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16 Nov 2019 21:39 |
Thanks everyone you have been a great help.
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Chris Ho :)
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16 Nov 2019 18:19 |
Any other information on her?, how did you 'connect' back to her?...
Chris :)
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ArgyllGran
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16 Nov 2019 17:18 |
Too many Fannys, Youngs, Taylors, etc.
I agree, you need Dorothy's birth cert.
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16 Nov 2019 17:18 |
Fanny Jane Taylor in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973 Name: Fanny Jane Taylor Gender: Female Age: 21 Birth Date: 1876 Marriage Date: 13 Mar 1897 Marriage Place: Northwood, Hampshire, England Father: Edward Taylor Spouse: Harry Trivett FHL Film Number: 1470883
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16 Nov 2019 17:16 |
Harry Trivett in the 1901 England Census Name: Harry Trivett Age: 2 Estimated birth year: abt 1899 Relation to Head: Son Gender: Male Father: Harry Trivett Mother: Fanny F Trivett Birth Place: Isle of Wight, Cowes Civil Parish: Cowes Ecclesiastical parish: St Mary County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Registration district: Isle of Wight Sub-registration district: Cowes ED, institution, or vessel: 1 Neighbors: Piece: 1017 Folio: 5 Page Number: 2 Household schedule number: 10 Household Members: Name Age Harry Trivett 34 Fanny F Trivett 27 Harry Trivett 2
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ArgyllGran
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16 Nov 2019 17:11 |
Re the Young/Trivett births posted by Chris:
Fanny Jane Young in the 1911 England Census Name: Fanny Jane Young Age in 1911: 34 Estimated birth year: abt 1877 Relation to Head: Wife Gender: Female Birth Place: Cowes, Isle of Wight, United Kingdom Civil Parish: Cowes County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street address: Solent Wharf House, Medina Rd, W Cowes Marital status: Married Years Married: 14 Estimated Marriage Year: 1897 Registration district: Isle of Wight Registration District Number: 93 Sub-registration district: Cowes ED, institution, or vessel: 14 Piece: 5692 Household Members: Name Age Ernest William Young 31 - Pimlico, London Fanny Jane Young 34 Harry Trevett 12 - Cowes
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ArgyllGran
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16 Nov 2019 17:05 |
The Fanny who married William Henry is, in any case, too old - unless the DOB given in 1939 is wrong.
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ErikaH
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16 Nov 2019 16:59 |
According to a tree on Ancestry (not always reliable) Lilian's father was named Frederick
Your friend needs the daughter's birth cert to confirm parent's names and father's occupation
A PDF version is cheaper than a hard copy
Order it at:-
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp
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ArgyllGran
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16 Nov 2019 16:57 |
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Fanny Eliza Taylor in the 1891 England Census Name: Fanny Eliza Taylor Gender: Female Age: 20 Relationship: Housemaid Birth Year: 1871 Birth Place: Fareham, Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Alverstoke Residence Place: Brockhurst and Elson, Alverstoke, Hampshire, England Sub registration district: Alverstoke ED, Institution or Vessel: Fort Brockhurst and Fort Elson with Married Quarters and St Thomas´s Terrace Neighbors: Piece: 881 Folio: 105 Household Members: Name Age Herbert Wynne Apperley 48 Constance Mary Apperley 36 William Herbert W Apperley 6 Mary Lyons Montgomery 58 Ann Sturmy 52 Fanny Eliza Taylor 20
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ErikaH
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16 Nov 2019 16:53 |
Name: Irwin David T Young Death Age: 73 Birth Date: 16 Dec 1910 Registration Date: Jan 1984 Registration district: Southampton Inferred County: Hampshire Volume: 20 Page: 1355
Name: Irwin Young Age in 1911: 3/12 Estimated birth year: abt 1911 Relation to Head: Grand Child Birth Place: Ashley Road, Ryde Civil Parish: Ryde County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street address: 1 Chichester Cottages, Ashley Road, Ryde, I Of Wight Registration district: Isle of Wight Registration District Number: 93 Sub-registration district: Ryde ED, institution, or vessel: 7 Household schedule number: 285 Piece: 5722 Household Members: Name Age Flora Taylor 52 Nelsie Taylor 28 Daisy Young 22 Irwin Young 3/12 David Young 31 Reuben Taylor 18 William G Taylor 11 Ronald Taylor 4 Reginald Taylor 4
May have no connection whatsoever. Young and Taylor are very common surnames
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ErikaH
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16 Nov 2019 16:51 |
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YOUNG, IRWIN DAVID TAYLOR TAYLOR GRO Reference: 1911 M Quarter in ISLE OF WIGHT Volume 02B Page 572
YOUNG, LILIAN CONSTANCE TAYLOR GRO Reference: 1903 D Quarter in ISLE OF WIGHT Volume 02B Page 607
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ArgyllGran
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16 Nov 2019 16:50 |
Probably not the 1896 marriage.
In 1911 William Henry is alone with their children, and Fanny's name is scored out, with the note "lunatic [7 ?] years"
William Henry Young in the 1911 England Census Name: William Henry Young Age in 1911: 42 Estimated birth year: abt 1869 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: Christchurch, Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Whitsbury County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Street address: Whitsbury Nr Breamore, Salisbury Marital status: Married Occupation: Farm Labourer Registration district: Fordingbridge Registration District Number: 97 Sub-registration district: Fordingbridge ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Household schedule number: 34 Piece: 5895 Household Members: Name Age William Henry Young 42 Charley Young 13 Doris Young 11 Maud Young 6 Alfred Young 3 Daisy Young 5/12 Alice Earney 44 - housekeeper
Fanny E Younge in the 1901 England Census Name: Fanny E Younge Age: 31 Estimated birth year: abt 1870 Relation to Head: Daughter-in-law Gender: Female Spouse: William Henry Younge Birth Place: Rockland, Hampshire, England Civil Parish: Rockbourne Ecclesiastical parish: St Andrew Town: Village County/Island: Hampshire Country: England Registration district: Fordingbridge Sub-registration district: Fordingbridge ED, institution, or vessel: 11 Neighbors: Piece: 1049 Folio: 55 Page Number: 16 Household schedule number: 110 Household Members: Name Age William Younge 75 Sarah Anne Younge 67 William Henry Younge 31 Charles William Younge 3 Fanny E Younge 31 Doris Alice 1
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16 Nov 2019 16:41 |
Below doesn't relate as well does she?...(as she came up on link!)
Births Dec 1913 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------ Young Mabel A Taylor I.Wight 2b 1023
1911 YOUNG Dorothy Beatrice May TAYLOR Cowes C52/E436 1913 YOUNG Mabel Alice TAYLOR, TRIVETT Cowes C54/E244
1897 TRIVETT Harry TAYLOR Fanny Jane St John, Northwood With Registrar COE32.4/435
1909 YOUNG Ernest William TRIVETT, TAYLOR Fanny Jane Register Office, Newport With Registrar RO57/32
(if him below)
Death 1936 YOUNG Ernest William 57 years 1878 - 1879 Newport N59/E172
1875 TAYLOR Fanny Jane PRIOR Cowes C23/E322
Birth TAYLOR, FANNY JANE PRIOR GRO Reference: 1875 D Quarter in ISLE OF WIGHT Volume 02B Page 521
Deaths Sep 1955 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------- YOUNG Fanny J 79 I.Wight 6b 602
1955 YOUNG Fanny Jane 79 years 1875 - 1876 North-West NW6/E105
1935 KINCHENTON George John YOUNG Dorothy Beatrice May St Mary, Cowes With Registrar COE16.4/179
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ErikaH
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16 Nov 2019 16:41 |
Can't - at present - see her in 1901 or 1911
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ErikaH
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16 Nov 2019 16:37 |
Confirming that of the possible pairings above, Philpott m. Lighting
Name: John Thomas Philpott Age in 1911: 54 Estimated birth year: abt 1857 Relation to Head: Head Gender: Male Birth Place: East Dean, Hampshire Civil Parish: Withyam County/Island: Sussex Country: England Street address: Buckhurst Gardens Withyham Marital status: Married Occupation: Gardener Registration district: East Grinstead Registration District Number: 75 Sub-registration district: Withyham ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Household schedule number: 13 Piece: 4975 Household Members: Name Age John Thomas Philpott 54 Ellen Philpott 44 Reginald Thomas Philpott 18 Edward Clement Philpott 13 Robert Ansell Philpott 11 Olive Bensley 83
No proof without the daughter's birth cert that the marriage is relevant
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ErikaH
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16 Nov 2019 16:34 |
In Jun 1893, she would have been 14
This is possibly more feasible, in view of the district
Marriages Sep 1896 (>99%) Lighting Ellen Christchurch 2b 1243 PHILPOTT John Thomas Christchurch 2b 1243 Taylor Fanny Eliza Christchurch 2b 1243 Young William Henry Christchurch 2b 1243
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ErikaH
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16 Nov 2019 16:32 |
Have you tried looking for a marriage on freebmd?
Start with the most obvious record - then progress from there
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ArgyllGran
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16 Nov 2019 16:31 |
So possibly Fanny's marriage?
Marriages Jun 1893 (>99%) Taylor Fanny Eliza Alverstoke 2b 1062 Young Frederick Alverstoke 2b 1062
Or this one ??
Fanny Eliza Taylor in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915 Name: Fanny Eliza Taylor Registration Year: 1896 Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep Registration district: Christchurch Inferred County: Hampshire Volume: 2b Page: 1243 Records on Page: Name Fanny Eliza Taylor William Henry Young
EDIT: No, not the 1896 marriage. In 1911 William Henry is alone with their children, and Fanny's name is scored out, with the note "lunatic [7 ?] years"
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ArgyllGran
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16 Nov 2019 16:28 |
Dorothy was Fanny's daughter:
Dorothy B M Young in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Birth Index, 1837-1915 Name: Dorothy B M Young Mother's Maiden Name: Taylor Registration Year: 1911 Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district: Isle of Wight Inferred County: Hampshire Volume: 2b Page: 1063
Dorothy B M Young in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005 Name: Dorothy B M Young Registration Date: Oct 1935 [Nov 1935] [Dec 1935] Registration Quarter: Oct-Nov-Dec Registration district: Isle of Wight Inferred County: Isle of Wight Spouse: George J Kinchenton Volume Number: 2b Page Number: 1708
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ArgyllGran
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16 Nov 2019 16:27 |
For our reference:
Fanny Young in the 1939 England and Wales Register Name: Fanny Young Gender: Female Marital status: Widowed Birth Date: 15 Sep 1878 Residence Year: 1939 Address: 40. St Andrews Street Residence Place: Cowes, Isle of Wight, England Occupation: Unpaid Domestic Duties Schedule Number: 252 Sub Schedule Number: 1 Enumeration District: EPAK Registration district: 93-1 Household Members: Name Dorothy B M [ later changed to Beatrice M D] Kinchenton - 9 Sept 1911 Fanny Young
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