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31 Mar 2020 10:01 |
safc - the possible birth of Angus already posted on page 1.
As a long shot, bearing in mind the fluid nature of spelling of names at that time, this is the nearest possible (but BIG maybe!) marriage for Angus's parents:
MACARTHUR DONALD CATHARINE BELL/ 20/11/1810 507/ 50 91 Campbeltown
But there's no way of knowing if that's the correct marriage or not.
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31 Mar 2020 03:17 |
from scotlands people site its pay per view you need to register and buy credits
MACARTHUR ANGUS DONALD MACARTHUR/CATHARINE MACILVOIL M 30/03/1815 507/ 40 427 Campbeltown View image (6 credits)
MACLELLAN MARGARET JOHN MACLELLAN/ANNE CURRIE F 10/04/1817 507/ 40 460 Campbeltown
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31 Mar 2020 03:15 |
Record Transcription: Scotland Births & Baptisms 1564-1950
First name(s) Angus Last name Macarthur Gender Male Birth year 1815 Birth place - Baptism year 1815 Baptism date 30 Mar 1815 Baptism place CAMPBELTOWN,ARGYLL,SCOTLAND Father's first name(s) Donald Father's last name Macarthur Mother's first name(s) Catharine Mother's last name Macilvoil Place Campbeltown County Argyllshire Country Scotland Record set Scotland Births & Baptisms 1564-1950 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Baptisms Collections from Scotland, Great Britain
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Neil
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31 Mar 2020 00:55 |
It looks like Margaret was a McLellan, so the family tree i was given was wrong, thanks again for all your help, now trying to find the parents of Margaret and Angus, this might take me a while, still i have time now im at home most of the time,
Thanks
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ArgyllGran
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30 Mar 2020 21:23 |
Just to reiterate -
Don't be confused by the McArthur family in Uig, whose records safc has posted because you said Margaret's name was McKenzie. That's a red herring - ignore!
Margaret was a McLellan/McClellan, either mistranscribed or misheard as McLaren on a couple of records, as already explained.
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Neil
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30 Mar 2020 20:32 |
It is the right family as Angus and Margarets daughter Catherine was married to my GG Grandfather Julius Clarke 1858 and they lived in Southampton
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30 Mar 2020 19:25 |
Look carefully at the info posted for you - if you're sure they are the Southampton family
son John born 9/8/1850 in Campbeltown
Family in Southampton by time of 1851 census
Mothers maiden name shows as McLellan on Scottish births and also daughter Margaret in Southampton RD with the McLaren ones probably due to accent or poor handwriting
A marriage for Angus McArthur to a Margaret MCLELLAN January 1842 in Campbeltown
? First child recorded - if Scottish naming pattern was followed he would be named for his Paternal Grandfather. AG posted a possible birth for Angus Page 1 - with parents Donald McArthur and Catherine McAvoil
MCARTHUR DONALD ANGUS MCARTHUR/MARGARET MCLELLAN FR230 (FR230) M 09/11/1844 531/ 20 51 Saddell and Skipness
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30 Mar 2020 19:24 |
Record Transcription: Scotland Births & Baptisms 1564-1950
First name(s) Donald Last name Mac Aurther Gender Male Birth year 1857 Birth place Uig,Ross and Cromarty,Scotland Baptism year - Baptism date - Baptism place - Father's first name(s) Angus Father's last name Mac Aurther Mother's first name(s) Margaret Mother's last name Mac Kenzie Place Uig County Ross and Cromarty Country Scotland Record set Scotland Births & Baptisms 1564-1950 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Baptisms Collections from Scotland, Great Britain
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30 Mar 2020 19:20 |
this could be angus and peggy mckenzie
Record Transcription: 1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Private House, Uig, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland
Henrietta McArthur Census Record Ross and Cromarty, Scotland Year of census: 1881 Household Members Members that resided in the household at the time of the census. First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Angus McArthur Head Married Male 42 1829 Fisherman Uig, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland Margaret McArthur Wife Married Female 36 1835 Fisherman's Wife Uig, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland Ann McArthur Mother Widow Female 85 1786 Tenant's W Uig, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland Catherine McArthur Daughter Unmarried Female 16 1855 General Servt Uig, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland Donald McArthur Son - Male 13 1858 - Uig, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland Mary Ann McArthur Daughter - Female 9 1862 Scholar Uig, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland Henrietta McArthur Daughter - Female 7 1864 Scholar Uig, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland Chirsty McArthur Daughter - Female 5 1866 Scholar Uig, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland Kennina McArthur Daughter - Female 2 1869
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30 Mar 2020 19:18 |
Record Transcription: Scotland Births & Baptisms 1564-1950
First name(s) Heneriatta Last name Mac Aurther Gender Female Birth year 1861 Birth place Uig,Ross and Cromarty,Scotland Baptism year - Baptism date - Baptism place - Father's first name(s) Angus Father's last name Mac Aurther Mother's first name(s) Margaret Mother's last name Mac Kenzie Place Uig County Ross and Cromarty Country Scotland Record set Scotland Births & Baptisms 1564-1950 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Baptisms Collections from Scotland, Great Britain
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Neil
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30 Mar 2020 19:08 |
Ive havnt found any marriage details as of yet, so not sure if they were married in Cambeltown or not but i do know that they moved to Southampton between 1851 and 1854
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30 Mar 2020 19:00 |
Margaret's surname would appear to be McLellan NOT McKenzie. Above replies which you confirm are correct family show Angus as a Fireman 1861 and 1871. The children's births all show her surname as McLellen too
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Neil
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30 Mar 2020 18:41 |
Thank you so far everyone,
Ive spoken to a family member who had also done a family tree a while ago and they have told me that Angus McArthur was married to a Margaret McKenzie both from Cambletown, Scotland, as we know they did move away to Southampton as this is where all my family live now but it would be nice to find out a bit more about there life and family in Scotland,
I wont give up Stay safe everyone
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30 Mar 2020 18:34 |
PM from Neil - have asked him to reply on thread
Yes it is the right McArthurs, i think he was also a fireman on one census, trying to find out about there scottish past if thats possible.
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30 Mar 2020 18:23 |
Record Transcription: 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Longrow East Side, Campbeltown, Cantyre, Argyllshire, Scotland Learn about this record set What can I do with this record? Add To Tree Attach this record as a source to a person on your tree. Also update people and relatives with details from this record Report an Error Report a transcription error. Household Members Members that resided in the household at the time of the census. First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Angus McArthur Head Married Male 35 1816 Lab (Agr) Argyllshire, Scotland Margaret McArthur Wife Married Female 34 1817 - Argyllshire, Scotland Alex McArthur Son - Male 6 1845 - Argyllshire, Scotland Archibald McArthur Son - Male 4 1847 - Argyllshire, Scotland Donald McArthur Son - Male 2 1849 - Argyllshire, Scotland John McArthur Son - Male 0 1851 - Argyllshire, Scotland Margaret Mathieson Visitor Unmarried Female 64 1787 Seamstress Killean, Argyllshire, Scotland
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30 Mar 2020 18:05 |
Record Transcription: Scotland Marriages 1561-1910
First name(s) Angus Last name McArthur Marriage year 1842 Marriage date 25 Jan 1842 Marriage place Campbeltown,Argyll,Scotland Spouse's first name(s) Margaret Spouse's last name McLellan Place Campbeltown County Argyllshire Country Scotland Record set Scotland Marriages 1561-1910 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Marriages Collections from Scotland, Great Britain
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ArgyllGran
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30 Mar 2020 18:02 |
Son Alexander:
MCARTHUR ALEXANDER ANGUS MCARTHUR/MARGARET MCLELLAN FR231 (FR231) M 27/02/1845 531/ 20 53 Saddell and Skipness [near Campbeltown ]
This is probably "Daniel" in 1861 census:
MCARTHUR DONALD ANGUS MCARTHUR/MARGARET MCLELLAN M 04/12/1848 507/ 70 345 Campbeltown
If you buy credits on Scotlands People (min 30 credits for £7.50) you can view and print the birth and marriage records for 6 credits per record.
Unfortunately, the marriage record, which is just a parish record, and not a marriage cert as such, will not give you the names of the parents of either Angus or Margaret.
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ErikaH
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30 Mar 2020 18:00 |
We need info from Neil as to how he worked back to the people he names
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ArgyllGran
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30 Mar 2020 17:59 |
Birth of the son Archibald in 1861 census:
MCARTHUR ARCHIBALD ANGUS MCARTHUR/MARGARET MCLELLAN M 28/10/1846 507/ 70 312 Campbeltown
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30 Mar 2020 17:58 |
?????
Was there more than one Angus of marrying age in Campbeltown as the Mother here is McLellen ??
Baptism -
MCARTHUR JOHN ANGUS MCARTHUR/MARGARET MCLELLAN M 09/08/1850 507/ 70 373 Campbeltown
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