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Some of this already found on earlier thread:

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1348871

Includes 1841 on Ancestry, with surname mistranscribed as Slathies.

TO BE SOLD BY AUCTION

Lot 2: 6 equal parts or shares (the whole into 8 equal parts or shares being divided) of and in all those TWO FREEHOLD COTTAGES, with large GARDENS attached, situate near the Derry Mill, in the Parish of Whitchurch, and let to Morgan Salathiel and William Howell, at the respective Annual Rents of £4 10s. Od. The Cottages are recently built and in a good state of repair.

05 September 1857 - Cardiff and Merthyr Guardian, Glamorgan, Monmouth, and Brecon Gaz

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census

Derry Mill, Whitchurch, Cardiff, Glamorganshire, Wales

George Lewis Male 35 1806 -
Mary Lewis Female 35 1806 -
George Lewis Male 8 1833 Glamorgan, Wales
Mary Lewis Female 3 1838 Glamorgan, Wales
Ellen Lewis Female 1 1840 Glamorgan, Wales
Ann Howell Female 15 1826 Glamorgan, Wales
John Phillips Male 13 1828 Glamorgan, Wales
Morgan Slathiel Male 25 1816 Glamorgan, Wales

This appears to be the one born 1802 safc.

Glamorgan Burial Index

First name(s) MORGAN
Last name SALATHIEL
Age 24
Birth year 1803
Death year 1827
Burial year 1827
Burial date 14JUL
Marital status SON OF
Mother's name -
Father's name MORGAN
Residence WALNUT TREE HOUSE
Place EGLYWSILAN ST ILAN
Parish Eglywsilan St Ilan

Ancestry doesn't seem to have transcribed Morgan on 1841 census.

The Lewis family (see safc's post above) are on one transcription, with nobody else.
Ann Howell and John Phillips are transcribed together, with nobody else.

But no sign of Morgan, as far as I can see.

1841 census

Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace
George Lewis
Male
35
Mary Lewis
Female
35
George Lewis
Male
8
Glamorgan
Mary Lewis
Female
3
Glamorgan
Ellen Lewis
Female
1
Glamorgan
Ann Howell
Female
15
Glamorgan
John Phillips
Male
13
Glamorgan
Morgan Slathiel xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Male
25
Glamorgan

?? There are other Salathiel/Thomas births , but there was another Salathiel/Thomas married couple in Whitchurch - Daniel and Selina/Cecilia, so can't say which couple the children belong to:

SALATHIEL, DAVID mms THOMAS
GRO Reference: 1852 D Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 11A Page 178

SALATHIEL, JOHN mms THOMAS
GRO Reference: 1850 S Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 26 Page 383

SALATHIEL, THOMAS mms THOMAS
GRO Reference: 1848 S Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 26 Page 371



Death:

SALATHIEL, JOHN 6
GRO Reference: 1856 J Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 11A Page 130


SALATHIEL, MORGAN 9
GRO Reference: 1850 S Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 26 Page 240

That death will relate to this birth:

Births Mar 1841 (>99%)
Slathiel Morgan Cardiff 26 366

but it doesn't show up on GRO website for mms.

Morgan Slathiel
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Morgan Slathiel
Registration Year: 1841
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Registration district: Cardiff
Inferred County: Glamorgan
Volume: 26
Page: 653
Records on Page:
Name
Morgan Slathiel
Catherine Thomas


SLATHIEL, JESSE mms THOMAS
GRO Reference: 1845 M Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 26 Page 382

SALATHIEL, DANIEL mms THOMAS
GRO Reference: 1847 J Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 26 Page 389


SLATHIEL, JANE mms THOMAS
GRO Reference: 1843 J Quarter in CARDIFF Volume 26 Page 359

When you say "No info on 1841 or 1851 census", do you mean you haven't found him in those years?

Morgan Stathrel
in the 1851 Wales Census
Name: Morgan Stathrel
[Morgan Salathiel]
Age: 35
Estimated birth year: abt 1816
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Catherine Stathrel
Gender: Male
Where born: Eglwysilan, Glamorgan, Wales
Civil Parish or Township: Whitchurch
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Glamorgan
Country: Wales
Registration district: Cardiff
Sub-registration district: Caerphilly
ED, institution, or vessel: 11a
Piece: 2454
Folio: 219
Page Number: 1
Household schedule number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
Morgan Stathrel 35 - miller
Catherine Stathrel 41
Jane Stathrel 8
Jesse Stathrel 6
Evan Evans 25 - lodger

Address: Mill Road

Baptism entry While we have made all efforts to correctly record the information in the original document there may be different interpretations of the written words. If you have access to the original document and believe we have made a mistake you are encouraged to report this to us. Report an Error in this Data Field
(only fields with a value are shown) Value
County Glamorgan
Place Eglwysilan
Church name St Ilan
Register type Parish Register
Baptism date 15 Aug 1802
Person forename MORGAN
Person sex M
Father forename MORGAN
Father surname SALATHIEL
Transcribed by Misty Abernathy
File line number 44

Good Morning All.
Can anyone help me into finding any background of my 3X Great Grandfather Morgan Salathiel born around 1815 in the parish of Eglwysilan possibly Caerphilly. No info on
1841 or 1851 Census. He was the Miller at the Deri Mill Rhiwbina Whitchurch Cardiff.
Morgan was married to Catherine and had 2 children Jane my 2X G Grandmother and
a son Jesse.Morgan died in 1864 and Catherine in 1870 both in Whitchurch.
Thanks John.