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Terence
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31 Dec 2019 03:41 |
Am trying to find the marriage of a Lilian Jane Stanley, to a William Norman.(possibly between 1913-1915) She was born in Worcestershire in 1894, Father Charles Stanley and Mother Jane Viner. In 1913, she gave birth to William Norman STANLEY,(out of Marriage) then in 1915, Charles Henry Frank NORMAN 1919 Lilian May NORMAN 1924 Robert Frederick NORMAN.
In 1933 she remarried (Lilian Jane NORMAN) an Albert Evans, and on the Marriage certificate, claims to be a Widow, age 39, and her father was Charles Stanley, a Salt maker. I have a copy of the Marriage certificate. On the birth certificates of Charles, Lilian and Robert, their father is William NORMAN>
Cannot find a reference to the marriage of Lilian Stanley to William Norman, or the death of William Norman in Wocestershire between 1924 (Birth of Robert NORMAN and 1933, the marriage of Lilian to Albert EVANS>
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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31 Dec 2019 05:38 |
Have you tried freebmd. That’s where we would look
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31 Dec 2019 05:44 |
Doesn’t look like she married him unless it was in Scotland
Edit not in Scotland either
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ErikaH
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31 Dec 2019 09:40 |
If they didn’t marry, as seems probable, William could have still been living
Do you know where her children were in 1939?
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31 Dec 2019 09:51 |
ROBERT F Last name NORMAN Gender Male Birth day - Birth month - Birth year 1925 Age 23 Death quarter 2 Death year 1948 District Worcester County Worcestershire Volume 9D Page 226 Country England Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007 Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Civil Deaths & Burials Collections from Great Britain, England (c) brightsolid online publishing ltd
So still in the same county
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31 Dec 2019 10:05 |
Two of the Norman children living with them
Albert Evans Gender: Male Marital status: Married Birth Date: 8 Feb 1896 Residence Year: 1939 Address: 32 Residence Place: Worcester, Worcestershire, England Occupation: Engineering Works Labourer Schedule Number: 100 Sub Schedule Number: 1 Enumeration District: QICJ Registration district: 377 Inferred Spouse: Lilian Evans Household Members: Name Albert Evans Lilian Evans Stanley W Norman Lilian M Norman
Stanley W Norman Gender: Male Marital status: Single Birth Date: 23 Sep 1913
Register View 1939 England and Wales Register Add Alternative Information Report issue Name: Lilian M Norman. (Lowe)] Gender: Female Marital status: Single Birth Date: 31 Dec 1919
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31 Dec 2019 10:09 |
A tree on ancestry has this for the father
SearchTools William Henry Norman 1861–1930 BIRTH 15 JUL 1861 • 20 Dartmouth Row Westminster,Middlesex DEATH 7 APRIL 1930 • Royal Hospital Waterloo Rd Camberwell, London, England
Married
Rose Hannah Kate Hutchings 1864–1948 BIRTH 02 NOV 1864 • 5 Francis St Pimlico Westminster London DEATH 24 APR 1948 • St John's Hospital Battersea
Seems a long way from Worcester !
Was still in London in 1911
View 1911 England Census Add Alternative Information Report issue Name: William Henry Norman Age in 1911: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1861 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: London, United Kingdom Civil Parish: Newington St Mary Search Photos: Search for 'Newington St Mary' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 49 Bedford St, Walworth, London S E Marital status: Married Occupation: HOUSE PAINTER Registration district: Southwark Registration District Number: 23 Sub-registration district: Newington North ED, institution, or vessel: 17 Piece: 1809 Household Members: Name Age William Henry Norman 50 Rossetta Norman 46 William Norman 24 Herbert Norman 20 Sidney Norman 16 Leonard Norman 2
Would be too old for ww1 service so if this is him why would he be in Worcester in 1913
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31 Dec 2019 13:40 |
ancestry suggests this 1891
Name: Lily Jane Stanley Age: 7 Estimated birth year: abt 1894 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Father: Charles Stanley Mother: Bertha Stanley Birth Place: Northfield, Worcestershire, England Civil Parish: Kings Norton Search Photos: Search for 'Kings Norton' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Ecclesiastical parish: Kings Norton St Nicholas Town: Kings Norton County/Island: Worcestershire Country: England Street address:
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Employment status: View image Registration district: Kings Norton Sub-registration district: Kings Norton ED, institution, or vessel: 08 Neighbors: Piece: 2804 Folio: 95 Page Number: 30 Household schedule number: 192 Household Members: Name Age Charles Stanley 28 Bertha Stanley 28 Lily Jane Stanley 7 Bertha Stanley 9/12 Robert Maron 60
Name: Charles Stanley Gender: Male Birth Date: abt 1877 Enlistment Age: 38 Marriage Date: 24 May 1902 Marriage Place: All Saints Church Kings Heath B'ham Document Year: 1915 Residence Place: Stoke Heath, Bromsgrove Regimental Number: ??75 Regiment Name: Royal Warwickshire Regiment, Garrison Battalion Number of Images: 7 Form Title: Short Service Attestation Other Records: Search for 'Charles Stanley' in other WWI collections Family Members: Name Relation to Soldier Charles Stanley Self (Head) Agnes Mary Haughty Spouse Bertha Jane Stanley Child Florence Ellen Stanley Child Henry Francis Stanley Child William Eila Stanley Child Alfred Ernest Stanley Child Agnes Mary Stanley Child ??ly Phyllis Stanley Child Charlis Frederick Stanley Child
Name: Lilian J Evans Death Age: 69 Birth Date: abt 1894 Registration Date: Apr 1963 [May 1963] [Jun 1963] Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration district: Worcester Inferred County: Worcestershire Volume: 9d Page: 275
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Name: Charles Stanley Gender: Male Marital status: Married Birth Date: 30 May 1874 Residence Year: 1939 Address: Stoke Heath Residence Place: Bromsgrove, Worcestershire, England Occupation: Salt Maker (Retired) ------------- Schedule Number: 77 Sub Schedule Number: 1 Enumeration District: QKAK Registration district: 382/1 Inferred Spouse: Agnes M Stanley Household Members: Name Charles Stanley Agnes M Stanley Henry F Stanley
Name: Bertha Stanley Estimated birth year: abt 1873 Registration Year: 1901 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Age at Death: 28 Registration district: King's Norton Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Worcestershire Volume: 6c Page: 215
Name: Bertha Jane Atchenson Registration Year: 1873 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration district: King's Norton Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Worcestershire Volume: 6c Page: 429
CHARLES Last name STANLEY Marriage quarter 2 Marriage year 1900 Registration month -
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CHARLES STANLEY married one of these people
Clara Jane Capewell, Bertha Atchesion District Kings Norton District number - County Worcestershire Country England Volume 6C Volume as transcribed 6C Page number 820
Name: Jane Viner Registration Year: 1893 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district: King's Norton Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Worcestershire Volume: 6c Page: 780 Records on Page: Name William Allen Charles Stanley Jane Viner Mary Ann Walker
Name: Jane Stanley Estimated birth year: abt 1877 Registration Year: 1898 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Age at Death: 21 Registration district: King's Norton Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District Inferred County: Worcestershire Volume: 6c Page: 222
CHARLES Last name STANLEY Marriage quarter 2 Marriage year 1902 Registration month - CHARLES STANLEY married one of these people
Alice George, Agnes Mary Haughty District Kings Norton District number - County Worcestershire Country England Volume 6C Volume as transcribed 6C Page number 720
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Maddie
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31 Dec 2019 16:04 |
do you have a birth cert of children showing what williams occpation was
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Terence
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1 Jan 2020 11:12 |
Thankyou for all your assistance. I feel Lilian may have never married William Norman, but will have to wait until the 1921 census, Thankyou again, and a Happy New Year
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ErikaH
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1 Jan 2020 13:46 |
The 1921 census won’t help to find a non-existent marriage, unfortunately
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