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Hi sorry just reading more than just glancing at things as don't get much time due too work.

Thanks for the info. :-)

I give up!!!!!!!!

Hi as Thomas was a name used in the Saunders Family from at least 1670 in the Area of Wing and Ivinhoe there are quite a few. The name Thomas has been used in my side since 1670 My fathers middle name was Thomas so was mine and also my son, The Thomas i am searching married Lydia Bedford from Pottern End,

Deaths Mar 1962 (>99%)
SAUNDERS Thomas 79 Berkhamsted 4b 1

Name: Thomas Saunders
Death Date: 13 Jan 1962
Death Place: Hertfordshire, Hertford, England
Probate Date: 28 Feb 1962
Probate Registry: London, England
Probate to LYDIA

Get a copy to see if any children are mentioned


Marriages Mar 1964 (96%)
POCOCK FRANK SAUNDERS BERKHAMSTED 4B 29
SAUNDERS LYDIA POCOCK BERKHAMSTED 4B 29

Deaths Jun 1972 (>99%)
POCOCK Lydia 31Mr1887 H.Hempstead 4b 278

D O B is wrongly transcribed on Ancestry version of 1939 register. It is actually 31 March. I have notified Ancestry

FMP is accurate

Thomas Saunders 07 Feb 1882 Male Confectioner & Tobacconist Retired Married 188 1
Lydia Saunders 31 Mar 1887 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 188 2

Name: Lydia Pocock
Death Date: 9 May 1972
Death Place: Hertfordshire
Probate Date: 13 Jul 1972
Probate Registry: Oxford

Died at same address as first husband, so second husband must have moved in

There doesn’t appear to be any logical link between the man on UK censuses and an Australian farmer

You still haven’t told us when they died - or where

Hi thanks for reply. Thomas was my Fathers Uncle, The photo is sometime Late 1920s don't know how old boys were. It was said that they had sold a farm and were moving too another farm. also seen that someone had put that him and his wife were in Kent in 1939 Residence Place: Herne Bay, Kent, England. Address: Lyndale, Poplar.Drive

A member named Raymond has Thomas in his GR tree

Try making contact to see if he knows anything

Two members (not Raymond, though) have Lydia in GR trees

Again, try making contact

The marriage was actually 1907 - merely not recorded at GRO until 1908

Name: Thomas Saunders
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 29 Dec 1907
Marriage Place: Great Berkhampstead, Hertford, England
Spouse: Lydia Bedford
FHL Film Number: 1537868
Reference ID: item 1 p 85

Well 1939 posted above confirms that he had a sweet shop at some stage, and 1911 that he was a Tennis Hoop Maker

You didn’t say when they died - or where

There is NO record of their having children which can be found in UK records.

NO records of travel for them

What is the date of the photo you say is of this couple? What would you estimate to be the ages of the boys in the photo?

How was your father related to them?

Hi Yes i have the right people, Jan might have been a nickname, The reason i need after 1920 is i have info before this date but nothing after. From info i have they had Son's according too a photo i have as it says inside Tom, Jan and Sons this was a pic of Tom Plowing a field in Australia. But he was a Hoop maker and my Father always said he owed a sweet shop in Berkhampstead at some point

You’ve been given 1939, which is the only record available after 1911, other than BMD and ER

If Thomas married Lydia, who is Jan? Do you have the right people?

They married in 1908 - just for info as the record posted above is undated

When did they die?

What is the significance of 1920?

Thank you all, I do have most of the info, the info i'm looking for is after 1920 till they died, The family thought they went too Australia as i have a pic of them there and says love from Tom Jan and Boys. It does appear they returned too UK though as info says Kent.

If you mean Thomas's birth, malyon, this will be it:

SAUNDERS, THOMAS mms COPELL
GRO Reference: 1882 M Quarter in LEIGHTON BUZZARD Volume 03B Page 397

Leighton Buzzard RD included Ivinghoe.

not findin g any births in buckinghamshire

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BEDFORD Lydia Berkhampstead 3a 961 Scan available - click to view
SAUNDERS Thomas Berkhampstead 3a 961 Scan available - click to

Just a wee discrepancy on his date of birth compared to the 1939 register.

National School Admission Registers & Log-Books 1870-1914

First name(s) Thomas
Last name Saunders
Birth year 1882
>>Birth date 15 Feb 1882
Event year 1886
School name Ivinghoe Aston National School
Town Ivinghoe
County Buckinghamshire
Country England
Parent name(s) Alfred Saunders
Book type Admissions

Have you looked at freebmd?

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Thomas Saunders
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Thomas Saunders
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 7 Feb 1882
Residence Year: 1939
Address: Lyndale, Poplar.Drive
Residence Place: Herne Bay, Kent, England
Occupation: Confectioner & Tobaconist Retired
Schedule Number: 188
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: DHXQ
Registration district: Part of 59-1
Inferred Spouse: Lydia Saunders
Household Members:
Name
Thomas Saunders
Lydia Saunders - 3 March 1887

No closed records with them

If they stayed in the area, not seeing any children born to them?

Rose

1911:

Name: Thomas Saunders
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1911
Event Place: Sunnyside, Hertfordshire, England, United Kingdom
County: Hertfordshire
Parish: Sunnyside
Sub-District: Berkhampstead
Sub-District Number: 1
District Number: 142
Enumeration District: 8
Registration District: Berkhampstead
Gender: Male
Age: 29
Marital Status: Married
Marital Status (Original): MARRIED
Occupation: TENNIS HOOP MAKER
Industry: TIMBER MERCHANT
Number in Family: 2
Birth Year (Estimated): 1882
Birthplace: Ivinhoe Bucks, Buckinghamshire
Relationship to Head of Household: Wife
Schedule Type: 145
Page Number: 1
Registration Number: RG14
Piece/Folio: 351
Affiliate Record Identifier: GBC/1911/RG14/07774/0351/1


Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Thomas Saunders Wife M 29 Ivinhoe Bucks, Buckinghamshire
Lydia Saunders Wife F 24 Pottenend Gt Berkhamstead, Hertfordshire

Record Type: Household
Line Number: 1

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