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Moses Tilston. UPDATE

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LaGooner

LaGooner Report 21 Mar 2020 21:06

I have Moses Tilston born 1829 Ellesmere in Shropshire not to be confused with his brother William Moses born 1827. Their Father was John Tilston born 1793 in Boughton, Flintshire and died about 1864. Their Mother was Elizabeth Gough 1793-1842.
Moses is last seen on 1871 census living with his Aunt.
I have already discounted a Moses in Wales (wife Esther) and one in West Ham Asylum who died 1917.
I have all the information on William Moses but cannot track down Moses at all.

LaGooner

LaGooner Report 21 Mar 2020 21:46

For Reference this is the last information I can find on him


Moses Tilston
Age:
41
Estimated birth year:
1830
Relation:
Nephew
Gender:
Male
Where born:
Ellesmere Shropshire England
Civil Parish:
Ellesmere
Ecclesiastical parish:
St Mary
County/Island:
Shropshire
Country:
England
Registration district:
Ellesmere
Sub-registration district:
Ellesmere
ED, institution, or vessel:
1
Household schedule number:
125
Piece:
2788

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Mar 2020 22:04

Have you eliminated the Moses who died in Chester in 1892?

LaGooner

LaGooner Report 21 Mar 2020 22:07

Yes Erika I have he was the one married to Esther

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Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 21 Mar 2020 22:41

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Name: Moses Tilston
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 1899
Event Place: New Zealand
Age (Estimated): 70
Birth Date: 1829
Registration Number: 1899/152


Citing this Record
"New Zealand, Civil Records Indexes, 1800-1966," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QG6K-DHTQ : 4 January 2018), Moses Tilston, 1899; citing Death, New Zealand, registration number 1899/152, Archives of New Zealand, Wellington.

Rose

LaGooner

LaGooner Report 21 Mar 2020 22:46

I did see that one in New Zealand but I cannot find any record of him travelling there

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 22 Mar 2020 00:40

EDIT: No, ignore this post - you're right, the Moses in the asylum isn't your man.



Looking at the Moses in the asylum in 1917 - bearing in mind the mental health problems suffered by other members of (presumably) the same family per your other thread:

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1382420


He wasn't in West Ham. That 's a mistranscription on Ancestry.

The image says he was in "Whittm" asylum - presumably Whittingham, which was near Preston:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whittingham_Hospital


Not that it necessarily means anything. Kyffin Evans in your other thread was in several asylums in various places around the country.

It's a pity no age is given on the asylum record.

EDIT:
BUT, the only death for that name in 1917 is this man, who was born c1852 - so not your Moses, as you'd already worked out!

Deaths Sep 1917 (>99%)
Tilston Moses 65 Preston 8e 503

LaGooner

LaGooner Report 22 Mar 2020 08:56

Tricky little devil this one ;-) :-D

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 23 Mar 2020 09:09

The absence of an online record for travel doesn’t mean it didn’t happen. Take into account the dates of the available records

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Mar 2020 10:54

This may (or may not) be the same NZ death:

Moses Tilston
in the New Zealand, Death Index, 1848-1966
Name: Moses Tilston
Death Date: Jan-Feb-Mar 1899
Registration Place: Napier, Auckland, New Zealand
Folio Number: 204


This probably relates:

Moses Tilston
in the New Zealand, Electoral Rolls, 1853-1981
Name: Moses Tilston
Gender: Male
Electoral Year: 1890
District: Napier
Region or Province: Hawke's Bay

He's a gardener.

Only heads of households seem to be listed, unfortunately.

LaGooner

LaGooner Report 23 Mar 2020 13:50

I have emailed the Library in New Zealand that holds the records to see if they have any further information.
Thanks everyone for your much appreciated input so now I wait with bated breath

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Mar 2020 14:01

Moses Tilston of Napier is included in this list of "contributors" to Napier Hospital in 1887:

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/HBH18870108.2.22.3

LaGooner

LaGooner Report 23 Mar 2020 14:22

Thanks for the newspaper clipping Argyll Gran. Does anyone Know if is it possible to purchase Death Certificates from NZ please

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 23 Mar 2020 14:52


Instructions here:

https://www.bdmhistoricalrecords.dia.govt.nz/

I assume you can order from abroad.

LaGooner

LaGooner Report 23 Mar 2020 15:13

Thank you I will look into that

LaGooner

LaGooner Report 25 Mar 2020 11:11

Thank you again everyone you have been so helpful. I have made contact with the National Library in New Zealand and we have found him travelling to Auckland and residing there as per the death record above
Keep well everyone :-)