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27 Nov 2019 06:54 |
greyghost Thanks so much for all this information.There's plenty to search through,I'll get back to it later in the week. Pat
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27 Nov 2019 00:44 |
1911 Census For England & Wales
34 Stockton Street Sheffield, Sheffield, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Oliver Gardiner Head Married Male 41 1870 Warehouseman Oxford Doddington Emma Gardiner Wife Married Female 37 1874 - Glos Turkdean Fred Gardiner Son - Male 13 1898 School Yorks Sheffield
Married 16 years, 1 child born and still living
that's it for tonight !!
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27 Nov 2019 00:42 |
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: GARDINER, OLIVER CALLOW GRO Reference: 1868 J Quarter in WOODSTOCK Volume 03A Page 654
GARDINER, JOHN VALENTINE CALLOW GRO Reference: 1867 M Quarter in WOODSTOCK Volume 03A Page 652
---------------------------- Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Dec 1866 (>99%) Callow Fanny Woodstock 3a 1131 GARDINER Valentine Woodstock 3a 1131
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27 Nov 2019 00:38 |
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Court House, 9, Brunswick Road, Brightside Bierlow, Sheffield, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place Oliver Gardiner Head Married Male 31 1870 Railway Dray Carter Deddington, Oxfordshire, England Emma Gardiner Wife Married Female 27 1874 - Hempton, Oxfordshire, England Fred Gardiner Son Single Male 3 1898 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Albert Cowley Boarder Single Male 23 1878 Railway Stableman Hempton, Oxfordshire, England
Birth GARDINER, FRED mmn COWLEY GRO Reference: 1898 M Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 575
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27 Nov 2019 00:27 |
The 1894 marriage of Sarah Ann Cowley and John Gardiner
FAther's Valentine Gardiner a Gardener and John Cowley a Labourer
witnesses - Arthur Bambridge and Jane Cowley
Yorkshire Marriages
First name(s) Sarah Ann Last name Cowley Age 24 Birth year 1870 Residence 132 Clough Road Marriage year 1894 Marriage date 25 Jul 1894 Marriage place Sheffield, St Mary, Bramall Lane Spouse's first name(s) John Spouse's last name Gardiner Spouse's age 27 Spouse's residence 24 Suffolk Lane Father's first name(s) John Father's last name Cowley Spouse's father's first name(s) Valentine Spouse's father's last name Gardiner County Yorkshire (West Riding) Country England Archive Sheffield Archives & Local Studies Archive reference PR-56-2-11 Page 223 Record set Yorkshire Marriages
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27 Nov 2019 00:24 |
Maybe explains ??
Richard Gardiner Cowley born before marriage of Mother Emma. Expect the Richard Cowley as Father on the baptism records was made up for respectability.
Emma Cowley - Father John, address same as that of Richard Gardiner Cowley on his baptism record.
Marries a Gardiner in 1896. His Father Valentine a Coachman and her Father John Cowley a Labourer
Witnesses John and Jane Cowley
Yorkshire Marriages
First name(s) Emma Last name Cowley Age 22 Birth year 1874 Residence 9 Margaret Street Marriage year 1896 Marriage date 23 Jul 1896 Marriage place Sheffield, St Mary, Bramall Lane Spouse's first name(s) Oliver Spouse's last name Gardiner Spouse's age 28 Spouse's residence 9 Margaret Street Father's first name(s) John Father's last name Cowley Spouse's father's first name(s) Valentine Spouse's father's last name Gardiner County Yorkshire (West Riding) Country England Archive Sheffield Archives & Local Studies Archive reference PR-56-2-12 Page 129
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27 Nov 2019 00:01 |
The 1911 - original shows John and Sarah married 16 years. 2 children born - 1 still living and one has died
1911 Census For England & Wales
48 Slate Street Sheffield, Sheffield, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Valentine Gardiner Head Married Male 44 1867 Electric Tram Conductor Oxon Deddington Sarah Ann Gardiner Wife Married Female 41 1870 - Gloster West Wood Nellie Gardiner Daughter Single Female 13 1898 School Yorks Sheffield John Cowley Brother In Law Widower Male 36 1875 Plate Layer Gloster Turksdean Richard Gardiner Cowley Nephew Single Male 15 1896 Grocers Apprentice Yorks Sheffield
_____________________ Do you have the other child's birth and death?
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: GARDINER, EDITH COWLEY GRO Reference: 1896 D Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 540
Name: Age at Death (in years): GARDINER, EDITH 0 GRO Reference: 1897 S Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 347
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26 Nov 2019 23:59 |
Thanks everyone .Emma and Sarah Ann in 1881.I wonder if Sarah and her husband adopted her sister's child. Pat
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26 Nov 2019 23:53 |
Hello greyghost thanks for your reply. I tried a combination of ways to try and find an answer,I wondered too if his father is a Richard Gardiner and his mum's surname is Cowley,but maybe no marriage took place. So his dad may be a brother of John Valentine Gardiner who adopted him.And he would be his nephew as stated in 1911.Or is Emma ,his mother,a relative of John Valentines wife Sarah Ann Cowley? I think I'll have to go back to the census and see if I can find them. Pat
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26 Nov 2019 23:53 |
In 1881 - Sarah Ann and brother John both born Winchcombe, Gloucestershire
Note there is a sister Emma
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census ?, Deddington, Woodstock, Oxfordshire, England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Cowley Head Married Male 40 1841 Agl Laborer Stow on the Wold, Gloucestershire, England Jane Cowley Wife Married Female 34 1847 Wife Of Laborer Easington, Oxfordshire, England Sarah Ann Cowley - Single Female 11 1870 Scholar Winchcombe, Gloucestershire, England Jane Cowley - Single Female 9 1872 Scholar Winchcombe, Gloucestershire, England Emma Cowley - Single Female 7 1874 Scholar Northleach, Gloucestershire, England John Cowley - Single Male 5 1876 Scholar Northleach, Gloucestershire, England George Cowley - Single Male 3 1878 Scholar Salford, Oxfordshire, England
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26 Nov 2019 23:51 |
The 1901 census you refer to -
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
22, Lancing Road, Sheffield, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John V Gardiner Head Married Male 33 1868 Tram Car Conductor Deddington, Oxfordshire, England Sarah A Gardiner Wife Married Female 30 1871 - Winchcombe, Gloucestershire, England Richard G Cowley Adopted Son Single Male 5 1896 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England Nellie Gardner Daughter Single Female 3 1898 - Sheffield, Yorkshire, England John Cowley Brother-In-Law Widower Male 25 1876 Wood Yard Labourer Gloucestershire, England
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26 Nov 2019 23:41 |
Sheffield Baptisms
First name(s) Richard Gardener Last name Cowley Birth year 1895 Birth date 06 Oct 1895 Baptism year 1895 Baptism date 03 Nov 1895 Father's first name(s) Richard Mother's first name(s) Emma Occupation Packer Residence 9 Margaret St Place Sheffield Church Sheffield, St Mary County Yorkshire Country England Record set Sheffield Baptisms
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26 Nov 2019 23:36 |
His birth registration shows no Mother's maiden name, so would suggest No Father is named on the Birth certificate.
A copy of the certificate would name the Mother
Name: Mother's Maiden Surname: COWLEY, RICHARD GARDINER - GRO Reference: 1895 D Quarter in SHEFFIELD Volume 09C Page 517
I was going to suggest that the Gardiner middle name might suggest the Father's surname, but looks as though John Gardiner and Sarah Ann married before the birth
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page Marriages Sep 1894 (>99%) COWLEY Sarah Ann Sheffield 9c 772 Gardiner John Sheffield 9c 772
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26 Nov 2019 23:26 |
Hello Can anyone help me to find any more info on this chap please? I have that his parents were Richard and Emma,and he was born about 1895 in Sheffield.He's listed as being adopted son with John Valentine Gardiner and his wife Sarah Ann Cowley in 1901 census,and as his nephew in 1911. John Valentine Gardiner's brother in law -John Cowley born in 1875,-lives with them for several years after his wife dies in 1899 when their daughter is born.I believe John Cowley could be a relative of ours,but would need to do more research. Thanks very much Pat
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