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Oooooh!!! safc, you are a rock star!! So... it looks like they married the following year, then.... how I did not find this on Ancestry I do not know, but that looks very much like them! Thank you! I'll order the certificate right away... :-D (Note: I will keep this thread open until it arrives, then I will update with the details, in case anyone else comes looking later on...)

THOMSON

JOHN

JOHN THOMSON/ELIZABETH CHIRNSIDE FR557 (FR557)

M

12/08/1820

737/

40 158

Eccles

Thank you, safc and Shirley! I am not entirely sure where Burnhouses is myself, but I was given the following information by a fellow researcher/connected family member whom I met on Ancestry, which seems to indicate the Tweed Valley is in Scotland? This is what they had to say:

"Your question about John Thomson made me search out my notes and I found that I had got his place of birth from the 1861 Census when, aged 40, he was living at Thornyhill Cottage at Lesmahagow with his wife Louisa(30) and their 1 yr old son John Freeman Thomson. John senior's place of birth was recorded as Eccles, Berwickshire. This prompted me to search for his birth on Scotland's People and I found a John Thomson's birth recorded on page 158 of the Eccles Parish Records as being the illegitimate son of John Thomson and Elizabeth Chirnside of Burnhouses born 8th July 1819. I have attached a copy of the birth record that I downloaded.

This fits with what you were saying about the Chirnside name but I was unable to find the marriage anywhere on Scotland's People - or did she bring the child up herself? The name Chirnside is locally common in that part of the Tweed valley and there are later census records showing an unmarried Elizabeth Chirnsides living with a sister but by the 1861 census your John is away and married with his own family."

I will look more closely at the records you have both shared, thank you for those! The dates would seem to be 'ball park' as they say! I have yet to find death or burial info for either John or Elizabeth. Thomson is such a common name in Scotland/The Borders, rather like Smith or Jones in the UK!!
:-)

Elizabeth Chirnside
mentioned in the record of Mathew Sprot

marriage:
30 June 1816



Name: Elizabeth Chirnside
Sex: Female
Husband: Mathew Sprot
Other information in the record of Mathew Sprot
from England, Northumberland, Parish Registers, 1538-1950

Name:
Mathew Sprot
Event Type:
Marriage
Event Place:
Tweedmouth, Northumberland, England, United Kingdom
Gender:
Male
Marital Status:
Single
Spouse's Name:
Elizabeth Chirnside
Spouse's Gender:
Female
Spouse's Marital Status:
Single

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CHIRNSIDE

ELIZABETH

THOMAS CHIRNSIDE/ MCDONALD FR1492 (FR1492)

F

17/12/1791

732/

60 17

Coldingham

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CHIRNSIDE

ELIZABETH

THOMAS CHIRNSIDE/SARAH MCLAREN FR1283 (FR1283)

F

08/01/1796

732/

50 215

Coldingham

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CHURNSIDE

ELIZABETH

JAMES CHURNSIDE/ANN JAMISON FR1207 (FR1207)

F

17/07/1774

732/

50 65

Coldingham


from scotlands people

Kyloe is a civil parish in the county of Northumberland, about 8 miles south-east of Berwick-on-Tweed. The grade-II-listed former Church of St Nicholas in Kyloe was built in the 18th century,

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Baptism entry While we have made all efforts to correctly record the information in the original document there may be different interpretations of the written words. If you have access to the original document and believe we have made a mistake you are encouraged to report this to us. Report an Error in this Data Field
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County Northumberland
Place Kyloe
Church name St Nicholas
Register type Transcript
Baptism date 11 Jun 1786
Person forename Elizabeth
Person sex F
Father forename James
Mother forename Ann
Father surname CHIRNSIDE
Person abode Brock Mill
Father occupation Hind
Notes Mother name uncertain as enclosed in brackets by original transcriber
Transcribed by Lynne Kermode
File line number 406

My 3 x great grandmother Elizabeth Chirnside, born in Burnhouses around 1785, had a son John Thomson (born Eccles 1819-died 1887) with John Thomson. As far as I know John and Elizabeth were never married. John Thomson (Junior) is buried in Tweedmouth Cemetary. His wife Louisa Freeman is buried in a London cemetary with some of her children and great-grandchildren.

I would very much like to find out more about the Chirnside connection - my Great Grandfather's sister Alice Chirnside (who later married a Russell) and his daughter Alice Chirnside (who died young from Parkinson's Diesase, no children) were both named after Elizabeth Chirnside, but without a marriage certificate/record it is hard to know who her parents were. William Chirnside seems to be a possinibility because of the location, but I am really not too sure. :-)