Does anyone have any information on Ellener derbyshire . She was my grandfathers 13th child . My grandfather was Solomon derbyshire . All I can find out is she was born in 1907 nothing afther that regards Marlene sawyer { derbyshire}
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Where in the world was this?
OK - looked it up
1911 census
Solomon Derbyshire Head Married Male 47 1864 Coal Miner Hewer Lancs Standish Sarah E Derbyshire Wife Married Female 48 1863 - Lancs Upholland Emma Derbyshire Daughter Single Female 25 1886 At Home Lancs Standish William Derbyshire Son Single Male 23 1888 Coal Miner Labourer Below Ground Lancs Wigan Sam Derbyshire Son Single Male 21 1890 Colliery Labour Below Ground Lancs Leigh Percy Derbyshire Son Single Male 17 1894 Colliery Labour Below Ground Lancs Leigh Elsie Derbyshire Daughter Single Female 15 1896 General Servant Day Domestic Lancs Leigh George Derbyshire Son Single Male 11 1900 School Lancs Leigh Sarah E Derbyshire Daughter - Female 8 1903 - Lancs Leigh Ellener Derbyshire Daughter - Female 4 1907 - Lancs Leigh
Looks like she was Solomon's grand-daughter as there is NO mother's maiden name on birth record. DERBYSHIRE, ELEANOR - GRO Reference: 1906 S Quarter in LEIGH Volume 08C Page 310
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DERBYSHIRE, PERCY KIRBY GRO Reference: 1894 J Quarter in LEIGH Volume 08C Page 295
DERBYSHIRE, SARAH KIRBY GRO Reference: 1903 M Quarter in LEIGH Volume 08C Page 322
Confirmation of info Name: Solomon Darbyshire Gender: Male Age: 20 Birth Year: abt 1864 Event Type: Marriage Event Date: 3 May 1884 Parish: Standish, St Wilfrid, Lancashire, England Spouse: Sarah Ellen Kirby Spouse Age: 21 Father: William Darbyshire Spouse Father: Thomas Kirby
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Maybe ???
Jesse Bent in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005 Name: Jesse Bent Registration Date: Jul 1951 [Aug 1951] [Sep 1951] Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration district: Leigh Inferred County: Lancashire Spouse: Eleanor Derbyshire <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Volume Number: 10d Page Number: 53
??? Jesse Bent in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name: Jesse Bent Registration Year: 1905 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district: Leigh Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 8c Page: 255
Eleanor Bent in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Eleanor Bent Death Age: 76 Birth Date: 8 Aug 1906 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Registration Date: Jan 1983 [Feb 1983] [Mar 1983] Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration district: Leigh Inferred County: Greater Manchester Volume: 39 Page: 2593
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From the FREE LancsBMD site
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1889 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference DARBYSHIRE Sam KIRBY 1889 Westleigh Wigan & Leigh WL/39/293
Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1891 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference DERBYSHIRE Elizabeth Ellen KIRBY 1891 Westleigh Wigan & Leigh WL/43/250 Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1894 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference DERBYSHIRE Percy KIRBY 1894 Westleigh Wigan & Leigh WL/47/76 Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1895 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference DERBYSHIRE Elsie KIRBY 1895 Leigh Wigan & Leigh L/1/455 Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1897 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference DERBYSHIRE Eleanor KIRBY 1897 Leigh Wigan & Leigh L/5/393 Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1899 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference DERBYSHIRE George KIRBY 1899 Leigh Wigan & Leigh L/8/184 Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1900 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference DERBYSHIRE Gertrude 1900 Leigh Wigan & Leigh L/10/345 Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1901 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference DERBYSHIRE Eric KIRBY 1901 Leigh Wigan & Leigh L/11/310 Lancashire Birth indexes for the years: 1902 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference DERBYSHIRE Sarah KIRBY 1902 Leigh Wigan & Leigh L/15/231
Looks like Eleanor was named after her deceased Aunt
Lancashire Death indexes for the years: 1901 Surname Forename(s) Age or Date of Birth Year Sub-District Registers At Reference DERBYSHIRE Eleanor 3 1901 Leigh Wigan & Leigh L/7/346
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According to Lancashire b.m.d there is an Eleanor Derbyshire born 1906 in Leigh. Mothers maiden name listed as Derbyshire so may not have been married.
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From FREEBMD - didn't you look there?
Marriages Sep 1951 (>99%) BENT Jesse DERBYSHIRE Leigh 10d 53 DERBYSHIRE Eleanor BENT Leigh 10d 53
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Eleanor's death in 1983 also posted above.
Apparently she had no children.
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1911 census clearly states that Solomon and his wife have had TWELVE children - of whom four have died
My money is on Emma for the mother
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According to records Eleanor would be 45 when married so I don’t think there would be any children
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thankyou everyone . you have answered many questions very grarteful regards Marlene sawyer
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1939
Joseph Bent 29 Mar 1876 Male Incapacitated By Illness Widowed 225 1 Martha Jones (Bent) 23 Jan 1904 Female Potato Picker On Farm Single 225 2 Herbert Bent 03 Apr 1912 Male Coal Scuffter & Hewer (Below Ground) Single 225 3 Elsie Farrell (Bent) 31 Aug 1913 Female Winder Weaving Mill Single 225 4 Jesse Bent 05 Jan 1917 Male Colliery Hewer (Below Ground) Single 225 5
First name(s) JESSE Last name BENT Gender Unknown Birth day 5 Birth month 1 Birth year 1917 Age - Death quarter 1 Death year 1978 District Leigh County Lancashire
Births Mar 1917 (>99%) Bent Jesse Griffiths Leigh 8c 407
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Interesting, Erika - I had thought this 1905 birth for Jesse, as being nearer Eleanor's age - also with mms Griffiths:
In fact, I think it's the same family as your 1939 record.
BENT, JESSE mms GRIFFITHS GRO Reference: 1905 D Quarter in OF LEIGH Volume 08C Page 255
(That's on GRO as a male birth)
Jesse Bent in the Wigan, England, Church of England Baptisms, 1813-1911 Name: Jesse Bent Birth Date: 29 Nov 1905 Baptism Date: 14 Jan 1906 Baptism Place: Lowton, St Mary, Lancashire, England Parish as it Appears: Lowton, St Mary Father: Joseph Bent Mother: Eliza Jane Bent
But this may be his death in infancy, although spelled Jessie, and listed as a female death on GRO:
Deaths Mar 1906 (>99%) Bent Jessie 0 Leigh 8c 154
In 1910 the parents had a daughter whom they named Jessie:
BENT, JESSIE mms GRIFFITHS GRO Reference: 1910 D Quarter in OF LEIGH Volume 08C Page 246
Joseph Bent in the 1911 England Census Name: Joseph Bent Age in 1911: 34 Estimated birth year: abt 1877 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Lowton, Lancashire, England Civil Parish: Lowton County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Street address: 20 Bodden St Lowton St Marys Lancashire Marital status: Married Occupation: Coal Miner Hewer Registration district: Leigh Registration District Number: 460 Sub-registration district: Lowton ED, institution, or vessel: 06 Piece: 23190 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Bent 34 Eliza Jane Bent 31 Tom Bent 11 Martha Bent 7 Fred Bent 2 Jessie Bent 5/12 Fred Bent 25 - brother
It looks as if the daughter Jessie also died young:
Deaths Sep 1911 (>99%) Bent Jessie 0 Leigh 8c 337
And then they went on to have son Jesse 1917.
Death of the mother Eliza:
Eliza J Bent in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Eliza J Bent Death Age: 59 Birth Date: abt 1880 Registration Date: Apr 1939 [May 1939] [Jun 1939] Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration district: Leigh Inferred County: Lancashire Volume: 8c Page: 251
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