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Do you have Rosa's marriage certificate - if not it may be an idea to get it - she may name a Father on it

you all are being such a big help so gretefull

Suffolk Marriage Index

First name(s) Thomas
Last name Tweed
Marriage year 1831
Marriage date 07 Apr 1831
Marriage place Newmarket St Mary
Spouse's first name(s) Nancy
Spouse's last name Iverson
County Suffolk

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Mill Hill, Newmarket St Mary, Newmarket, Cambridgeshire & Suffolk, England

Thomas Tweed Male 30 1811 Suffolk, England
Ann Tweed Female 30 1811 Suffolk, England
Mary Tweed Female 9 1832 Suffolk, England
Sophia Tweed Female 7 1834 Suffolk, England
William Tweed Male 5 1836 Suffolk, England
James Tweed Male 0 1841 Suffolk, England
James Ranner Male 38 1803 Suffolk, England



1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Leonards Yard, Sawyers Alley, St Mary, Newmarket, Cambridgeshire & Suffolk, England

Thomas Tweed Head Married Male 52 1809 Farm Labourer Newmarket, Suffolk, England
Ann Tweed Wife Married Female 50 1811 - Newmarket, Suffolk, England
Mary Ann Tweed Daughter Unmarried Female 27 1834 Laundress Newmarket, Suffolk, England
Sophia Tweed Daughter Unmarried Female 25 1836 Laundress Newmarket, Suffolk, England
William Tweed Son Unmarried Male 23 1838 Labourer Newmarket, Suffolk, England
James Tweed Son Unmarried Male 21 1840 Labourer Newmarket, Suffolk, England
Thomas Tweed Son - Male 14 1847 Labourer Newmarket, Suffolk, England
>>Martha Tweed Daughter - Female 11 1850 - Newmarket, Suffolk, England
Virtue Tweed Daughter - Female 2 1859 - Newmarket, Suffolk, England


Plus their births with mmn.


TWEED, JAMES TWEED ...SON
GRO Reference: 1840 D Quarter in THE NEWMARKET UNION Volume 14 Page 100

TWEED, GEORGE IVESON
GRO Reference: 1843 S Quarter in THE NEWMARKET UNION Volume 14 Page 98

TWEED, FRANCES MARTHA IVESON
GRO Reference: 1848 J Quarter in THE NEWMARKET UNION Volume 14 Page 120

TWEED, HENRY IVERSON
GRO Reference: 1853 J Quarter in THE NEWMARKET UNION Volume 03B Page 504

TWEED, VIRTUE IVESON
GRO Reference: 1851 J Quarter in THE NEWMARKET UNION Volume 14 Page 125


Possible deaths

TWEED, GEORGE 1
GRO Reference: 1844 S Quarter in NEWMARKET UNION Volume 14 Page 66

TWEED, HENRY 0
GRO Reference: 1854 J Quarter in THE NEWMARKET UNION Volume 03B Page 324

TWEED, VIRTUE 1
GRO Reference: 1853 M Quarter in THE NEWMARKET UNION Volume 03B Page 378


So if Martha was Frances Martha or Martha Frances, this newspaper article could be about her. It's around the right time for Rosa.


Bastardy. Thomas Freeman was summoned as the father of the illegitimate child of Martha Frances Tweed. —The case was adjourned for a fortnight for the production of corroborative evidence.
17 August 1878 - Bury Free Press - Bury St Edmunds, Suffolk, England

I know Rosa Frances married James Charles Jeffery,hes my Husbands Grandad, Virtue Jeffery born 1905,, but two more Virtues in that tweed family

Rosa married - who does she name (if anyone) as her Father?

England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005

First name(s) ROSA FRANCES
Last name TWEED
Marriage quarter 3
Marriage year 1903
Registration month -

ROSA FRANCES TWEED married one of these people

Peter Arthur Haydon, James Jeffery, Florence Moody
District Newmarket
District number -
County Cambridgeshire
Country England
Volume 3B
Volume as transcribed 3B
Page number 1157
Record set England & Wales Marriages 1837-2005

Virtue Tweed 1861 - listed as daughter of Thomas and Ann - unlikely but not impossible, but has reverted to granddaughter by 1871 anyway

1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Leonards Yard, Sawyers Alley, St Mary, Newmarket, Cambridgeshire & Suffolk, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Tweed Head Married Male 52 1809 Farm Labourer Newmarket, Suffolk, England
Ann Tweed Wife Married Female 50 1811 - Newmarket, Suffolk, England
Mary Ann Tweed Daughter Unmarried Female 27 1834 Laundress Newmarket, Suffolk, England
Sophia Tweed Daughter Unmarried Female 25 1836 Laundress Newmarket, Suffolk, England
William Tweed Son Unmarried Male 23 1838 Labourer Newmarket, Suffolk, England
James Tweed Son Unmarried Male 21 1840 Labourer Newmarket, Suffolk, England
Thomas Tweed Son - Male 14 1847 Labourer Newmarket, Suffolk, England
Martha Tweed Daughter - Female 11 1850 - Newmarket, Suffolk, England
Virtue Tweed Daughter - Female 2 1859 - Newmarket, Suffolk, England

Charles in 1871 showing earlier birth year more likely. Perhaps more than 1 daughter having children pre marriage ! Not seeing a birth reg. for Virtue or Florence unfortunately.

1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Mill Hill, St Mary, Newmarket, Cambridgeshire & Suffolk, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Tweed Head - Male 62 1809 - Suffolk, England
Anne Tweed Wife - Female 60 1811 - Suffolk, England
Mary Ann Tweed Daughter - Female 36 1835 - Suffolk, England
Sophia Tweed Daughter - Female 34 1837 - Suffolk, England
William Tweed Son - Male 32 1839 - Suffolk, England
Thomas Tweed Son - Male 24 1847 - Suffolk, England
Martha Tweed Daughter - Female 22 1849 - Suffolk, England
Virtue Tweed Granddaughter - Female 12 1859 - Suffolk, England
Florence Tweed Granddaughter - Female 8 1863 - Suffolk, England
Charles Tweed Grandson - Male 7 1864 - Suffolk, England

Thank you very much, youve been a big help. greyghost and MargretM,

Martha Tweed is a sister here of Mary A, Harvey who's a widow. The children are all Tweeds. Martha;s children? If so she was only 13 when giving birth to Charles.

Rosa Tweed

in the 1891 England Census
View 1891 England Census



Name: Rosa Tweed
Gender: Female
Age: 14
Relationship: Niece
Birth Year: 1877
Birth Place: Newmarket, Suffolk, England
Civil Parish: Newmarket St Marys
Ecclesiastical parish: Newmarket St Marys
Residence Place: Newmarket, Newmarket St Marys, Suffolk, England
Registration district: Newmarket
Sub registration district: Newmarket
ED, Institution or Vessel: 10
Neighbors:
Piece: 1294
Folio: 21
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary A Harvey 55
Martha Tweed 39
Charles Tweed 26
Robert Tweed 19
Rosa Tweed 14

Possibly Rosa in 1881 - with Mother Martha and Grandparents Tweed

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census

14, Victory Lane, Newmarket St Mary (Suffolk), Newmarket, Cambridgeshire & Suffolk, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Thomas Tweed Head Married Male 75 1806 Stone Masons Laborer Newmarket, Suffolk, England
Ann Tweed Wife Married Female 73 1808 - Newmarket, Suffolk, England
Mary Ann Harvey Daughter Widow Female 46 1835 Laundress Newmarket, Suffolk, England
Sophy Tweed Daughter Single Female 44 1837 Charwoman Newmarket, Suffolk, England
Martha Tweed Daughter Single Female 28 1853 Charwoman Newmarket, Suffolk, England
Charles Tweed Grand Son Single Male 16 1865 Bricklayers Laborer Newmarket, Suffolk, England
Robert Tweed Grand Son Single Male 11 1870 Scholar Newmarket, Suffolk, England
Rosa Tweed Grand Daughter Single Female 3 1878 - Newmarket, Suffolk, England
Florence Harvey Grand Daughter Single Female 18 1863 General Servant (Day) Newmarket, Suffolk, England

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? Charles birth reg. (also shows no mmn) Born earlier than census implies, would make Martha really young if he was hers)

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
TWEED, CHARLES -
GRO Reference: 1863 S Quarter in NEWMARKET Volume 03B Page 507

Birth reg. shows no Mother's maiden name, looks like an illegitimate birth. In which case you may never know who the Father was.

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
TWEED, ROSA FRANCES -
GRO Reference: 1877 S Quarter in NEWMARKET Volume 03B Page 519

I am looking for Martha Tweed ,I know from the birth Certificate of the birth of her daughter Rosa Frances Tweed 1877, that they were in Newmarket , but stuggling. to find mother and father of Martha,and if they were from Newmarket,
Thanking anyone for any help