid Newcombe (formerly) Matthews

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 14 Apr 2020 12:42

1911 census
Name: William Matthews
Age in 1911: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1876
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: West Bromwich
Civil Parish: Aston
Search Photos: Search for 'Aston' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: Warwickshire
Country: England
Street address: 63 C 1 House Cromwell St Bham
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Rubber Worker
Registration district: Aston
Registration District Number: 385
Sub-registration district: Duddeston
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Piece: 18249
Household Members:
Name Age
William Matthews 35
Annie Maria Matthews 32
Martha Matthews 4
Emily Matthews 2

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 14 Apr 2020 12:40

as that birth was Birmingham this could also be a possible

Marriages Sep 1903
HUGHES Annie Maria Aston 6d 492
Matthews William Aston 6d 492