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Help Please with the Coopers

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Unknown

Unknown Report 21 Nov 2019 08:22

I have been doing my wife`s family tree and ive hit a wall, any help would be great but if not then ive done good, details are as follows,

I need the mother and father of William H Cooper DOB 1855 he was married to Annie Cooper DOB 1861 ( sorry dont have her maiden name )

They lived in Southampton, Hampshire,
I think his father was also William but not 100% certain DOB 1882 ?

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 Nov 2019 08:28

Have you looked for the marriage cert of William H and Annie .that would give his fathers name ,if known

Not seeing them on any census

Have you the names of any of the children.the gro would give mmn on the birth record

ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Nov 2019 08:30

Buy a copy of the marriage cert to find accurate info about both fathers’ names

Look for the record on freebmd
https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

To ascertain Annie’s maiden name, use the other FREE site - the GRO - to find births of children of the couple
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

Your dates don’t make sense. A man born c1855 can’t have had a father born c1882

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 Nov 2019 08:41

Only picking them up on the 1901 census

England, Wales & Scotland Census
Oak Bank, 7, Oak Bank Terrace, Itchen, St Mary Extra, South Stoneham, Hampshire,

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
William H Cooper Head Married Male 45 1856 Laborer (Yacht Yard) Hampshire, England
Annie E Cooper Wife Married Female 40 1861 - Southampton, Hampshire, England
William H Cooper Son Single Male 18 1883 Stable Lad Hampshire, England
May R Cooper Daughter Single Female 16 1885 Mother's Help Hampshire, England
Edward Cooper Son - Male 14 1887 - Hampshire, England
Edith Cooper Adopted - Female 9 1892 - Southampton, Hampshire, Englan

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 Nov 2019 08:48

Seeing as they lived south stoneham then maybe

COOPER, WILLIAM HENRY WEST
GRO Reference: 1882 J Quarter in SOUTH STONEHAM Volume 02C Page 49

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 Nov 2019 08:50

So here’s the marriage

Marriages Sep 1879
COOPER William Henry Southampton 2c 7
WEST Annie Eliza Southampton 2c 7

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 Nov 2019 08:54


View 1881 England Census

Name: William H. Cooper
Age: 25
Estimated birth year: abt 1856
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Annie E. Cooper
Gender: Male
Where born: S M Extra, Hampshire, England
Civil Parish: St Mary Extra
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Street address: Itchen
Marital status: Married
Education:
Employment status:
View image
Occupation: Seaman Yacht
Registration district: South Stoneham
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Neighbors: View others on page
Piece: 1217
Folio: 103
Page Number: 26
Household Members:
Name Age
William H. Cooper 25
Annie E. Cooper 21
Annie E. Cooper
(not transcribed)


Possible because of place of birth
1871 census
William Cooper
Age: 15
Estimated birth year: 1856
Relation: Son
Gender: Male
Where born: Itchen Hampshire England
Civil Parish: St Mary Extra
Ecclesiastical parish: Jesus Chapel St Mary Extra
Town: Itchen
County/Island: Hampshire
Country: England
Registration district: South Stoneham
Sub-registration district: St Mary Extra
ED, institution, or vessel: 7
Household schedule number: 56
Piece: 1196
Folio: 52
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
Robert Cooper 49
Mary Ann Cooper 47
Martha Cooper 18
William Cooper 15
Harriett Cooper 13
Eliza Cooper 11
Emma Cooper 8
Henry Cooper 1/12

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 Nov 2019 08:57

William Henry Cooper
Registration Year: 1855
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Registration district: South Stoneham
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Hampshire
Volume: 2c
Page: 33

COOPER, WILLIAM HENRY HOUGHTON
GRO Reference: 1855 S Quarter in SOUTH STONEHAM Volume 02C Page 33

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 Nov 2019 09:01

Sept qtr1847
COOPER Robert Southampton 7 287
HOUGHTON Mary Ann Southampton 7 287

You need the marriage cert to Annie to confirm though

Unknown

Unknown Report 21 Nov 2019 09:21

William Cooper born 1855, fathers name was also William, i think was born in 1832, I would love to find Williams 1855 Mothers maiden name.

Hope that makes sense

Sorry to many Williams

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 Nov 2019 09:31

So how do you know that the dad was a William

Is the census posted not the right family

Get the marriage cert to Annie 1879 for its info

ArgyllGran

ArgyllGran Report 21 Nov 2019 10:05

Possible alternative birth ??

COOPER, WILLIAM HENRY -
GRO Reference: 1855 D Quarter in SOUTHAMPTON Volume 02C Page 30



Having said that - there was a St Mary in the Southampton reg district, but St Mary Extra was definitely in South Stoneham reg district.



Maddie

Maddie Report 21 Nov 2019 11:09

1891
Oak Bank Terrace, St Mary Extra, South Stoneham, Hampshire, England
William H Cooper Head Married Male 36 1855 Fitters Labourer Hampshire, England --- st mary extra
Annie S Cooper Wife Married Female 31 1860 - Hampshire, England
William H Cooper Son Single Male 9 1882 Scholar Hampshire, England
Rosetta M Cooper Daughter Single Female 6 1885 Scholar Hampshire, England
Edwin J Cooper Son Single Male 4 1887 Scholar Hampshire, England
Annie E Cooper Daughter Single Female 10 1881 Scholar Hampshire, England

Maddie

Maddie Report 21 Nov 2019 11:22

william with mmn houghton

1861
Itchen, St Mary Extra, South Stoneham, Hampshire, England
Robert Cooper Head Married Male 39 1822 Mariner Itchen, Hampshire, England
Mary Ann Cooper Wife Married Female 36 1825 - Itchen, Hampshire, England
Thomas A Cooper Son - Male 11 1850 - Itchen, Hampshire, England
Robert Cooper Son - Male 9 1852 - Itchen, Hampshire, England
Martha Cooper Daughter - Female 8 1853 - Itchen, Hampshire, England
William H Cooper Son - Male 5 1856 - Itchen, Hampshire, England
Harriet Cooper Daughter - Female 3 1858 - Itchen, Hampshire, England
Eliza Cooper Daughter - Female 1 1860 - Itchen, Hampshire, England

1911
7 Elm Road Itchen, Itchen, Hampshire, England
William H Cooper Head Married Male 55 1856 Mariner Driver Steam Laund Itchen Southampton
Annie Cooper Wife Married Female 50 1861 - Southampton
Edward Cooper Son Single Male 23 1888 Mariner Seaman Itchen Southampton

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 21 Nov 2019 11:29

Already posted the 1871 census Maddie :-)

Maddie

Maddie Report 21 Nov 2019 11:42

sorry have deleted

probate of williams wife

of 37 threefold lane southampton widow died 25/04/1946 at 94 bernard streeet probate to william henry cooper shipwright labouer
effects £421 14s 4d

Name: Annie Eliza Cooper
Death Date: 25 Apr 1946
Death Place: Southampton, England
Probate Date: 16 Aug 1946
Probate Registry: Winchester, Chester, England

1939
26 Oakbank Road, Southampton C.B., Hampshire, England
Annie E Cooper 09 Oct 1860 Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Widowed 50 1

1939
58 Threefield Lane, Southampton C.B., Hampshire, England ----------------
William H Cooper 01 Apr 1882 Male Shipyard Labourer Married 100 1
Ellen Cooper 06 May 1887 Female Unpaid Dom Duties - 100 2




ErikaH

ErikaH Report 21 Nov 2019 17:03

You can’t possibly do all your research without buying certs to verify info

The marriage cert is essential for FACTUAL info about the father