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25 Mar 2020 11:11 |
Elizabeth with parents and siblings in 1901:
Elizabeth Pelling in the 1901 England Census Name: Elizabeth Pelling Age: 19 Estimated birth year: abt 1882 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Father: Henery Pelling Mother: Emma Pelling Birth Place: Woolwich, Essex, England Civil Parish: West Ham Ecclesiastical parish: St Mark County/Island: Essex Country: England Street address: Registration district: West Ham Sub-registration district: Canning Town ED, institution, or vessel: 06 Neighbors: Piece: 1578 Folio: 172 Page Number: 50 Household schedule number: 281 Household Members: Name Age Henery Pelling 50 Emma Pelling 47 Alfred Pelling 26 Elizabeth Pelling 19 John Pelling 17 Isabella Pelling 11 William Pelling 8 Emma Pelling 5 Fanny Pelling 2
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25 Mar 2020 11:13 |
webb/pelling
EMILY L Last name WEBB Birth year 1919 Birth quarter 4 Registration month - Mother's maiden name Pelling District West Ham County Essex
ETHEL M Last name WEBB Birth year 1911 Birth quarter 3 Registration month - Mother's maiden name Pelling District West Ham
GEORGE W H Last name WEBB Birth year 1913 Birth quarter 2 Registration month - Mother's maiden name Pelling District West Ham County Essex
ISABEL L Last name WEBB Birth year 1916 Birth quarter 3 Registration month - Mother's maiden name Pelling District West Ham
KATHLEEN Last name WEBB Birth year 1915 Birth quarter 1 Registration month - Mother's maiden name Pelling District West Ham
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25 Mar 2020 11:16 |
Looks like Elizabeth's brother Alfred in 1891:
Alfred Pelling in the 1891 England Census Name: Alfred Pelling Gender: Male Age: 15 Birth Year: 1876 Birth Place: Woolwich, Kent, England Civil Parish: Kingsnorth Ecclesiastical parish: Kingsnorth Residence Place: Kingsnorth, Kingsnorth, Kent, England Registration district: West Ashford Sub registration district: Ashford ED, Institution or Vessel: Kent County Industrial School Neighbors: Piece: 700 Folio: 149
And 1881:
Alfred Pelling in the 1881 England Census Name: Alfred Pelling Age: 6 Estimated birth year: abt 1875 Relationship to Head: Son Father: Henry Pelling Mother: Emma Pelling Gender: Male Where born: Woolwich, Kent, England Civil Parish: Woolwich County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 20 Godfrey Street Education: Employment status: View image Registration district: Woolwich Sub registration district: Woolwich Dockyard ED, institution, or vessel: 8 Neighbors: Piece: 743 Folio: 121 Page Number: 55 Household Members: Name Age Henry Pelling 30 - Hatcham, wire strander Emma Pelling 23 - Woolwich Alfred Pelling 6 Ann Payne 75 - lodger, widow, poultry dealer, London
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25 Mar 2020 11:19 |
Alfred George Pelling in the British Army WWI Pension Records 1914-1920 Name: Alfred George Pelling Gender: Male Birth Date: abt 1877 Age: 38 Document Year: 1915 Residence Place: 64 Hemsworth Street, Canning Town Essex Regimental Number: 43764 Regiment Name: Royal Artillery (Royal Horse Artillery and Royal Field Artillery) Form Title: Short Service Attestation Number of Images: 5 Family Members: Name Relation to Soldier Alfred George Pelling Self (Head) Katherine Mc Guire Dependant "and guardian to my two children"
Alfred G Pelling in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Alfred G Pelling Death Age: 59 Birth Date: abt 1876 Registration Date: Apr 1935 [May 1935] [Jun 1935] Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration district: West Ham Inferred County: Essex Volume: 4a Page: 86
His birth:
PELLING, ALFRED GEORGE mms KELDAY GRO Reference: 1875 S Quarter in WOOLWICH Volume 01D Page 967
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25 Mar 2020 11:25 |
Marriage of parents of Alfred and Elizabeth (and the other siblings), and therefore grandparents of John James;
Marriages Dec 1874 (>99%) Kelday Emma Woolwich 1d 1411 Pelling Henry Woolwich 1d 1411
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25 Mar 2020 11:27 |
John James's sister Elizabeth's baptism:
Elizabeth Emily Adelaide Webb in the Essex, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1918 Name: Elizabeth Emily Adelaide Webb Birth Date: 25 May Baptism Date: 8 Jul 1908 Baptism Place: Custom House, Victoria Docks, St. Matthew, Essex, England Father: William George Webb Mother: Elizabeth Jane Webb
And sadly, her death aged 6:
Elizabeth E Webb in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: Elizabeth E Webb Estimated birth year: abt 1909 Registration Year: 1915 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Age at Death: 6 Registration district: West Ham Inferred County: Essex Volume: 4a Page: 68
WEBB, ELIZABETH EMILY 6 GRO Reference: 1915 J Quarter in WEST HAM Volume 04A Page 68
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25 Mar 2020 11:38 |
John James's sister Isabel:
Isabel Latitia Webb in the Essex, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1918 Name: Isabel Latitia Webb Age: 0 Birth Date: 27 Jun 1916 Baptism Date: 14 Jul 1916 Baptism Place: Victoria Docks, St Luke, Essex, England Father: William Webb Mother: Elizabeth Webb
Isabella Letitia Webb in the Essex, England, Church of England Marriages, 1754-1935 Name: Isabella Letitia Webb Gender: Female Marriage Age: 18 Record Type: Marriage Birth Date: abt 1916 Marriage Date: 22 Jan 1934 Marriage Place: Canning Town, Mayflower Centre and Predecessor Churches, Essex, England Father: William George Webb Spouse: Lawrence Bertram Pinder
Isabel L Pinder in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: Isabel L Pinder Gender: Female Marital status: Married Birth Date: 27 Jun 1916 Residence Year: 1939 Address: 59, Mortlake Rd. Residence Place: West Ham, Essex, England Occupation: Unpaid Housewife Schedule Number: 89 Sub Schedule Number: 2 Enumeration District: CBWR Registration district: 188-4 Inferred Spouse: Lawrence B Pinder Inferred Children: Lawrence B Pinder Household Members: Name Lawrence B Pinder - steel bender, heavy worker - 7 June 1915 Isabel L Pinder Lawrence B Pinder - 12 March 1935 Stephan G Pinder - 22 Jan 1920, ordinary seaman, Royal Navy, HMS "Drake"
Isabel Letitia Pinder in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Isabel Letitia Pinder Death Age: 77 Birth Date: 27 Jun 1916 Registration Date: Jul 1993 Registration district: Redbridge Inferred County: Greater London Register Number: A41 District and Subdistrict: 2471A Entry Number: 101
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25 Mar 2020 11:50 |
elizabeths parents Name: Henry Pelling Gender: Male Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 14 Dec 1874 Marriage Place: St Mary Magdalene, Woolwich, Greenwich, England Father: Henry Pelling Spouse: Emma Kelday Register Type: Parish Register
Name: Henry Pelling Document Year: 1914 Relationship to Soldier: Father Form Title: Other Other Records: Family Members: Name Relation to Soldier William John Pelling Self (Head) Henry Pelling Father Emma Pelling Mother John Pelling Brother Alfred Pelling Brother
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25 Mar 2020 12:46 |
??????????? William Geo Webb
in the 1891 England Census Name: William Geo Webb Gender: Male Age: 5 Relationship: Son Birth Year: 1886 Father: Joseph Geo Webb Mother: Jane Webb Birth Place: Charlton, Kent, England Civil Parish: Woolwich Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas Residence Place: Woolwich, London, England Registration district: Woolwich Sub registration district: Woolwich Dockyard ED, Institution or Vessel: 14 Neighbors: Piece: 531 Folio: 32 Household Members: Name Age Joseph Geo Webb 33 Jane Webb 33 Frederick Webb 7 William Geo Webb 5
FREDERICK CALEB Last name WEBB Birth year 1884 Birth quarter 1 Registration month - Mother's maiden name Stiles District Greenwich
Name: Joseph George Webb Gender: Male Age: 24 Birth Date: 1857 Marriage Date: 25 Dec 1881 Marriage Place: Christ Church, Greenwich, Kent, England Father: Frederick Caleb Webb Spouse: Jane Stiles FHL Film Number: 355627 Reference ID: v 14 p 250
WILLIAM GEORGE Last name WEBB Birth year 1885 Birth quarter 4 Registration month - Mother's maiden name Stiles District Woolwich County London
Name: Caleb Frederick Webb Gender: Male Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 14 Jun 1856 Marriage Place: St Saviour, Chelsea, Kensington and Chelsea, England Father: Joseph Benjamin Webb Spouse: Elizabeth Jane Ford
Name: Caleb Frederick Webb Birth Date: 15 Sep 1832 Birth Place: St Leeks, Middlesex, England Gender: Male Event Type: Birth Father: Joseph Benjamin Mother: Hannah Piece Title: Piece 4675: Dr Williams' Library, Index to Birth Certificates, 1837
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25 Mar 2020 13:33 |
John James's sister Annie:
Annie Frances May Webb in the Essex, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1918 Name: Annie Frances May Webb Birth Date: 10 Jan [ 1910 ] Baptism Date: 26 Jan Baptism Place: Custom House, Victoria Docks, St. Matthew, Essex, England Father: William George Webb Mother: Elizabeth Jane Webb
Annie F M Webb in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005 Name: Annie F M Webb Registration Date: Jul 1937 [Aug 1937] [Sep 1937] Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration district: West Ham Inferred County: Essex Spouse: Harold Blakey Volume Number: 4a Page Number: 301
Annie F Blakey in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: Annie F Blakey Gender: Female Marital status: Married Birth Date: 10 Jan 1910 Residence Year: 1939 Address: Hut No. 136 Residence Place: Maidstone, Kent, England Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties Schedule Number: 115 Sub Schedule Number: 5 Enumeration District: DKLM Household Members: Name Elizabeth Webb - 28 Dec 1882, married This record is officially closed. Emily Clayton - 19 Sept 1919, married This record is officially closed. Annie F Blakey
Annie Frances M Blakey in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Annie Frances M Blakey Death Age: 75 Birth Date: 10 Jan 1910 Registration Date: Mar 1985 Registration district: Barking and Dagenham Inferred County: Essex Volume: 11 Page: 206
Annie and Harold had no children.
Emily Clayton in 1939 above is John James's sister Emily Louisa:
Marriages Sep 1938 (>99%) Clayton Edward J Webb W.Ham 4a 476 Webb Emily L Clayton W.Ham 4a 476
Emily and Edward had a son in 1938. If they had any other children, they weren't born in West Ham.
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25 Mar 2020 13:40 |
Possibly Emily's death:
Emily L Clayton in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Emily L Clayton Death Age: 41 Birth Date: abt 1920 Registration Date: Jan 1961 [Feb 1961] [Mar 1961] Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration district: Poplar Inferred County: London Volume: 5d Page: 331
The other sister Kathleen's death??
Kathleen Webb in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: Kathleen Webb Estimated birth year: abt 1915 Registration Year: 1915 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Age at Death: 0 Registration district: West Ham Inferred County: Essex Volume: 4a Page: 167
Although there's also this one:
Kathleen Webb in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007 Name: Kathleen Webb Death Age: 45 Birth Date: abt 1915 Registration Date: Jan 1960 [Feb 1960] [Mar 1960] Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration district: West Ham Inferred County: Essex Volume: 5a Page: 703
There are lots of uncles and aunts for you to research, Carol!
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Carol
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25 Mar 2020 14:08 |
Oh I haven't been on today I am so excited. Thank you so much everyone You are all angels.
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25 Mar 2020 17:12 |
I forgot to add - re John James's sister Isabel Webb -
she and her husband Lawrence Pinder seem to have had several children. You can find them on FreeBMD - just enter the two surnames in the Births search page, and click "Find":
.https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
Between 1934 and 1951 there were eight Pinder/Webb births in West Ham, which I won't post here, as they may well be living.
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Carol
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25 Mar 2020 18:21 |
Thankyou so much everyone.x
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