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Another Lost Family + more info and Certs.

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Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 9 Nov 2019 07:06

Why would her ex husband take in her son ?

Click ADD REPLY button - not this link!

Click ADD REPLY button - not this link! Report 8 Nov 2019 23:40

Did Thomas die right after Ada was born?

Deaths Sep 1895 (>99%)
Swailes Thomas 28 Wakefield 9c 18

Rose

Catherine

Catherine Report 8 Nov 2019 21:57

What is Ada's exact date of birth?

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 8 Nov 2019 21:17

Below looks to relate here...

Chris :)

https://www.genesreunited.com.au/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1356659?d=asc

(notes on above Albert has Surname Smith 1911, with Charles Mapplebeck)

Rambling

Rambling Report 8 Nov 2019 20:08

Just a random chance NO not this one!

Marriages Dec 1899 (>99%)

Hodgson Pearson Dewsbury 9b 1111
Smith Mary Elizabeth Dewsbury 9b 1111

EDIT Sorry! Just misread that and went off on a wildgoose chase!

Chris Ho :)

Chris Ho :) Report 8 Nov 2019 20:02

A Lodger below, Barnsley (if him)...

Any Addresses from Birth Certs.?...

Chis :)

1891
George Cutts Head Married Male 39 1852 Coal Miner Yorkshire, England
Sarah H Cutts Wife Married Female 38 1853 - Yorkshire, England
Ruth Cutts Daughter Single Female 16 1875 - Yorkshire, England
Alberta Cutts Daughter Single Female 9 1882 Scholar Hoyland, Yorkshire, England
Fred Cutts Son Single Male 7 1884 Scholar Yorkshire, England
Annie M Cutts Daughter Single Female 2 1889 - Yorkshire, England
Thomas Swailes Lodger Single Male 21 1870 Coal Miner Yorkshire, England
George Mamah Lodger Single Male 22 1869 Coal Miner Yorkshire, England
Milton Road, Nether Hoyland, Barnsley, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding),


Swailes A E — — 1914-18 National Roll Of The Great War 1914-1918 England
(Private K.O. (Y.L.I.) Joined in August 1917. Was wounded in September 1918 near Cambrai. Returned home, demobilised in 1919.
11, Tanhouse Hill, Horsforth Leeds)

(also not Naval Death, 1944 (HMS Lapwing) that was Albert Ernest Swailes, 25)

You can view Military Records on FMP free this Weekend.

Edits (no idea if above is your Albert, but below also lived in Tanhouse Hill, Horsforth. According to Newpaper article, he was found drowned in Horsforth Dam)

(No, Albert and William above, 1911 with Parents, Ned and Selina) (1899 Birth for another Albert Edward Swailes)

Moira

Moira Report 8 Nov 2019 20:00

That is Lillie, she was left by her mother at an early age, brought up by Aunt's and kept in touch with her Father, she later marries a Thomas Albert Baker, but the marriage breaks down quickly, she moves in with Charles Mapplebeck as his wife and has 14 children with him, Her father and Stepbrother Albert move in with the Mapplebeck family also, It is the Mother who on Albert's birth cert is down as Mary Swailes late Smith formerly Vickers that I can find nothing of her except that she has this other child Ada Jane born 1895 Wakefield, they seem to have vanished. sorry it is so long and drawn out

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it

Shirley~I,m getting the hang of it Report 8 Nov 2019 19:48

Its l difficult to follow. I,m afraid

This looks like Lillie birth Slightly different spelling

SMITH, LILLIE VICKERS
GRO Reference: 1888 M Quarter in BARNSLEY UNION Volume 09C Page 226

Moira

Moira Report 8 Nov 2019 19:10

The family name is Swailes, Thomas a coal miner no other information on him (sorry) Just that he fathered 2 children with Mary I have birth certs.
Mother Mary Elizabeth Vickers,b. 1869 Hoyland Barnsley she married Richard William Smith in 1885 Barnsley, She had a daughter Lily. Mary left Richard and Lily and moved in with Thomas Swailes she has a son Albert Edward Swailes 1893 Wakefield, he went to live with her ex husband Richard and his step sister Lily, Mary then had a daughter Ada Jane Swailes b. 1895 Wakefield, I can find nothing of the family after Ada's birth, I have Ada's birth cert.
Sorry but this is all the info I have on the family.

I have now got the Birth Cert. for Ada Jane Swailes born 19/05/1895 at 65 St Johns Terrace Normanton Wakefield
Thomas Swailes died 13/09/1895 at 65 St Johns Terrace Normanton Wakefield aged 28 years of Typhoid Fever.
Mary Swailes was present at the death and is down as widow but they were not married.
So Elizabeth would have been left with a 4 month old baby an a son of 2 years and 3 months.
we know the son went to her ex husband so where did the baby and Elizabeth go ???