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Hello everyone how you are all ok

I have been trying to put the Pinney Family Tree Together

But I have come across Arthur Pinney Marriages and they don’t seam to Talley

Arthur Pinner born 1861 Luton Beds— Marriage1882 Luton beds —Eliza Annetts born 1861Chilton Berks
Father William Pinner. Father William Annetts
On 1901 Census Arthur is called Pinney
But one of their children birth Percy Thomas Pinney MM Annetts
So maybe
Arthur changed from Pinner to Pinney

Then the next marriage for a Arthur Pinney

Arthur Pinney born 1862 Luton Beds—-Marriage 1901 Luton Beds —Emma Smith 1882
Father Thomas Pinney. Father Thomas Smith

On the The Census for 1911 Arthur is on there with his small son Percy Harold Pinney 1911—1914
Also Joseph Smith and Harriet Smith nee Pinney
So I just wonder if there are 2 Arthur Pinney born Luton Beds

Sorry to trouble you all again
I found both Marriages on Family Search Org
Bye for now
Olive Jean xx

Thankyou agian
I will Let you know if I ever find the 1911 Census
Olive

As he was born in 1894, the earliest he could possibly be on any Electoral Roll would be 1915, because he wouldn't be eligible to vote before then.

Thankyou so much for your reply That’s really kind of you
So when life gets back to normal !!
I will go to the local Library
Thankyou agian
Keep safe
Olive Jean

On Ancestry, the earliest mention of Wilfred Pinney in the Electoral Rolls for Luton is 1918, when he's on the Absent Voters List because he's still in the army.

He and Percy Thomas are listed at 22 Essex Street.

They're both still at that address, and on the Absent Voters List, in 1919.

By 1920 Wilfred is out of the army, and is at Upper Sundon.
There are no other Pinneys listed with him.

He's then at Upper Sundon until 1925.

The National Roll of the Great War gives his address as Upper Sundon in 1914.
However, Ancestry says,
" Entries in The National Roll of the Great War were compiled by subscription. Information for the entries was generally submitted by family members or the soldiers themselves. Information provided was not verified and therefore, may or may not be accurate. "


1926 - 1929, he's at Council Houses, Luton, with Lizzie Pinney in 1929.
1930 - 1937, he and Lizzie are at 7 Hills View.
1938 - 1968, he's at 4 Harlington Street.

In 1968 he's with Elizabeth and John Pinney.
I haven't looked to see who's with him at that address in all the other years (1938-1967).

Thankyou for your reply
Yes I have read the Army records you have mentioned
Maybe his records were destroyed

I was just wondering if he was mentioned in Luton Bedfordshire Electroles, as that’s where he lived ; except when he was in the Army
Thankyou All agian
Olive Jean

The only army-related records we can find have already been posted on page 1 of this thread.

The information posted by alviegal, from the National Roll of the Great War, gives a lot of detail.

Very many WW1 army records have not survived.

There is no Wilfred Pinney on the London Electoral Roll in 1911 or any year around that.

But of course he may not have been in London - he could have been anywhere.
Historical Electoral Rolls for most places are not online.

Hello everyone
I Just wondered when the Electroles started maybe Wilfred Pinney born 1894 would be on them ?
Also did Wilfred Pinney born 1894 have WW1 Army Records for the time he was in the army
Maybe when we are back to normal a trip to the Local
Library
Thankyou all agian
Olive Jean

Thankyou for your reply
Olive Jean

No, we can't find him either, Olive Jean.

Good morning everyone

I just carnt make out where Wilfred Pinney born 1894 Luton Bedfordshire Is
On 1911 Census
Maybe he was overseas with the Army WW1
That’s just an idea
Thankyou Olive Jean

maud esther pinney / dear
1911 Census For England & Wales

44 Chase Street Luton, Luton, Bedfordshire, England
#
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Maud Esther Dear Wife Married Female 27 1884 Coster London
Alfred Dear Head Married Male 31 1880 Coster Luton Beds
Dorothy Dear Daughter - Female 3 1908 School Luton Beds
Maud Esther Dear Daughter - Female 1 1910 School Luton Beds

Hi
Thankyou so much for the 1939 Registers
It’s great to see the names of where they lived, as I recognised some of the names !!!
Thankyou
Olive Jean

Rose Payne

in the 1939 England and Wales Register

Name: Rose Payne
[Emily Rose Payne]
Gender: Female
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 13 Jul 1887
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 213
Residence Place: Luton, Bedfordshire, England
Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties
Schedule Number: 145
Sub Schedule Number: 2
Enumeration District: DPOW
Registration district: 178/2.
Inferred Spouse: Albert Payne
Inferred Children: Percy Payne
Household Members:
Name
Albert Payne
Rose Payne
Percy Payne

Percy T Pinney's life in 1939
24 Elizabeth Street, Luton M.B., Bedfordshire, England
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation or this person is officially closed.
For inMarital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Percy T Pinney 09 Jan 1889 Male Builders Labourer Married 238 1
Ruth C Pinney 24 Jan 1891 Female Household Duties Unpaid Domestic Married 238 2
The record for this person is officially closed.

Arthur Pinney's life in 1939
208 Wellington Street, Luton M.B., Bedfordshire, England
.
Pinney household
(3 people)
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Arthur Pinney 27 Feb 1885 Male Stoker Boiler For Heating Purposes Married 34 1
Beatrice Pinney 13 Jan 1890 Female Domestic Duties Unpaid Married 34 2
Betty Toyer (Pinney) 13 Jun 1921 Female Hot Trade Milliner Single 34 3

Wilfred Pinney's life in 1939
4 Harlington Road, Luton R.D., Bedfordshire, Englan

Pinney household
(9 people)
First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number
Wilfred Pinney 01 Jun 1894 Male General Cement Labou Married 53 1
Elizabeth Pinney 09 Jun 1899 Female Unpaid Domestic Duti Married 53 2
Freda R Davies (Pinney) 25 Mar 1922 Female Weigher Wool & Fur Felt Single 53 3
The record for this person is officially closed.

Hi agian
I just wondered if if they would all be on the 1939 Register
That is one thing I won’t be able to find Untill we are all back to normal
Our Local Library
Keep safe everyone
Olive Jean

British Army Service Records
Percy
Last name Pinney
Age 19
Birth year 1890
Birth town Luton
Birth county Bedfordshire
Birth country England
Service number 9499
Regiment Bedfordshire Regiment
Year 1909
Series WO 364
Series description Wo 364 - First World War Pension Claims
Archive
The National Archives
Record set British Army Service Records
Category Military, armed forces & conflict
Subcategory First World War

released 16 06 1909 having joined regulars west yorks reg on 17th

nok arthur and eliza pinney 50 cromwell road london

Percy T
Last name Pinney
Year 1914-20
Service number 4645, 70851, 360472, 241610
Second service number 70851
Third service number 360472
Fourth service number 241610
Rank Private,Private,Private,Private
Second rank Private
Third rank Private
Fourth rank Private
Regiment Bedfordshire Regiment, Northamptonshire Regiment, Labour Corps, Devonshire Regiment
Second corps Northamptonshire Regiment
Third corps Labour Corps
Fourth corps Devonshire Regiment
Service record Soldier Number: 4645, Rank: Private, Corps: Bedfordshire Regiment
Second service record Soldier Number: 70851, Rank: Private, Corps: Northamptonshire Regiment
Third service record Soldier Number: 360472, Rank: Private, Corps: Labour Corps
Fourth service record Soldier Number: 241610, Rank: Private, Corps: Devonshire Regiment
Image link http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/SearchUI/Details?uri=D4649069
NOK ARTHUR AND ELIZA PINNEY 650 OR 50 CROMWELLL ROAD

Havnt managed to find Wilfred Pinney on 1911 Census born 1894 Luton Bedfordshire
Bye for now
Thankyou
Olive Jean

Hi Next 1911 Census

Albert Payne age 30 Luton Bedfordshire
Emily(Rose Payne nee Pinney 24 Luton Bedfordshire
Percy Payne Son born 1909 Luton Bedfordshire
Reginald Payne born 1911 Luton Bedfordshire
Beatrice Pinney Sister in law born 1892/3 Luton Bedfordshire( Emily Rose nee Pinney Sister)

Albert Payne married Emily Rose Pinney 24/04/1908 Luton Bedfordshire