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1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census

31, Benyon Road, Hackney, London & Middlesex, England
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Household Members
Members that resided in the household at the time of the census.
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William Bird McNeil Head Married Male 28 1833 Manchester Warehouseman Scotland
A S McNeil Wife Married Female 27 1834 - Hackney, Middlesex, England
Alice McNeil Daughter - Female 4 1857 Scholar Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
A H McNeil Son - Male 2 1859 - Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
F W McNeil Son - Male 0 1861 - Hackney, Middlesex, England
Euphemia Woods McNeil Sister - Female 23 1838 Dressmaker Scotland

1881 England Census

Name: Phoebe McNiel
Age: 43
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
Relationship to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Scotland
Civil Parish: Clapham
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 26 Lillieshall Rd<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Education:
Employment status:

Occupation: Dressmaker
Registration district: Wandsworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors:
Piece: 631
Folio: 66
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Phoebe McNiel 43
Emma Bates 42
Arthur H. McNiel 22
Edith Venes 20
Louisa Crocombe 14

View London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932

Name: William Baird McNeil
Gender: Male
Record Type: Banns (Bann)
Marriage Banns Date: 20 Jan 1856
Marriage Banns Place: St Mary, Islington, Islington, England
Spouse: Alice Sarah Harris
Register Type: Parish Register

From image - Bachelor / Spinster Both of this Parish

Banns read 6 /13 /20 January 1856

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View London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932

Name: William Baird McNeil
Gender: Male
Record Type: Banns (Bann)
Marriage Banns Date: 20 Jan 1856
Marriage Banns Place: St Mary, Islington, Islington, England
Spouse: Alice Sarah Harris
Register Type: Parish Register

From image -
Both of full age.
He is a commercial Clerk
Both of 6 Northampton Road.
Fathers - John Daniel McNeil a Sailor and William Harris a Tailor
Witnesses - J Snow and Th Snow

I wonder if Euphemia in 1861 census above is Phoebe ? She's a dressmaker.

However, I don't see baptisms for William , Euphemia, or Phoebe on SP.


Sarah Wood in 1861 is not in the same household - she lives next door.

Name: William Baird Mc Neil
Gender: Male
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 27 Jan 1856
Marriage Place: St Mary, Islington, Islington, England
Father: John Daniel Mc Neil - Mariner
Spouse: Alice Sarah Harris

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Mar 1856 (>99%)
Coppock John Islington 1b 235
HARRIS Alice Sarah Islington 1b 235 <<<<<<<<<
McNeil William Baird Islington 1b 235 <<<<<<<<<<
Meloney Mary Ann Islington 1b 235

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
MCNEIL, ARTHUR HARRIS HARRIS
GRO Reference: 1859 M Quarter in SHOREDITCH Volume 01C Page 177

1861

Name: William Bird McNeil
Age: 28
Estimated birth year: 1833
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: A S McNeil
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland
Civil Parish: Hackney St John
Ecclesiastical parish: West Hackney
County/Island: Middlesex
Country: England
Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
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Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: West Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Neighbors: View others on page
Household schedule number: 326
Piece: 156
Folio: 173
Page Number: 62
Household Members:
Name Age
William Bird McNeil 28
A S McNeil 27
Alice McNeil 4
A H McNeil 2
F W McNeil 6/12
Euphemia Woods McNeil 23
Sarah Wood 61

1881
Name: Phoebe McNiel
Age: 43
Estimated birth year: abt 1838
Relationship to Head: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Scotland
Civil Parish: Clapham
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 26 Lillieshall Rd
Education:
Employment status:
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Occupation: Dressmaker
Registration district: Wandsworth
ED, institution, or vessel: 3
Neighbors:
Piece: 631
Folio: 66
Page Number: 6
Household Members:
Name Age
Phoebe McNiel 43
Emma Bates 42
Arthur H. McNiel 22
Edith Venes 20
Louisa Crocombe 14

Name: Alice Sarah Harris
Gender: Female
Record Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 27 Jan 1856
Marriage Place: St Mary, Islington, Islington, England
Father: William Harris
Spouse: William Baird Mc Neil
Register Type: Parish Register

1871

Name: William McNiel
Age: 38
Estimated birth year: 1833
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Scotland
Civil Parish: Hackney
Ecclesiastical parish: West Hackney
County/Island: London
Country: England
Registration district: Hackney
Sub-registration district: West Hackney
ED, institution, or vessel: 19
Household schedule number: 386
Piece: 320
Folio: 31
Page Number: 61
Household Members:
Name Age
William McNiel 38
Alice McNiel 38
McNiel 15
Arthur McNiel 12
Francis McNiel 20
Henry McNiel 7
Catharine McNiel 6
Wally McNiel 3
Archibald McNiel 1/12
Margaret Eyles 51
Mary Collins 19

Name: Arthur Harris McNeil
Gender: Male
Record Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 13 Mar 1859
Baptism Place: Hoxton St John, Hackney, England
Father: William Baird McNeil
Mother: Alice Sarah McNeil

On familysearch AG

Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Phoebe Mcniel Head Female 43 Scotland
Emma Bates Partner Female 42 Kennington, Surrey, England
Arthur H Mcniel Neph Male 22 Hoxton, Middlesex, England
Edith Venes Servant Female 20 Wandsworth, Surrey, England

McNiel here - not McNeil as your OP or McNeill as per your title

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
26, Lillieshall Road, Clapham, Wandsworth, London & Surrey, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Phoebe McNiel Head Single Female 43 1838 Dressmaker Scotland
Emma Bates Partner Single Female 42 1839 Dressmaker Kennington, Surrey, England
Arthur H McNiel Neph Single Male 22 1859 Commercial Clerk Drapery Hoxton, Middlesex, England
Edith Venes Servant Single Female 20 1861 General Serv Wandsworth, Surrey, England
Louisa Crocombe Servant Single Female 14 1867 General Serv Wandsworth, Surrey, England

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Name: Phoebe McNiel
Age: 53
Record Type: Burial
Birth Date: abt 1837
Death Date: abt 1890
Burial Date: 23 Dec 1890
Burial Place: Norwood Cemetery, Norwood Road, Lambeth, Lambeth, England
Register Type: Bishop's Transcript
Comments: Reused graves at Norwood; see the database description for a link for more information.

I'm not seeing that 1881 census on Ancestry.

Can you copy/paste it, please?

The 1871 posted by Erika isn't showing up for me on Ancestry either.

EDIT:
Oh yes, got it now.

1871
Manor Street, Clapham, Wandsworth, London & Surrey, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Phoebe McNeil Head - Female 33 1838 - Lancashire, England LIVERPOOL
Emma Bates - - Female 32 1839 - Surrey, England
Harry C McNeil Nephew - Male 7 1864 - Middlesex, England

1841

Infant Orphan Asylum, St John At Hackney, Hackney, London & Middlesex, England

First name(s) Phoebe
Last name McNeil
Sex Female
Age 3
Birth year 1838
Birth county -
Birth county as transcribed NOT KNOWN
Birth place (other) Not Known
House name -
House number -
Street Infant Orphan Asylum
Parish / township St John At Hackney

in the London, England, Workhouse Admission and Discharge Records, 1764-1930
Workhouse Admission and Discharge Records, 1764-1930

Name: Pheobe Neill
Admission Age: 18
Record Type: Admission
Birth Date: abt 1839
Admission Date: 28 Jan 1857
Admission Place: Southwark, Southwark, London, England

I have an Phoebe McNeil 1838 who is the partner of Emma Bates she was born Scotland and lived in 1881 at lillies Road Wandsworth
I m looking for info on Phoebe I know she was a Dressmaker and had a Nephew living with her in 1881 called Arthur H McNeil …..Thank you