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marriage of Lilian Jane Stanley to William Norman

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Terence

Terence Report 31 Dec 2019 03:41

Am trying to find the marriage of a Lilian Jane Stanley, to a William Norman.(possibly between 1913-1915)
She was born in Worcestershire in 1894, Father Charles Stanley and Mother Jane Viner.
In 1913, she gave birth to William Norman STANLEY,(out of Marriage) then in
1915, Charles Henry Frank NORMAN
1919 Lilian May NORMAN
1924 Robert Frederick NORMAN.

In 1933 she remarried (Lilian Jane NORMAN) an Albert Evans, and on the Marriage certificate, claims to be a Widow, age 39, and her father was Charles Stanley, a Salt maker. I have a copy of the Marriage certificate. On the birth certificates of Charles, Lilian and Robert, their father is William NORMAN>

Cannot find a reference to the marriage of Lilian Stanley to William Norman, or the death of William Norman in Wocestershire between 1924 (Birth of Robert NORMAN and 1933, the marriage of Lilian to Albert EVANS>

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 31 Dec 2019 05:38

Have you tried freebmd. That’s where we would look

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 31 Dec 2019 05:44

Doesn’t look like she married him unless it was in Scotland


Edit not in Scotland either

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 31 Dec 2019 09:40

If they didn’t marry, as seems probable, William could have still been living

Do you know where her children were in 1939?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 31 Dec 2019 09:51

ROBERT F
Last name NORMAN
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1925
Age 23
Death quarter 2
Death year 1948
District Worcester
County Worcestershire
Volume 9D
Page 226
Country England
Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials
Collections from Great Britain, England
(c) brightsolid online publishing ltd

So still in the same county

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 31 Dec 2019 10:05

Two of the Norman children living with them

Albert Evans
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 8 Feb 1896
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 32
Residence Place: Worcester, Worcestershire, England
Occupation: Engineering Works Labourer
Schedule Number: 100
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: QICJ
Registration district: 377
Inferred Spouse: Lilian Evans
Household Members:
Name
Albert Evans
Lilian Evans
Stanley W Norman
Lilian M Norman


Stanley W Norman
Gender: Male
Marital status: Single
Birth Date: 23 Sep 1913


Register
View 1939 England and Wales Register
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Report issue
Name: Lilian M Norman. (Lowe)]
Gender: Female
Marital status: Single
Birth Date: 31 Dec 1919

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 31 Dec 2019 10:09

A tree on ancestry has this for the father

SearchTools
William Henry Norman
1861–1930
BIRTH 15 JUL 1861 • 20 Dartmouth Row Westminster,Middlesex
DEATH 7 APRIL 1930 • Royal Hospital Waterloo Rd Camberwell, London, England


Married


Rose Hannah Kate Hutchings
1864–1948
BIRTH 02 NOV 1864 • 5 Francis St Pimlico Westminster London
DEATH 24 APR 1948 • St John's Hospital Battersea


Seems a long way from Worcester !

Was still in London in 1911

View 1911 England Census
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Report issue
Name: William Henry Norman
Age in 1911: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1861
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: London, United Kingdom
Civil Parish: Newington St Mary
Search Photos: Search for 'Newington St Mary' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
County/Island: London
Country: England
Street address: 49 Bedford St, Walworth, London S E
Marital status: Married
Occupation: HOUSE PAINTER
Registration district: Southwark
Registration District Number: 23
Sub-registration district: Newington North
ED, institution, or vessel: 17
Piece: 1809
Household Members:
Name Age
William Henry Norman 50
Rossetta Norman 46
William Norman 24
Herbert Norman 20
Sidney Norman 16
Leonard Norman 2


Would be too old for ww1 service so if this is him why would he be in Worcester in 1913

Maddie

Maddie Report 31 Dec 2019 13:40

ancestry suggests this
1891

Name: Lily Jane Stanley
Age: 7
Estimated birth year: abt 1894
Relation to Head: Daughter
Gender: Female
Father: Charles Stanley
Mother: Bertha Stanley
Birth Place: Northfield, Worcestershire, England
Civil Parish: Kings Norton
Search Photos: Search for 'Kings Norton' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: Kings Norton St Nicholas
Town: Kings Norton
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Kings Norton
Sub-registration district: Kings Norton
ED, institution, or vessel: 08
Neighbors:
Piece: 2804
Folio: 95
Page Number: 30
Household schedule number: 192
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Stanley 28
Bertha Stanley 28
Lily Jane Stanley 7
Bertha Stanley 9/12
Robert Maron 60

Name: Charles Stanley
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1877
Enlistment Age: 38
Marriage Date: 24 May 1902
Marriage Place: All Saints Church Kings Heath B'ham
Document Year: 1915
Residence Place: Stoke Heath, Bromsgrove
Regimental Number: ??75
Regiment Name: Royal Warwickshire Regiment, Garrison Battalion
Number of Images: 7
Form Title: Short Service Attestation
Other Records: Search for 'Charles Stanley' in other WWI collections
Family Members:
Name Relation to Soldier
Charles Stanley Self (Head)
Agnes Mary Haughty Spouse
Bertha Jane Stanley Child
Florence Ellen Stanley Child
Henry Francis Stanley Child
William Eila Stanley Child
Alfred Ernest Stanley Child
Agnes Mary Stanley Child
??ly Phyllis Stanley Child
Charlis Frederick Stanley Child

Name: Lilian J Evans
Death Age: 69
Birth Date: abt 1894
Registration Date: Apr 1963
[May 1963]
[Jun 1963]
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Worcester
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume: 9d
Page: 275

father 1939

Name: Charles Stanley
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: 30 May 1874
Residence Year: 1939
Address: Stoke Heath
Residence Place: Bromsgrove, Worcestershire, England
Occupation: Salt Maker (Retired) -------------
Schedule Number: 77
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: QKAK
Registration district: 382/1
Inferred Spouse: Agnes M Stanley
Household Members:
Name
Charles Stanley
Agnes M Stanley
Henry F Stanley

Name: Bertha Stanley
Estimated birth year: abt 1873
Registration Year: 1901
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 28
Registration district: King's Norton
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 215

Name: Bertha Jane Atchenson
Registration Year: 1873
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: King's Norton
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 429

CHARLES
Last name STANLEY
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1900
Registration month -

MarriageFinder ™


CHARLES STANLEY married one of these people

Clara Jane Capewell, Bertha Atchesion
District Kings Norton
District number -
County Worcestershire
Country England
Volume 6C
Volume as transcribed 6C
Page number 820

Name: Jane Viner
Registration Year: 1893
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration district: King's Norton
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 780
Records on Page:
Name
William Allen
Charles Stanley
Jane Viner
Mary Ann Walker



Name: Jane Stanley
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Registration Year: 1898
Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at Death: 21
Registration district: King's Norton
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 222

CHARLES
Last name STANLEY
Marriage quarter 2
Marriage year 1902
Registration month -
CHARLES STANLEY married one of these people

Alice George, Agnes Mary Haughty
District Kings Norton
District number -
County Worcestershire
Country England
Volume 6C
Volume as transcribed 6C
Page number 720

Maddie

Maddie Report 31 Dec 2019 16:04

do you have a birth cert of children showing what williams occpation was

Terence

Terence Report 1 Jan 2020 11:12

Thankyou for all your assistance. I feel Lilian may have never married William Norman, but will have to wait until the 1921 census, Thankyou again, and a Happy New Year

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 1 Jan 2020 13:46

The 1921 census won’t help to find a non-existent marriage, unfortunately