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ArgyllGran
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11 Dec 2019 09:57 |
GRO website gives mms for births in England/Wales 1837 - 1918.
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp
You have to register, but it's free to use.
It's easiest to find the likely birth on FreeBMD first, then check for mms on GRO. GRO website requires the child's surname to be entered, whereas FreeBMD lets you search more easily for possible alternative spellings, etc., or search without any surname.
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Sidami
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11 Dec 2019 08:36 |
Thankyou all so much...Shirley where did you find the info for mother’s maiden name Lamb? This was very confusing two families same names but thankyou so much fir your time.
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Kay????
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10 Dec 2019 18:25 |
Sidam,
You have the wrong children in George and Henry.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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10 Dec 2019 18:17 |
1911 census
Henry Whiter Age in 1911: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1861 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: London, United Kingdom Civil Parish: Bethnal Green Search Photos: Search for 'Bethnal Green' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 30 Streatley Buildings, Bethnal Green E C Marital status: Married Occupation: PRINTERS MACHINE MINDER Registration district: Bethnal Green Registration District Number: 17 Sub-registration district: Bethnal Green South West ED, institution, or vessel: 31 Piece: 1448 Household Members: Name Age Henry Whiter 50 Eliza Whiter 48 Albert Whiter 22 Beatrice Whiter 18 Florrice Whiter 15 Fred Whiter 14
Married 31 years 7 chiodren born 6 still living
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ArgyllGran
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10 Dec 2019 18:14 |
The Whiter family with children Albert, Beatrice, Freddy, etc is a different one from the family with Madeline and Henry on your other thread.
(Madeline & Henry's births on the other thread.)
Both sets of parents are called Henry and Eliza/Elizabeth, but one mother is Eliza Lamb, and the other is Elizabeth Chalkley/Chorkley.
Madeline & Henry's father is a cabinet maker in 1891.
The father of Beatrice et al is a printer in 1901. Not the same man.
WHITER, ALBERT EDWARD mms LAMB GRO Reference: 1889 J Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 233
WHITER, BEATRICE LOUISA mms LAMB GRO Reference: 1892 D Quarter in WHITECHAPEL Volume 01C Page 247
WHITER, GEORGE ALFRED mms LAMB GRO Reference: 1886 S Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 225
WHITER, HENRY THOMAS mms LAMB GRO Reference: 1882 J Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 241
The other Henry (mms Chalkley) was born in 1890.
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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10 Dec 2019 18:14 |
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: WHITER, HENRY THOMAS LAMB GRO Reference: 1882 J Quarter in BETHNAL GREEN Volume 01C Page 241
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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10 Dec 2019 18:12 |
Henry Whiter Gender: Male Marriage Age: 20 Record Type: Marriage Birth Date: abt 1860 Marriage Date: 21 Mar 1880 Marriage Place: St Mary, Haggerston, Hackney, England Father: James Whiter Spouse: Eliza Lamb Register Type: Parish Register
View London, England, Church of England Marriages and Banns, 1754-1932 Add Alternative Information Report issue Name: Eliza Lamb Gender: Female Marriage Age: 19 Record Type: Marriage Birth Date: abt 1861 Marriage Date: 21 Mar 1880 Marriage Place: St Mary, Haggerston, Hackney, England Father: Thomas Lamb Spouse: Henry Whiter Register Type: Parish Register
1901 census
Henry Whiter Age: 40 Estimated birth year: abt 1861 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Spouse: Eliza Whiter Birth Place: London, England Civil Parish: Bethnal Green Search Photos: Search for 'Bethnal Green' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Ecclesiastical parish: St James the Great County/Island: London Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View image Registration district: Bethnal Green Sub-registration district: Bethnal Green North ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 284 Folio: 164 Page Number: 36 Household schedule number: 198 Household Members: Name Age Henry Whiter 40 occ printer Eliza Whiter 38 Henry Whiter 19 George Whiter 15 Albert Whiter 12 Beatrice Whiter 9 Flourey Whiter 6. Florrie ! Freddy Whiter 4
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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it
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10 Dec 2019 18:09 |
Her birth
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: WHITER, FLORENCE MAUD LAMB GRO Reference: 1895 S Quarter in WHITECHAPEL Volume 01C Page 264 Her parents
Marriages Mar 1880 Lamb Eliza Shoreditch 1c 176 Whiter Henry Shoreditch 1c 176
You can check on the gro site for mothers maiden name
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Sidami
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10 Dec 2019 17:32 |
Many many thanks the thing that is confusing me is her parents were married 1887 but on the census years the two children of George and Henry were born before parents marriage. 1882 and 1886
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malyon
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10 Dec 2019 16:50 |
Marriages Dec 1925 (>99%) Whiter Florence M Langhorn Hackney 1b 762
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malyon
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10 Dec 2019 16:50 |
Marriages Dec 1925 (>99%) Whiter Florence M Langhorn Hackney 1b 762
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malyon
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10 Dec 2019 16:49 |
she was born 1895 thats before the 1901 census
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Kay????
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10 Dec 2019 16:40 |
Sidam, Florence White isn't on the 1901 census as she seems to be born after the census was taken in April.1901.
her birth reg.
***Births Sep 1895 **** (>99%)
Whiter Florence Maud Whitechapel 1c 264.
Her birth may have been a late entry into the GRO registers,? if this is her in 1901.
View blank form Add Alternative Information Report issue Name: ***Flourey Whiter*** Age: 6 Estimated birth year: abt 1895 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Father: Henry Whiter Mother: Eliza Whiter Birth Place: London, England Civil Parish: Bethnal Green Search Photos: Search for 'Bethnal Green' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Ecclesiastical parish: St James the Great County/Island: London Country: England Street address:
Occupation:
Condition as to marriage:
Education:
Employment status:
View image Registration district: Bethnal Green Sub-registration district: Bethnal Green North ED, institution, or vessel: 13 Neighbors: View others on page Piece: 284 Folio: 164 Page Number: 36 Household schedule number: 198 Household Members: Name Age Henry Whiter 40 Eliza Whiter 38 Henry Whiter 19 George Whiter 15 Albert Whiter 12 Beatrice Whiter 9 Flourey Whiter 6 Freddy Whiter 4 -----------------------------------------------
Same family in 1911,,note the spelling of her name.
View View Map Add Alternative Information Report issue Name: *****Florrice***** Whiter Age in 1911: 15 Estimated birth year: abt 1896 Relation to Head: Daughter Gender: Female Birth Place: Whitechapel Civil Parish: Bethnal Green Search Photos: Search for 'Bethnal Green' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection County/Island: London Country: England Street address: 30 Streatley Buildings, Bethnal Green E C Marital status: Single Occupation: BOX MAKER Registration district: Bethnal Green Registration District Number: 17 Sub-registration district: Bethnal Green South West ED, institution, or vessel: 31 Piece: 1448 Household Members: Name Age Henry Whiter 50 Eliza Whiter 48 Albert Whiter 22 Beatrice Whiter 18 Florrice Whiter 15 Fred Whiter 14 Save Cancel
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malyon
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10 Dec 2019 16:39 |
florence would be 16 yrs in 1911 so could be away from home
Births Sep 1895 (>99%) Whiter Florence Maud Whitechapel 1c 264
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malyon
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10 Dec 2019 16:36 |
England and Wales Census, 1901 Name: Flourey Florrie Whiter Event Type: Census Event Date: 31 Mar 1901 Event Place: Bethnal Green, London, England, United Kingdom County: London, Middlesex Civil Parish: Bethnal Green Ecclesiastical Parish: St James The Great Sub-District: Bethnal Green North Registration District: Bethnal Green Gender: Female Age: 6 Relationship to Head of Household: Daughter Birth Year (Estimated): 1895 Birthplace: London Schedule Type: 198 Page Number: 36 Household Role Sex Age Birthplace Henry Whiter Head Male 40 London Eliza Whiter Wife Female 38 London Henry Whiter Son Male 19 London George Whiter Son Male 15 London Albert Whiter Son Male 12 London Beatrice Whiter Daughter Female 9 London Flourey Florrie Whiter Daughter Female 6 London Freddy Whiter Son Male 4 London
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10 Dec 2019 16:33 |
Query possibly best posted on your other thread about Elizabeth/ Eliza Chorley/Chorkley or other variations and her marriage to Henry
https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1380823
Why not post the census you (or helpers) have found her on to help research.
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Sidami
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10 Dec 2019 15:46 |
Found her but I am a bit confused with her siblings I have her parents as Henry Whiter and Elizabeth/Eliza Chorley but on the census years I find on 1901 /1911siblings Madeline and Henry but then on the other census years I have Henry George Albert Beatrice and Freddy? Not really sure can you help me please
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Sidami
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10 Dec 2019 15:37 |
Can I have a second pair of eyes for Florence Whiter bn 1895 London on 1901/1911please thankyou
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Sidami
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10 Dec 2019 13:34 |
Thankyou all for your help.
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ErikaH
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10 Dec 2019 13:25 |
Sidami
When asking for 1939 lookups for children, as you often do, please ensure that you include the names of their parents to facilitate searching. As you know, records are closed if they are alive, or their deaths have not been picked up.
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