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Valerie
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28 Jan 2020 20:07 |
Think Daniel must have gone to family and carried on his schooling because he went on to become a Solicitor and Clerk of the Peace here in Banbury in 1850's through to the 1886 when he died. I gather from a piece in a book about the Pellatts (no help with Daniels family though) but there was mention by his wife Jessie in it that he had an uncle who lived in Weedon Northants,not sure how one could check this out without his first name I am still trying to find his father Daniel (b1786 died 1833) parents it is said that his father and grandfather were all called Daniel, I thought it might have been Francis but that would mean he and Fortunatus would have been born the same year... mind bogging :-S but so adictive
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28 Jan 2020 17:27 |
Valerie ..............
at that time and place, any child over the age of 10 would probably have been out at work, as servant, chimney-sweep or whatever, unless their parents had some money.
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Valerie
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28 Jan 2020 14:10 |
Wow Thanks so much for all this info Val
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Maddie
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28 Jan 2020 12:15 |
frances brother
Name: Daniel Pellatt Gender: Male Event Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 26 Jul 1789 Baptism Place: Wennington, St Mary and St Peter, Essex, England Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map: View this parish Father: Frans Pellatt Mother: Susannah Pellatt
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ArgyllGran
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28 Jan 2020 11:58 |
Here's Ancestry's mistranscribed version of the 1841 census you mention;
Charles Bradley in the 1841 England Census Name: Charles Bradley Age: 9 Estimated birth year: abt 1832 Gender: Male Civil Parish: Plumstead Hundred: Lessness County/Island: Kent Country: England Street address: Occupation: View image Registration district: Lewisham Sub-registration district: Plumstead Neighbors: Piece: 484 Book: 18 Folio: 27 Page Number: 14 Household Members: Name Age Frederick Pellatt 55 [ Fortunatus Pellatt, mariner, on image. Mariner spelled maroner. ] Sarah Pellatt 48 Robert Wkinwood 75 [ Robert Atkinson Ditto, 15, on image ] Charles Bradley 9 [ image says Charles Bradley ditto ]
I've submitted corrections.
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ArgyllGran
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28 Jan 2020 11:45 |
I don't know how much later info you have. In case you don't have it, here's Robert A's marriage and death:
Robert Atkinson Pellatt in the London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932 Name: Robert Atkinson Pellatt Gender: Male Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 3 Sep 1848 Marriage Place: St John, Clerkenwell, Islington, England Father: Daniel Pellatt, gentleman Spouse: Eliza Partridge , spinster [ Father: Edward Lewis, wax chandler ] Register Type: Parish Register
Robert A was an "accomptant" .
Robert A Pellatt in the 1861 England Census Name: Robert A Pellatt Age: 35 Estimated birth year: 1826 Relation: Head Spouse's name: Eliza Pellatt Gender: Male Where born: Stoke Damerel, Devon, England Civil Parish: Hackney St John Ecclesiastical parish: West Hackney County/Island: Middlesex Country: England Street address: Occupation: Condition as to marriage: View image Registration district: Hackney Sub-registration district: West Hackney ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Neighbors: Household schedule number: 191 Piece: 156 Folio: 124 Page Number: 36 Household Members: Name Age Robert A Pellatt 35 - solicitor's general clerk Eliza Pellatt 37 Charles P Pellatt 7 Robert G Pellatt 4
Robert Atkinson Pellatt in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1837-1915 Name: Robert Atkinson Pellatt Registration Year: 1865 Registration Quarter: Jan-Feb-Mar Registration district: Poplar Inferred County: London Volume: 1c Page: 499
Robt Atkinson Pellatt in the London, England, City of London and Tower Hamlets Cemetery Registers, 1841-1966 Name: Robt Atkinson Pellatt Age: 39 Birth Date: abt 1826 Burial Date: 21 Jan 1865 Burial Place: London, England Reference Number: CTHC/01/047
Address: Beale's Place, Bow.
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Maddie
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28 Jan 2020 11:41 |
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Daniel Parker Last name Pellatt Birth year 1822 Birth date 31 Oct 1822 Baptism year 1822 Denomination Anglican Baptism place Stoke Damerel Father's first name(s) Daniel Father's occupation Clerk At Keyham Magazine Mother's first name(s) Anne Residence Dock County Devon Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office Record set Devon Baptisms
Daniel Parker Last name Pellatt Birth year 1822 Birth date 12 Sep 1822 Baptism year 1822 Baptism date 31 Oct 1822 Denomination Anglican Baptism place Stoke Damerel Father's first name(s) Daniel Mother's first name(s) Anne County Devon Archive Plymouth & West Devon Record Office
Daniel Parker Last name Pellatt Sex Male Parish Boddicot Year 1849 Spouse's first name(s) Han Spouse's last name Davis Spouse's parish Boddicot County Oxfordshire Country England
DANIEL PARKER Last name PELLATT Gender Male Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1823 Age 63 Death quarter 1 Death year 1886 District Banbury County Oxfordshire Volume 3A Page 633 Country England
1851 Boddicott, Banbury, Oxfordshire, England Daniel Parker Pellatt Head Married Male 28 1823 Solicitors General Clerk Devonport, Devon, England Hannah Pellatt Wife Married Female 18 1833 - Oxfordshire, England
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
South Bar Street, Banbury, Oxfordshire, England Daniel Parker Pellatt Head - Male 48 1823 - Devon, England Hannah Pellatt Wife - Female 38 1833 - Oxfordshire, England Anne Pellatt Daughter - Female 9 1862 - Oxfordshire, England Daniel Pellatt Son - Male 8 1863 - Oxfordshire, England Thomas Pellatt Son - Male 7 1864 - Oxfordshire, England Henry Pellatt Son - Male 2 1869 - Oxfordshire, England Jessie Mackay Governess - Female 28 1843 - Scotland Maria Brown Servant - Female 41 1830 - Oxfordshire, England Sarah Ann Meecham Servant - Female 27 1844 - Buckinghamshire, England Catherine H Wilkins Servant - Female 18 1853 - Buckinghamshire, England
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
37, South Bar Street, Banbury, Oxfordshire, England Daniel Parker Pellatt Head Married Male 58 1823 Solicitor Devonport, Devon, England Jessie Pellatt Wife Married Female 38 1843 Wife Scotland Annie Pellatt Daughter Single Female 19 1862 - Banbury, Oxfordshire, England Daniel Pellatt Son Single Male 18 1863 Solicitors Articled Clerk Banbury, Oxfordshire, England Frank Pellatt Son Single Male 8 1873 Scholar Banbury, Oxfordshire, England Mary Ann Tayley Bailey Servant Single Female 33 1848 D Sert Little Tew, Oxfordshire, England Mary Moss Servant Single Female 21 1860 D Sert Ascott, Oxfordshire, England
1861 1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Boddicott, Banbury, Oxfordshire, England Daniel P Pellatt Head Married Male 38 1823 Solicitor And Attorney Devon, England Hannah Pellatt Wife Married Female 28 1833 - Bodicote, Oxfordshire, England Eliza Pellatt Daughter - Female 9 1852 - Bodicote, Oxfordshire, England Martha Thompson Servant - Female 22 1839 General Labourer Wootton, Bedfordshire, England Daniel P Pellatt's Census Details
Daniel Parker Pellatt
in the UK, Articles of Clerkship, 1756-1874
Clerk's Name: Daniel Parker Pellatt Attorney: Richard Henry Rolls Filing Date: 4 Aug 1854 Parish or Town: Bodicote near Banbury County: Oxfordshire
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Valerie
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28 Jan 2020 08:28 |
Thanks everyone A few more gaps filled thanks to you all, also I'm trying to piece together what happened to the children after the death of Daniel. I found in the 1841 Census that 2 of the children Robert Atkinson age 15 and Charles Bradley age 9 were living with a Sarah Pellatt at Orchard Place Plumstead Kent It does not give the name of the husband, just says Male age 55. I know that the 3rd son Arthur died age 3 in 1832, just wonder what happened to the eldest son Daniel bapt 31/10/1822 who would have been about 10 at the time his father died. this family has got me hooked many thanks again Val
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SylviaInCanada
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28 Jan 2020 00:41 |
AG .............
I tried and tried to find those, and couldn't, but then Ancestry started acting up ("sorry, this page is not available"), so I gave up (and went for a nap!!)
They are assumptions .......... but the nearest I've come to finding anything.
There's quite a bit on Google for Fortunatus ....... his will, and various other bits of his life, if Valerie has not found them
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ArgyllGran
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27 Jan 2020 23:16 |
The supposed birth of Francis as in the trees:
Francis Pellat in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: Francis Pellat Gender: Male Baptism Date: 28 Apr 1750 Baptism Place: Wye, Kent, England Father: Francis Pellat Mother: Mary Pellat FHL Film Number: 1785905
And the supposed death:
Francis Pellett in the Essex, England, Church of England Deaths and Burials, 1813-1994 Name: Francis Pellett Age: 78 Birth Date: abt 1749 Death Date: abt 1827 Burial Date: 7 Mar 1827 Burial Place: Aveley, St Michael, Essex, England
Both on Ancestry
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ArgyllGran
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27 Jan 2020 22:59 |
Susannah Pellatt England, Essex Parish Registers, 1538-1997 Name: Susannah Pellatt Event Type: Burial Event Date: 04 Mar 1828 Event Place: , Aveley, Essex, England Age: 70
This is the nearest I can find to that 1760 birth on the trees. It would also fit the apparent YOB suggested by age 70 at death:
Susanna Saltmarsh England, Essex Parish Registers, 1538-1997 Name: Susanna Saltmarsh Event Type: Christening Event Date: 23 Apr 1758 Event Place: Essex, England Gender: Female Father's Name: Thomas Saltmarsh Mother's Name: Elizabeth Saltmarsh
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Francis Pellatt in the Essex, England, Church of England Marriages, 1754-1935 Name: Francis Pellatt Gender: Male Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 21 May 1778 Marriage Place: West Thurrock, St Clement, Essex, England Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map: View this parish Spouse: Susannah Saltmarsh
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SylviaInCanada
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27 Jan 2020 22:17 |
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Is this the record that they are assuming is Francis' baptism?
From Ancestry, no image to check .....
England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Mary Pellat Gender: Female Spouse: Francis Pellat Child: Francis Pellat
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SylviaInCanada
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27 Jan 2020 21:45 |
There are a number of Pellatt Family Trees on Ancestry, most of which have probably taken from each other.
But a common thread seems to be Francis Pellatt married a Susannah Saltbrush 21 May 1778
Susannah is said to have been born in 1760 in West Thurrock, Essex, and died March 1828 (buried 4 March), Aveley, Essex.
Francis is said to have been born in 1750 in Wye, Kent, and died in 1827 Aveley.
I have found NO proof of these dates.
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SylviaInCanada
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27 Jan 2020 21:15 |
Two more children with parents Francis and Susanna. Baptised on the same day, ?? twins ....
Essex Baptism Index 1538-1920
First name(s) Henry Last name Pellatt Baptism year 1784 County Essex Country England Place West Thurrock Mother's first name(s) Susannah Father's first name(s) Francis Father's last name Pellatt Baptism date 09 May 1784 Archive Essex Record Office Archive reference D/P 374/1/4 Category Life Events (BDMs)
First name(s) Sarah Last name Pellatt Baptism year 1784 County Essex Country England Place West Thurrock Mother's first name(s) Susannah Father's first name(s) Francis Father's last name Pellatt Baptism date 09 May 1784 Archive Essex Record Office Archive reference D/P 374/1/4 Category Life Events (BDMs)
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ArgyllGran
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27 Jan 2020 20:51 |
"Daniel Pellatt, clerk and inspector of stores, was listed as a resident of the Keyham Point Magazine in 1830."
https://tinyurl.com/tapausa
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ArgyllGran
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27 Jan 2020 20:50 |
~the only baptism of a Daniel Pellatt c1786 that I can see is in Queenborough, Kent - nowhere near Devonport, but not far from Chatham.
I'll post it in case he came from a naval family:
Daniel Pellatt England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: Daniel Pellatt Residence Place: Queenborough, Kent, England Gender: Male Christening Date: 14 May 1786 Christening Date (Original): 14 May 1786 Christening Place: Queenborough, Kent, England Father's Name: Daniel Pellatt Mother's Name: Elizabeth Pellatt
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SylviaInCanada
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27 Jan 2020 20:47 |
Fortunatus marriage, from FMP
Kent Marriages And Banns
Role Groom Record set Kent Marriages And Banns First name(s) Fortunatus Last name Pellatt Marriage year 1811 Spouse's first name(s) Sarah Spouse's last name Boulter County Kent Country England Place Lee, St Margaret Marital status B Residence o.t.p. Marriage date 20 May 1811 Spouse's marital status S Spouse's residence O.T.S. Banns or licence B Witnesses Wm & Frances Bush. Notes Bns 5,12,19 May Supplier Kent Family History Society Record source West Kent Marriage Index, Lee marriages 1579-1812
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ArgyllGran
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27 Jan 2020 20:46 |
There's mention here of a Daniel Pellatt, clerk, at Keyham Point, in "The Official Kalendar for 1831".
https://tinyurl.com/uurmjrj
[As in your OP ]
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ArgyllGran
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27 Jan 2020 20:39 |
For our reference re Daniel:
Baptism of son:
Name: Robert Atkinson Pellatt Event Type: Baptism Event Date: 03 Oct 1826 Event Place: Stoke-Damerel, Devon, England Father's Name: Daniel Pellatt Mother's Name: Ann Pellatt
Daniel Pellatt mentioned in the record of Robert Atkinson Pellatt Other information in the record of Robert Atkinson Pellatt Name: Robert Atkinson Pellatt Event Type: Baptism Event Date: 03 Oct 1826 Event Place: Stoke-Damerel, Devon, England Father's Name: Daniel Pellatt Mother's Name: Ann Pellatt
Daniel is described as "Gentleman", and they lived in Devonport.
Daniel's death:
Daniel Pellett England, Devon, Parish Registers, 1538-1912 Name: Daniel Pellett Event Type: Burial Event Date: 1833 Event Place: Devon Age: 47 Birth Year (Estimated): 1786 Source Reference: 166/88
His address given as Keyham Point. Keyham Point is near Devonport.
"In the 1720s the Board of Ordnance consolidated its gunwharf activity within new, purpose-built sites at Chatham, Portsmouth and Devonport). Some years later, the Board began to design and build gunpowder magazine depots (nearby, but at a more-or-less safe distance): at Priddy's Hard near Gosport (from 1771) and at Keyham Point near Devonport (from 1775)." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Naval_Armaments_Depot
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ArgyllGran
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27 Jan 2020 20:26 |
For our reference re location:
Fortunatus Pellatt England, Essex Parish Registers, 1538-1997 Name: Fortunatus Pellatt Event Type: Christening Event Date: 1786 Event Place: , Aveley, Essex, England Gender: Male Father's Name: Francis Pellatt Mother's Name: Susanna Pellatt
Francis and Susanna had other children baptised in Aveley -
Thomas, 9 Sept 1781 Francis, 25 June 1779 Theophilus, 1787
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