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ArgyllGran
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24 Jan 2020 12:46 |
No sign of William Jackson Barker (born Sept qr 1863) in 1871 with his mother Annie.
If this is his death, then he's not the person who married Fanny Jackson:
BARKER, WILLIAM JACKSON 2 GRO Reference: 1866 J Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 167
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24 Jan 2020 12:39 |
But by 1881 Edwin has another wife:
Mary L. Sutton in the 1881 England Census Name: Mary L. Sutton Age: 11 Estimated birth year: abt 1870 Relationship to Head: Daughter Father: Edwin Sutton Mother: Jane Sutton Gender: Female Where born: Longton, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Stoke Upon Trent County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: 76 Edensor Rd Education: Employment status: View image Occupation: Scholar Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent Sub registration district: Longton ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Neighbors: Piece: 2735 Folio: 132 Page Number: 22 Household Members: Name Age Edwin Sutton 47 Jane Sutton 27 Frederick A. Sutton 17 Charlotte Sutton 16 Mary L. Sutton 11 Anne Sutton 4 Thomas Sutton 3 John W. Sutton 2 Margaret Sutton 1 Hannah Sutton 1
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Edwin Sutton in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 Name: Edwin Sutton Gender: Male Age: 40 Birth Date: 1835 Marriage Date: 9 Aug 1875 Marriage Place: Edensor, Stafford, England Father: Thomas Sutton Spouse: Jane Symer FHL Film Number: 1470945 Reference ID: p142 cn284
SUTTON, HANNAH mms LYMER GRO Reference: 1880 J Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 282
Annie's death ??:
Deaths Jun 1873 (>99%) Sutton Anne 38 Stoke T. 6b 142
Joseph Barker's death:
BARKER, JOSEPH 40 GRO Reference: 1864 M Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 162
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24 Jan 2020 12:34 |
safc posted 1861 for Joseph and Annie (nee Hamilton) Barker.
By 1871 Annie has remarried:
Annie Sutton in the 1871 England Census Name: Annie Sutton Age: 37 Estimated birth year: 1834 Relation: Wife Gender: Female Where born: Longton Staffordshire England Civil Parish: Stoke upon Trent Ecclesiastical parish: St James County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent Sub-registration district: Longton ED, institution, or vessel: 16 Household schedule number: 87 Piece: 2876 Folio: 37 Page Number: 19 Household Members: Name Age Edwin Sutton 37 Annie Sutton 37 Frederic A Sutton 7 Annie Barker 14 Eliza B Barker 12 Charlotte Sutton 4 Mary L Sutton 1
Edwin Sutton in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 Name: Edwin Sutton Gender: Male Age: 32 Birth Date: 1834 Marriage Date: 1866 Marriage Place: St James', Longton, Stafford, England Father: Thomas Sutton Spouse: Anna Barker FHL Film Number: 1471085 Reference ID: 2:3F9MHDL
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24 Jan 2020 12:12 |
Ancestry ??
William Barker in the 1891 England Census Name: William Barker Gender: Male Age: 30 Relationship: Head Birth Year: 1861 Spouse: Fanny Barker Child: Thomas Barker Mary A Barker Florence M Barker Birth Place: Fenton, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Stoke upon Trent Ecclesiastical parish: Lane End St John Residence Place: Fenton, Stoke upon Trent, Staffordshire, England Registration district: Stoke Upon Trent Sub registration district: Fenton ED, Institution or Vessel: 1 Neighbors: Piece: 2178 Folio: 11 Household Members: Name Age William Barker 30 Fanny Barker 31 Thomas Barker 9 Mary A Barker 8 Florence M Barker 3
One birth at random, as proof it's the right family:
BARKER, FLORENCE MAY mms JACKSON GRO Reference: 1887 J Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 270
William Barker in the 1901 England Census Name: William Barker Age: 40 Estimated birth year: abt 1861 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Fanny Barker Birth Place: Fenton, Staffordshire, England Civil Parish: Fenton Ecclesiastical parish: Fenton Christchurch Town: Fenton County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Registration district: Stoke upon Trent Sub-registration district: Fenton ED, institution, or vessel: 18 Neighbors: Piece: 2613 Folio: 111 Page Number: 9 Household schedule number: 51 Household Members: Name Age William Barker 40 Fanny Barker 40 Edward T Barker 19 Mary Annie Barker 18 Florence May Barker 13 Ethel Barker 8 William Henry Barker 6
William Barker in the 1911 England Census Name: William Barker Age in 1911: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1861 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Fenton, Staffordshire Civil Parish: Fenton County/Island: Staffordshire Country: England Street address: 16 Hill St, Heron Cross, Fenton, Staffordshire Marital status: Married Occupation: Potters Placer Registration district: Stoke upon Trent Registration District Number: 361 Sub-registration district: Fenton ED, institution, or vessel: 15 Piece: 16585 Household Members: Name Age William Barker 50 Fanny Barker 51 Frederick Evans 19
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ErikaH
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24 Jan 2020 10:53 |
Marie
You implied that you'd located William in 1891 - so which site were you using?
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ArgyllGran
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24 Jan 2020 10:13 |
Also GRO:
www.gro.gov.uk
You have to register, but it's free to use. Very usefully gives mother's maiden surname for births 1837-1919, and 1984-2004. Also age at death, 1837-1957, and 1984-2019.
Only births and deaths in England/Wales. No marriages.
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ErikaH
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24 Jan 2020 09:26 |
familysearch is also free
https://www.familysearch.org/en/
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Marie
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23 Jan 2020 23:29 |
That's great, thank you so much
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23 Jan 2020 23:15 |
hi
you need the marriage cert
some free sites
https://www.freecen.org.uk/
http://www.staffordshirebmd.org.uk/index.php
https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/
https://www.freereg.org.uk/
https://www.freebmd.org.uk/
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Marie
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23 Jan 2020 23:12 |
No I have no marriage cert, just started looking for them as trying to help a friend.
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safc
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23 Jan 2020 23:09 |
hi ???? do you have the marriage cert for
william jackson barker 1881
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Marie
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23 Jan 2020 23:06 |
Thank you so much for all of that, been a great help. What sites do you use to find this info, free ones?
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23 Jan 2020 23:00 |
Census Year County Place Civil Parish Ecclesiastical Parish Piece Enumeration District Folio Page Schedule House Number House or Street Name 1861 Staffordshire (STS) Longton Longton St James 1943 0 3 1 6 56 High Street Surname Forenames Relationship Marital Status Sex Age Occupation Birth County Birth Place Disability Notes BARKER Joseph Head M M 37 Printer Book Binder&stationer STS Longton BARKER Annie Wife M F 26 STS Longton BARKER Annie S. Dau - F 4 Scholar STS Longton BARKER Eliza B. Dau - F 1 STS Longton xxxxxxx
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23 Jan 2020 23:00 |
Staffordshire Marriage indexes for the years: 1853 Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Year Church / Register Office Registers At Reference BARKER Joseph HAMILTON Anne 1853 Stoke, St Peter Stoke-On-Trent 31/10/014.
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23 Jan 2020 22:59 |
Staffordshire Birth indexes for the years: 1859 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference BARKER Eliza Betsy HAMILTON 1859 Longton Stoke-On-Trent LGN/027/087
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Marie
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23 Jan 2020 22:54 |
Thank you so much for all of that. Got a bit more to go on now. What sites do you tend to use to find this info, ones that are free to use?
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23 Jan 2020 22:48 |
Staffordshire Birth indexes for the years: 1863 Surname Forename(s) Mother's Maiden Name Year Sub-District Registers At Reference BARKER William Jackson HAMILTON 1863 Longton Stoke-On-Trent LGN/033/068
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23 Jan 2020 22:45 |
sibling
BARKER, JAMES RIDGE GRO Reference: 1865 J Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 229
BARKER, MARY ANN RIDGE GRO Reference: 1867 J Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 229
BARKER, MARTHA RIDGE GRO Reference: 1868 S Quarter in STOKE UPON TRENT Volume 06B Page 228
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23 Jan 2020 22:40 |
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Births Sep 1863 (>99%) BARKER William Jackson Stoke T 6b 211
Marriages Sep 1881 (>99%) BARKER William Jackson Mt. Drayton 6a 1127 xxxxxxx GREGORY Annie Mt Drayton 6a 1127 GRIFFITHS John Mt Drayton 6a 1127 JACKSON Fanny Mt.Drayton 6a 1127 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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ArgyllGran
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23 Jan 2020 22:33 |
Oops, so it is!
Sorry!
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