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21 Jan 2020 12:07 |
Hi. I am hoping that there is someone out there who can perhaps assist me to further my search for any ancestors of one Joseph Heap (1816 - 1888 ??) who was married to a lady by the name of Sarah Swain (1818 - 1890). He was a school master and on retirement they went to live at Wadsworth House in Oxenhope where he died.
The 1841 census states that he was teaching at a school in Cumberworth near Huddersfield.
Any additional information would be most appreciated. Thank you.
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alviegal
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21 Jan 2020 12:20 |
So this is the 1841 for him. Sorry I have no idea where Oxenhope is but I assume it's Yorkshire?
1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Scisset, High Hoyland, Ecclesfield, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Joseph Heap Male schoolmaster 25 1816 Yorkshire, England Sarah Heap Female 20 1821 Yorkshire, England George Heap Male 3 1838 Yorkshire, England John Heap Male 1 1840 Yorkshire, England James Benn Male 60 1781 Yorkshire, England William Swain Male 9 1832 Yorkshire, England
EDIT Ok a quick google shows it to be nr Bradford, W Yorkshire.
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
South Elmsall, Hemsworth, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Joseph Heap Head Married Male 35 1816 Schoolmaster Yorkshire, England Sarah Heap Wife Married Female 33 1818 Scholar Mis Kirkburton, Yorkshire, England George Heny Heap Son - Male 12 1839 Scholar Kirkburton, Yorkshire, England John Swain Heap Son - Male 11 1840 Scholar Yorkshire, England Charlotte E Heap Daughter - Female 9 1842 Scholar High Hoyland, Yorkshire, England Edward Y Heap Son - Male 7 1844 Scholar High Hoyland, Yorkshire, England Samuel W Heap Son - Male 3 1848 - South Elmsall, Yorkshire, England William A Heap Son - Male 1 1850 - South Elmsall, Yorkshire, England
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Lower Town, Haworth, Keighley, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Joseph Heap Head Married Male 44 1817 School Master & Wislogan Local Prancher (Wesleyan local preacher) Holmfirth, Yorkshire, England Sarah Heap Wife Married Female 42 1819 School Masters Wife Yorkshire, England Charlotte Elizth Heap Daughter Unmarried Female 19 1842 Assistant Teacher Huddersfield, Yorkshire, England William Arthur Heap Son - Male 11 1850 Scholar Pontefract, Yorkshire, England Albert Elias Heap Son - Male 9 1852 Scholar Pontefract, Yorkshire, England Joseph Herbert Heap Son - Male 6 1855 Scholar Haworth, Yorkshire, England Mary Annie Heap Daughter - Female 2 1859 - Haworth, Yorkshire, England Walter Bullass Boarder - Male 11 1850 Scholar Rotherham, Yorkshire, England
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Chapel Houses, Haworth, Keighley, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Joseph Heape Head - Male 55 1816 schoolmaster &Wesleyan preacher - Yorkshire, England Sarah Heape Wife - Female 53 1818 schoolmistress - Yorkshire, England Albert Elias Heape Son - Male 19 1852 - Yorkshire, England Mary Annie Heape Daughter - Female 12 1859 - Yorkshire, England Charles Swaine Heape Son - Male 7 1864 - Yorkshire, England Alice Ann Whitaker Grandchild - Female 3 1868 - Yorkshire, England
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21 Jan 2020 12:20 |
For our info.
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Lowertown, Haworth, Keighley, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Joseph Heap Head Married Male 65 1816 Clerk To Local Board Holmfirth, Yorkshire, England Sarah Heap Wife Married Female 63 1818 Clerks Wife Holmfirth, Yorkshire, England Joseph H Heap Son Single Male 27 1854 Master Tailor Yorkshire, England Charles S Heap Son Single Male 17 1864 Worsted Operative Yorkshire, England Albert E Heap Son Married Male 29 1852 Woolbroker South Elmsall, Yorkshire, England Hannah Heap Daughter In Law Married Female 29 1852 Brokers Wife Shepley, Yorkshire, England Charlotte E Heap Grand Daughter Single Female 4 1877 Scholar Bradford, Yorkshire, England Sarah Louisa Heap Grand Daughter Single Female 0 1881 - Bradford, Yorkshire, England
----------------------------------- Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: HEAP, ALBERT ELIAS SWAIN GRO Reference: 1852 M Quarter in HEMSWORTH Volume 09C Page 86
HEAP, GEORGE HENRY SWAINE GRO Reference: 1838 D Quarter in HUDDERSFIELD UNION Volume 22 Page 360
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greyghost
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21 Jan 2020 12:26 |
Marriage cert. would name his Father
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Sep 1837 (>99%)
HEAP Joseph Huddersfield 22 407 Scan available - click to view SWAIN Sarah Huddersfield 22 407
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21 Jan 2020 12:31 |
Joseph Heap in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 No Image Text-only collection Report issue Name: Joseph Heap Gender: Male Marriage Date: 24 Aug 1837 Marriage Place: Kirkburton, York, England Spouse: Sarah Swain FHL Film Number: 993694 Reference ID: p10 no19
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greyghost
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21 Jan 2020 12:35 |
Available on ancestry -
Joseph Heap in the West Yorkshire, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1813-1935
Name: Joseph Heap Marriage Age: Full Age Event Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 24 Aug 1837 Marriage Place: Kirkburton, All Hallows, Yorkshire, England Parish as it Appears: Kirkburton, All Hallows Search Photos: Search for 'Kirkburton, All Hallows' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Spouse: Sarah Swain
From image - No Father named He is of full age , a Bachelor and Occupation looks like Clothier? Living at ? Holling House. She is aged 20, a spinster, living at Haddingley. Her Father Samuel a ? Cropper Witnesses - John Charlesworth and John Smith
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greyghost
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21 Jan 2020 12:44 |
??? Born a couple of years before census dates. No Father on Marriage cert. so ---
Hepworth is a small village to the southeast of Holmfirth and southwest of Jackson Bridge in West Yorkshire, England. It is in the metropolitan borough of Kirklees and the parish of Holme Valley.
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Name: Joseph Heap Gender: Male Christening Date: 16 Oct. 1814 Christening Date (Original): 16 Oct 1814 Christening Place: Hepworth Wesleyan, Jackson Bridge, York, England Birth Date: 12 Sep 1814 Mother's Name: Hannah Heap
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alviegal
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21 Jan 2020 12:49 |
Commission of Bankrupt bearing Date the 17th Day of June, 1820, awarded and issued forth against WILLIAM HEAP and JOSEPH HEAP, both of Hepworth, in the Parish of Kirliburton, in the County of York, Clothiers and Co-partners, Dealers and Chapmen 23 February 1822 - Leeds Mercury - Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Perhaps one of these men is his father? Or uncles if the baptism above is his.
His death notice.
Heap.— On the 6th instant, at Wadsworth House, Oxenhope, Joseph Heap, in his 74th year. 10 November 1888 - York Herald - York, Yorkshire, England
One of his son's death.
Same day, aged 10, Samuel Walter, son of Mr. Joseph Heap, schoolmaster. Lower Town, near Keighley. 12 November 1857 - Bradford Observer - Bradford, Yorkshire, England
March 31 at the Wesleyan chapel, Oxenhope, Mr. Joseph Whitaker, grocer and butcher, to Charlotte Elizabeth, eldest daughter of Mr. Joseph Heap, Wesleyan schoolmaster, Oxenhope. 05 April 1866 - Bradford Observer - Bradford, Yorkshire, England
January 6th at 7 Westfield-terrace, aged 74, Sarah relict of the late Joseph Heap, of Oxenhope. 09 January 1892 - Leeds Times - Leeds, Yorkshire, England
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greyghost
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21 Jan 2020 12:53 |
an Ancestry tree has this -
Joseph Heap from tree Heap Family Tree Record information. Birth 1816 Holmfirth Yorkshire England Marriage 24/08/1837 Kirkburton Yorkshire England Residence 1881 Haworth Yorkshire England Death 11/06/1888 Oxenhope Yorkshire England
It shows his Mother as Hannah and Father as Joseph but no documentation to back this up.
Family search shows various marriages for a Hannah Heap between 1800 and 1820 in Kirkburton (and other places) where Joseph married
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Maddie
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21 Jan 2020 13:14 |
COULD THIS BE BAPT RELATING TO ANCESTRY TREE MAYBE NOT
Name: Joseph Heap Age: 9 Record Type: Baptism Birth Date: 12 Sep 1814 Baptism Date: 28 Sep 1823 Baptism Place: Kirkburton, All Hallows, Yorkshire, England Parish as it Appears: Kirkburton, All Hallows Search Photos: Search for 'Kirkburton, All Hallows' in the UK City, Town and
but a brother ????
Jonas Heap Age: 0 Record Type: Baptism Birth Date: 4 Sep 1823 Baptism Date: 28 Sep 1823 Baptism Place: Kirkburton, All Hallows, Yorkshire, England Parish as it Appears: Kirkburton, All Hallows Search Photos: Search for 'Kirkburton, All Hallows' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Father: Heap Mother: Hannah Heap
jonas Last name Heap Birth year 1823 Birth date 04 Sep 1823 Baptism year 1823 Baptism date 28 Sep 1823 Church All Hallows Place Kirkburton County Yorkshire (West Riding) Mother's first name(s) Hannah Mother's last name - Father's first name(s) - Father's occupation Spinster Address Scholes Country England Record set Huddersfield Baptisms
Abraham Last name Whitehead Name note - Marriage year 1824 Marriage date 11 Nov 1824 Marriage place Kirkburton Spouse's first name(s) Hannah Spouse's last name Heap Residence Kirkburton, York, England County Yorkshire Country England Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
1841 Paris, Kirkburton, Huddersfield, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England Abraham Whitehead Male 40 1801 Yorkshire, England Hannah Whitehead Female 45 1796 Yorkshire, England Frank Whitehead Male 15 1826 Yorkshire, England Flora Whitehead Female 13 1828 Yorkshire, England Sarah Whitehead Female 5 1836 Yorkshire, England Cato Whitehead Male 8 1833 Yorkshire, England Jonas Heap Male 17 1824 Yorkshire, England
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greyghost
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21 Jan 2020 13:24 |
If Hannah was a single Mum - there are unfortunately several baptisms (to go with the several marriages) in the Kirkburton/Holmforth areas 1777 - 1790 but also other places
Kirkburton 1777 - Father John 1782 - Father Christopher 1792 - Father Daniel 1795 - Father Ellis
1793 - Father Joseph, Mother Mally at Lane Independent, Holmforth 1795 - Father Joshua , Mother Sarah at Lydgate English Presbyterian, Kirkburton
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greyghost
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21 Jan 2020 13:32 |
Baptised twice then Maddie ? Same birthdate. My post shows Wesleyan baptism 1814, yours shows All Hallows in Kirkburton 1823.
I have a number of siblings for one of my ancestors all baptised CofE but just one shows in a Wesleyan too. If you can get to see an original of the baptism you might be able to see what I did - the Mother's parents were named - very helpful !
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Maddie
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21 Jan 2020 13:43 |
sorry said maybe not because father is joseph somehow didnt paste this bit
Mother's first name(s) Hannah Mother's last name - Father's first name(s) Joseph Father's occupation Clothier Address Scholes Country England
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21 Jan 2020 13:52 |
Have found an original image for the 1814 baptism.
Joseph son of Hannah Heap of Scholes in the parish of Kirkburton was born Sept 12th and Baptised Oct 16th 1814
The event took place at Nether Thong - google Netherthong Wesleyan Chapel.
Netherthong close to Holmforth
Got to go out now.
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Maddie
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21 Jan 2020 13:59 |
nnah ???? Hannah Last name Heap Birth year 1793 Birth date 12 Feb 1793 Baptism year 1793 Baptism date 10 Mar 1793 Place Holmfirth Birth place as transcribed Holmfirth Near Huddersfield Denomination Independent Father's first name(s) Joseph Mother's first name(s) Mally County Yorkshire Country England The National Archives reference TNA/RG/4/3032 Description YORKSHIRE: Holmfirth, Lane Chapel Upper Thong, Almondbury Huddersfield (Independent): Births & Baptisms Record set England & Wales Non-Conformist Births And Baptisms
Joseph Last name Heap Age - Marriage year 1792 Marriage date 12 Nov 1792 Marriage place Kirkburton Dedication All Hallows By licence or banns Banns Spouse's first name(s) Mally Spouse's last name Earnshaw Spouse's age - Spouse's parish Kirkburton Spouse's county West Riding of Yorkshire Parish Kirkburton County Yorkshire (West Riding)
do you think jonas could be a brother
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Fellrider
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21 Jan 2020 22:45 |
Alviegal, Greyghost and Maddie
Thank you one and all for your invaluable assistance. Many of the little asides are going to be extremely helpful and although I still have some doubts as to the accuracy of Joseph Heap's DOB, 2014 or 2016, you have discovered other facts that will undoubtedly help in determining his ancestral line. I have found myself going up the wrong branches for quite some time now so you have narrowed my search pattern considerably.
Thank you again. :-)
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