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Annie/Anna Beattie.

Note spelling - not Bettie.

The marriage record has been posted twice on this thread, and also on your other threads.

Also the children's birth records have been posted more than once, showing their mother's surname as Beattie.

Read carefully all the info on all of your threads.

thanks all for this info still trying to confirm who david White actually married. Annie Bettie or Agnes Selby

Roy

Possibly Agnes Nicol White's death ?? You'd have to buy the cert to be sure.

[ If this is her death, then she didn't die in Kent, as you thought. And indeed there's no sign of her death in Kent in 1941.]

Agnes N White
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Death Index, 1916-2007
Name: Agnes N White
Death Age: 63
Birth Date: abt 1878
Registration Date: Jul 1941
[Aug 1941]
[Sep 1941]
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: Westmorland South
Inferred County: Westmorland
Volume: 10b
Page: 1390


and possibly in 1939??

Agnes N White
in the 1939 England and Wales Register
Name: Agnes N White
Gender: Female
Marital status: Single
Birth Date: 25 May 1877
Residence Year: 1939
Address: 3 Foxgrove Lane
Residence Place: Felixstowe, Suffolk, England
Occupation: Private Means
Schedule Number: 127
Sub Schedule Number: 1
Enumeration District: TWEB
Registration district: 214/1
Household Members:
Name
Agnes N White


Please note: the above already posted on one of your other threads. Have you read the other thread's replies carefully?

Her Probate is posted on one of them, with her address at death as KENTdale Nursing Home, KENT Terrace, Kendal, Westmorland

Not in Kent!

If this is Annie's birth, then yes, those are her parents.

BEATTIE
ANNA CATANACH
DAVID BEATTIE/MARGARET NICOL FR2849 (FR2849)
F
08/07/1849
312/
100 620
Montrose


This looks like her in 1871:

Anna C Beattie
in the 1871 Scotland Census
Name: Anna C Beattie
Age: 21
Estimated birth year: abt 1850
Relationship: Niece
Gender: Female
Where born: Montrose, Forfarshire
Registration Number: 312
Registration district: Montrose
Civil Parish: Montrose
County: Angus
Address: 16 High St
ED: 3
Household schedule number: 50
Line: 3
Roll: CSSCT1871_58
Household Members:
Name Age
James Selby 43
Agnes Selby 40
Anna C Beattie 21
Elizabeth Buick 17


Marriage of her uncle and aunt:

James Selby
in the Scotland, Select Marriages, 1561-1910
Name: James Selby
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 8 Nov 1854
Marriage Place: Dun,Angus,Scotland
Spouse: Agnes Nicol
FHL Film Number: 993420

So IF that's the correct Annie, that explains the Selby and Nicol names.

Have you done any research yourself? Or are you relying solely on what you’re told’?

Did you look at the site for which I posted the link? Any thoughts on the info?

The children's births, showing mother's maiden surname:

WHITE, JAMES SELBY mms BEATTIE
GRO Reference: 1873 J Quarter in ISLINGTON Volume 01B Page 373

WHITE, AGNES SELBY mms BEATTIE
GRO Reference: 1877 S Quarter in ISLINGTON Volume 01B Page 317


Agnes was baptised as Agnes Nicol White, although her birth is registered as Agnes Selby White;

. Agnes Nicol White
in the London, England, Non-conformist Registers, 1694-1931
Name: Agnes Nicol White
Event Type: Baptism
Baptism Date: 28 Jul 1877
Baptism Church: Crouch Hill Presbyterian Church
Baptism Place: Islington, Middlesex, England
Father: David White
Mother: Anna C Beattie

{All the above already posted on one of your other threads.)

Good day fellow researcher. You all have been most helpful but I am now in a state of total confusion. I was in the understanding that David White, born Forfarshire 13/6/1845 and died Islington 21/3/1916 married a Annie Catenach Bettie, born around 1849 and died December 1901 in Islington. They married 25/10/1871 in Montrose.
They had two offspring. James Selby White, born in the June quarter 1873 in Islington and died 9/5/1929 in Felixstowe. The other offspring was Agnes( Nicol added later) Selby White, born 25/5/1877 and died 30/6/1941 in Kent..

Now comes my confusion. I have heard from another source that david may have married a Agnes Selby, hense the Selby names in the offsrings names. In the 1881 census it states that David White as head, Annie White as wife Jamse S White as son and AgnesL White as daughter. They also had a visiter James Selbyas a visitor. Again the Selby name.

Can anyone help me sort out this problem. I have looked on Scotish People but can find no marriage for David White at all. By the way Davids parents were Thomas White and I believe Annie Bettie's parents were David Bettie and Margaret Nicol. This may explain the Nicol name added later into Agnes's name.

Sorry about the length of this posting but I hope someone can help me sort out this confusion.

Roy Horwell, New Zealand.

PM received!

Thanks for your info on David 1815, James 1817 and Jean 1824. I also have the following that have the same parents, am I correct?
Thomas 1820 ,
William 1827,
These following ones I have been told are David and Jeans children but I have my doudts due to dates ect.
Andrew 1807
David 1808,
David 1810,
Alexander 1813,
Agnes 1813,
Agnes 1824.

What do you think.

Roy, I tend not to speculate - rather I rely on research.

You say you've been 'told' about the above - have you checked any of the 'info' on any reliable website?


From familysearch - where you can easily find info yourself

Confirming the first two you name

Name:
David White
Gender:
Male
Christening Date:
28 May 1815
Christening Place:
MARYTON BY MONTROSE,ANGUS,SCOTLAND
Birth Date:
19 May 1815
Father's Name:
David White
Mother's Name:
Jean Allan


Name:
Thomas White
Gender:
Male
Christening Date:
30 Jan 1820
Christening Place:
CRAIG BY MONTROSE,ANGUS,SCOTLAND
Birth Date:
22 Jan 1820
Father's Name:
David White
Mother's Name:
Jean Allan

These are also on FS

Agnes White
Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
birth:
6 March 1813
, Cupar, Fife, Scotland
christening:
, CUPAR, FIFE, SCOTLAND
residence:
1813
Cupar, Fifeshire, Scotland
father:
David White
mother:
Jane Allan

Andrew White
Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
birth:
11 May 1808
christening:
15 May 1808
, CUPAR, FIFE, SCOTLAND
residence:
1808
Cupar, Fifeshire, Scotland
father:
David White
mother:
Jane Allen

Alexander White
Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
birth:
24 March 1807
christening:
29 March 1807
, CUPAR, FIFE, SCOTLAND
residence:
1807
Cupar, Fifeshire, Scotland
father:
David White
mother:
Jane Allen

David White
Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
birth:
10 November 1810
christening:
17 November 1810
, CUPAR, FIFE, SCOTLAND
residence:
1810
Cupar, Fifeshire, Scotland
father:
David White
mother:
Allen


MARRIAGE
Name:
David White
Spouse's Name:
Jane Allen
Event Date:
28 Sep 1806
Event Place:
Cupar,Fife,Scotland

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Never say never! :-D

No problem ErikaH. It's just a little unusual for marriages only to show the initial letter of the Christian name and not even a diminutive form of the name. Makes it more difficult when searching the indexes.

Regarding omissions on Scotlandspeople, from personal experience, I do that they exist.

As for no-ones perfect, I've spent 60 years looking for Mr. Perfect. I'll have to give up and n that one now lol :-)

Oops. So she did. I missed that bit. Still, no-one’s perfect ;-)

No omission on Scotlandspeople, Shirley has already posted the details of the marriage from SP indexes.

From familysearch

Name:
D. White
Spouse's Name:
Anna Beattie
Event Date:
25 Oct 1871
Event Place:
Montrose,Angus,Scotland

"Scotland Marriages, 1561-1910," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTKM-7P8 : 10 February 2018), D. White and Anna Beattie, 25 Oct 1871; citing Montrose,Angus,Scotland, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 6,035,516.

Batch number M11312-1

Other marriages from the Batch are on SP - perhaps the omission is SP's error

First name(s) Jean
Last name White
Gender Female
Birth year 1824
Birth place -
Baptism year 1824
Baptism date 21 Nov 1824
Baptism place CRAIG BY MONTROSE,ANGUS,SCOTLAND
Father's first name(s) David
Father's last name White
Mother's first name(s) Jean
Mother's last name Allan
Place Craig by Montrose


First name(s) David
Last name White
Gender Male
Birth year 1815
Birth place -
Baptism year 1815
Baptism date 28 May 1815
Baptism place MARYTON BY MONTROSE,ANGUS,SCOTLAND
Father's first name(s) David
Father's last name White
Mother's first name(s) Jean
Mother's last name Allan
Place Maryton by Montrose
County Forfarshire (Angus)


First name(s) James
Last name White
Gender Male
Birth year 1817
Birth place -
Baptism year 1817
Baptism date 14 Jul 1817
Baptism place MARYTON BY MONTROSE,ANGUS,SCOTLAND
Father's first name(s) David
Father's last name White
Mother's first name(s) Jean
Mother's last name Allan
Place Maryton by Montrose

First name(s) David
Last name White
Marriage year 1815
Marriage date 30 Nov 1815
Marriage place Aberlemno,Angus,Scotland
Spouse's first name(s) -
Spouse's last name Allan
Place Aberlemno
County Forfarshire (Angus)

Only ONE marriage record for David White to surname Allan on SP and FMP

Roy has jumped a generation.........!!!! He isn't referring to David's parents - they were his paternal grandparents

I expect this info is on another thread as well

First name(s) Thomas
Last name White
Gender Male
Birth year 1820
Birth place -
Baptism year 1820
Baptism date 30 Jan 1820
Baptism place CRAIG BY MONTROSE,ANGUS,SCOTLAND
Father's first name(s) David
Father's last name White
Mother's first name(s) Jean
Mother's last name Allan
Place Craig by Montrose

Both David's and Anna's baptisms are on one of the other threads, so I don't know why this request is needed

Census info is also there.........................

One post per topic, Roy.

Please do not start any more about this family

Would David be the son of David and Jean Allen born 1845 his mum would be too old surely if she was born c1786