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James Crocket Gibson Duncan born 13/6/1894

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ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 Dec 2019 15:01

The arrival record (which we know you have already, Ellen):

James Crocket G Duncan
in the Fremantle, Western Australia, Passenger Lists, 1897-1963
Name: James Crocket G Duncan
Departure Place: London, United Kingdom
Arrival Date: 28 Feb 1933
Arrival Place: Fremantle, Western Australia, Australia
Vessel: Strathnaver

Travelling with Elizabeth.


And another version:

James C G Duncan
in the Fremantle, Western Australia, Passenger Lists, 1897-1963
Name: James C G Duncan
Gender: Male
Birth Date: abt 1894
Departure Place: London, United Kingdom
Arrival Date: 28 Feb 1932
Arrival Place: Fremantle, Western Australia, Australia
Age on Arrival: 38
Vessel: Strathnaver

Elizabeth's occupation is "home duties" and she and James are both listed as married.
But of course they may just have said so.

The date of 1932 on that second record is a clerical error on page 1 of the original document. Page 2 has 1933.

Researching:
Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 Dec 2019 14:55

First name(s) James
Last name Duncan
Gender Male
Age 38
Birth year 1895
Marital status M
Occupation CARETAKER
Departure year 1933
Departure day 26
Departure month 1
Departure port London
Destination port Fremantle
Destination FREMANTLE

UK address: Halfield Inverbervie

Travelling with an Elizabeth Duncan age 38, same address

They embarked at London.

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 Dec 2019 14:51

They could have married on board ship.

Also, OP is only surmising that Elizabeth was his wife

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 Dec 2019 14:43

Also, I'm sorry to say, I don't think Jean Millicent is necessarily with them in 1943.
Her address is given as Middleton Road, whereas James and Elizabeth are at Middleton Beach.

Anyway, she's born in Australia, 1922, so not a daughter.

Researching:
Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.

Maddie

Maddie Report 9 Dec 2019 12:24

ruls that out

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 9 Dec 2019 12:10

Not that 1922 marriage to Elizabeth Stewart Duncan.

I've had a look at the image on SP - wrong parents for James.(Alexander Duncan and Jane Duncan mms King).


DUNCAN
JAMES
DUNCAN
ELIZABETH STEWA
1922
289/ 2
Glamis

Researching:
Old genealogists never die.....they just lose their census.

Maddie

Maddie Report 9 Dec 2019 11:51

elizabeth stewart duncan ????

from tree on ancestry- marriage

24 Mar 1922 • Glamis, Angus, Scotland, United Kingdom

The Mill. Witnesses were David Kenny Hanton and Christina Suttie Duncan.
James Duncan

(1892–1974) - james died western australia


Elizabeth Stewart Duncan
1900–1985
Birth 11 SEP 1900 • Dundee, Angus, Scotland, United Kingdom
Death 05 MAY 1985 • Western Australia


James Duncan
1892–1974
Birth 9 SEP 1892 • Glamis, Angus, Scotland, United Kingdom
Death 28 NOV 1974 • Western Australia

different birth year for james

Maddie

Maddie Report 9 Dec 2019 11:40

this person with them in 1943 er

Name: Jean Millicent Duncan
Birth Date: 22 Sep 1922
Birth Place: Cobden Victoria
Year Range: 1939 - 1948
Enlistment Place: Melbourne
Service Number: 90937
Next of Kin: James Duncan
Series Description: A9301: RAAF, NCOs and Other Ranks

Name: Jean Millicent Duncan
Gender: Female
Marriage Registration Year: 1947
Marriage Registration Place: Victoria, Australia
Spouse: Douglas Moresby Gair
Reference Number: 13813

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 9 Dec 2019 09:02

Connected

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1378115

Valerie

Valerie Report 9 Dec 2019 08:49

Hi Ellen

(WA) 'Names & Locations' site shows these possible deaths?

James Duncan d 7/1/1970 of Mt Lawley age 76yrs
Elizabeth Stewart Duncan d 8/5/1985 age 84yrs

You could 'Ask a Librarian' to check for their newspaper death notices.

Valerie

Ellen

Ellen Report 9 Dec 2019 08:47

Thank you Valerie I did not know about asking for help thru the Library, I have just sent a email to them.
Many thanks
Ellen

Valerie

Valerie Report 9 Dec 2019 05:47

Hi Ellen
The 'West Aus State Library' (on-line) has an 'Ask a Librarian' service.
They will check electoral rolls (past & present) and see when/where he went 'missing'. (also see about 'Elizabeth' too).
('GR' records show James Duncan dep UK on 'Strathnaver' to Fremantle 1933)

Valerie
Albany WAus

Ellen

Ellen Report 9 Dec 2019 00:43

I am back again on the Duncan trail.
I have a James Crocket Gibson Duncan born illegitimate to Mary Ann Duncan on the 13th June 1894 at Nursery Lane, River Street Brechin.(I have his birth certificate)
He was in the Black Watch (I have these details)
I found him aged 38 years with a Elizabeth ( wife ? can not find a marriage on Scotlands People) on board the "Strathnaver coming to Fremantle in Western Australia.
I also found them on the Western Australia 1943 Electrol Roll living at Middleton Beach Albany he was a casual worker,I have not be able to find any further information on them from there
I did find another James & Elizabeth with their deaths on Karrakatta Cemetery but this is not them.
Many thanks for any further information