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22 Feb 2020 20:06 |
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Rudd, Monkleigh, Bideford, Devon, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Arnold Head Married Male 50 1801 Bargeman Ashreigney, Devon, England Betsy Arnold Wife Married Female 37 1814 - Devon, England Jane Arnold Daughter - Female 14 1837 Glover Monkleigh, Devon, England Anne Arnold Daughter - Female 6 1845 Scholar Monkleigh, Devon, England William Arnold Son - Male 4 1847 - Monkleigh, Devon, England Charles Arnold Son - Male 0 1851 - Monkleigh, Devon, England Jane Blight Step Daughter - Female 14 1837 Glover Devon, England Betsy Blight Step Daughter - Female 12 1839 Glover Devon, England Harriot Jones Visitor Unmarried Female 18 1833 Glover Devon, England
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: ARNOLD, ANN HOOKAWAY BLIGHT GRO Reference: 1844 D Quarter in THE BIDEFORD UNION Volume 10 Page 71
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22 Feb 2020 20:04 |
So William and his parents in 1871
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Providence Row, Bideford, Devon, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Arnold Head - Male 72 1799 - Devon, England Betsey Arnold Wife - Female 58 1813 - Devon, England William Arnold Son - Male 24 1847 - Devon, England Charles Arnold Son - Male 20 1851 - Devon, England Mary J Arnold Granddaughter - Female 4 1867 - Devon, England
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: ARNOLD, WILLIAM BLIGHT GRO Reference: 1846 S Quarter in THE BIDEFORD UNION Volume 10 Page 60.
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22 Feb 2020 20:00 |
Does that mean you're still questioning it?
1891 census posted by GG seems to confirm it.
?? ARNOLD, WILLIAM mms BLIGHT GRO Reference: 1846 S Quarter in THE BIDEFORD UNION Volume 10 Page 60
William Arnold in the 1881 England Census Name: William Arnold Age: 35 Estimated birth year: abt 1846 Relationship to Head: Head Spouse: Sarah A. Arnold Gender: Male Where born: Mouhley Nr Bideford, Devon, England <<<<<<<<<<< Civil Parish: Stoke Damerel County/Island: Devon Country: England Street address: 23 Catherine St Marital status: Married Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Shipwright H M Dockyard Registration district: Stoke Damerel Sub registration district: St Aubyn ED, institution, or vessel: 2 Neighbors: Piece: 2206 Folio: 22 Page Number: 4 Household Members: Name Age William Arnold 35 Sarah A. Arnold 29 Ella Arnold 10 Lily C. Arnold 8 Lucy M. Arnold 7 Edith F. Arnold 1
William Arnold in the 1871 England Census Name: William Arnold Age: 24 Estimated birth year: 1847 Relation: Son Gender: Male Where born: Monkleigh Devon England <<<<<<<<<<<< Civil Parish: Bideford Town: Bideford County/Island: Devon Country: England Registration district: Bideford Sub-registration district: Bideford ED, institution, or vessel: 9 Household schedule number: 83 Piece: 2201 Folio: 29 Page Number: 15 Household Members: Name Age John Arnold 72 Betsey Arnold 58 William Arnold 24 Charles Arnold 20 Mary J Arnold 4
William Arnold in the 1861 England Census Name: William Arnold Age: 16 Estimated birth year: 1845 Relation: Son Father's name: John Arnold Mother's name: Betsy Arnold Gender: Male Where born: Monkleigh, Devon, England <<<<<<<<<<<<<< Civil Parish: Monkleigh County/Island: Devon Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Bideford Sub-registration district: Parkham ED, institution, or vessel: 6 Neighbors: Household schedule number: 29 Piece: 1504 Folio: 57 Page Number: 6 Household Members: Name Age John Arnold 61 Betsy Arnold 47 Ann Arnold 16 William Arnold 16 Charles Arnold 9 Charles G Stone 9/12
[Not bothering to post 1851 and 1841 censuses.]
William Arnold in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: William Arnold Gender: Male Baptism Date: 20 Aug 1846 Baptism Place: Monkleigh,Devon,England <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Father: John Arnold Mother: Betsy FHL Film Number: 916865
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22 Feb 2020 19:52 |
Got to work backwards, can't just jump in
There are 2 William Arnold's born within a couple of years of each other in Bideford RD. This marriage record to Sarah Ann shows his Father to be John
Devon Marriages And Banns
First name(s) William Last name Arnold Age Of Age Birth year - Residence Bideford Denomination Anglican Marriage year 1871 Marriage date 14 Aug 1871 Place Bideford Spouse's first name(s) Sarah Ann Spouse's last name Pickard Spouse age Of Age Spouse's residence Bideford Father's first name John Father's last name Arnold Spouse's father's first name(s) Robert Spouse's father's last name Pickard County Devon Country England Archive South West Heritage Trust
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Vivien
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22 Feb 2020 19:41 |
yes William F Arnold's mother was Margaret Callard who married Alfred Ernest Arnold. However William Francis Arnold was born in 1916. I think he was one of a twin but he other died at birth. I also think that one of his sisters committed suicide as her husband died in a car crash and the story i have been told is that the police handed over all blood stained money and belongings to her. I remember Uncle Ern vaguely but i was born in 1984 so dont know much. Alrfed Ernest Arnold born in stoke damerel- his parents are what I am questioning- William Arnold and Sarah Ann Pickard from Bideford. Thanks for your help xxx
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22 Feb 2020 19:40 |
Alfred Ernest with Parents and siblings 1891
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Mount Street, Devonport, Stoke Damerel, Devon, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Arnold Head Married Male 44 1847 Shipwright H M Dockyard Bideford, Devon, England Sarah Ann Arnold Wife Married Female 39 1852 - Bideford, Devon, England Lucy Maud Arnold Daughter Single Female 17 1874 - Bideford, Devon, England Edith Fisher Arnold Daughter Single Female 11 1880 - Devonport, Devon, England Beatrice Louisa Arnold Daughter Single Female 10 1881 Scholar Devonport, Devon, England William Stanley Arnold Son Single Male 7 1884 Scholar Devonport, Devon, England Alfred Ernest Arnold Son Single Male 5 1886 Scholar Devonport, Devon, England Wilfred John Arnold Son Single Male 3 1888 Scholar Devonport, Devon, England Florence Mabel Arnold Daughter Single Female 2 1889 - Devonport, Devon, England
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: ARNOLD, FLORENCE MABEL PICKARD GRO Reference: 1888 D Quarter in STOKE DAMEREL Volume 05B Page 312
and in 1881
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census 23, Catherine Street, Devonport Stoke-Damerel, Stoke Damerel, Devon, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place William Arnold Head Married Male 35 1846 Shipwright H M Dockyard - Sarah A Arnold Wife Married Female 29 1852 - Bideford, Devon, England Ella Arnold Daughter Single Female 10 1871 Scholar Bideford, Devon, England Lily C Arnold Daughter Single Female 8 1873 Scholar Bideford, Devon, England Lucy M Arnold Daughter Single Female 7 1874 Scholar Bideford, Devon, England Edith F Arnold Daughter Single Female 1 1880 - Devonport, Devon, England
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22 Feb 2020 19:37 |
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Sep 1871 (>99%) ARNOLD William Bideford 5b 850 <<<<<<<< GLOVER William Bideford 5b 850 PADDON Catherine Bideford 5b 850 PICKARD Sarah Ann Bideford 5b 850 <<<<<<<
(There are births to a Glover/Paddon couple in Bideford)
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22 Feb 2020 19:34 |
Great Grandad's birth registered as Alfred Ernest - fits the pob of Devonport
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: ARNOLD, ALFRED ERNEST PICKARD GRO Reference: 1886 M Quarter in STOKE DAMEREL Volume 05B Page 326
(There is an Ernest Alfred same year and Qtr born Shoreditch)
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22 Feb 2020 19:30 |
Family in 1939 - gives DOB's
Ruby Arnold's life in 1939 139 Swetty Road, Plymouth C.B., Devon, England
Arnold household (7 people) First name(s) Last name(s) DOB Sex Occupation Marital status Schedule Schedule Sub Number A E Arnold 10 Feb 1886 Male Cleaner General Post Office Pensioner Married 171 1 Margaret Arnold 06 Jul 1889 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married 171 2 J (W) Arnold 15 Oct 1916 Male General Labourer ? Single 171 3 Doris M (William F) Phleston (Arnold) 13 Jul 1920 Female Factory Worker Mineral Single 171 4 Marjorie Gilmartin (Palmer,Arnold) 13 Feb 1922 Female Laundry Worker Single 171 5 Ruby Arnold 31 Mar 1925 Female Learning For Sewing Single 171 6
The record for this person is officially closed. Can I get around this?
View first 5 occupants Ref: RG101/6803A/023/7 Letter Code: WETT
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22 Feb 2020 19:27 |
siblings of your Grandad
Surname First name(s) Mother District Vol Page Births Dec 1912 (>99%) Arnold Alfred E Callard Devonport 5b 473 Births Dec 1914 (>99%) Arnold Mabel C Callard Devonport 5b 485 Births Dec 1916 (>99%) Arnold William F Callard Devonport 5b 419 Births Sep 1920 (>99%) Arnold Doris M Callard Devonport 5b 569 Births Mar 1923 (>99%) Arnold Marjorie Callard Devonport 5b 485 Births Jun 1925 (>99%) Arnold Ruby E M Callard Devonport 5b 455 Births Dec 1927 (>99%) Arnold George E Callard Devonport 5b 430
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22 Feb 2020 19:23 |
? Ernest is a Stoker 1st Class in 1911. Confirms age as 24 so born 1886/7 and says he was born in Devonport
1911 Census For England & Wales Portland, Dorset, England
First name(s) Ernest Alfred Last name Arnold Relationship - Marital status Married Sex Male Age 24 Birth year 1887 Birth place Devonport Devon Occupation - House name - House number - Street - Address - Parish Portland County Dorset Country England Archive reference RG14 Registration district Weymouth Registration district number 263 Enumeration district 11 District number 11 Sub district Portland Sub district number 3 Census reference RG14PN12373 RD263 SD3 ED11 SN9999 RG78 code number 703 Piece number 12373 Folio -
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22 Feb 2020 19:20 |
Looks like parents marriage
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Mar 1910 (>99%) Arnold Ernest Alfred Devonport 5b 594 Callard Margaret Devonport 5b 594
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22 Feb 2020 19:17 |
Welcome to the boards Viv.
Is this your Grandfather's Birth Registration?
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: ARNOLD, WILLIAM FRANCIS CALLARD GRO Reference: 1916 D Quarter in DEVONPORT Volume 05B Page 419
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22 Feb 2020 18:59 |
Hi, i am after some information about William Arnold born c1846 in Bideford, Devon. I am wondering if he is the great grandfather of my grandad (Complicated i know) William Francis Arnold born 1916-1983. William F Arnold's dad was Alfred Ernest Arnold born 1886 approx but this is where i start questioning my findings as if i am correct his father may be William Arnold 1946 Bideford and mother Sarah Ann Pickard. I do not know if i am right and if i am i cant seem to get much further. Any help would be seriously appreciated! Viv
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