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Make a note, and use for births with MMN prior to 1911

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/Login.asp

An invaluable 'tool'

Thanks greyghost
Yes the sisters did marry the Orton brothers and thanks for finding Mary Jane for me..I just could not find her
Thank you everyone X

(would say that about 'sorts' that then gg, lol)

Chris :)

https://durhamrecordsonline.com/NewSearch.php

(was looking round on above, but not seeing a lot!)


(worth keeping a watch on below!)

https://www.gravestonephotos.com/public/area.php?area=Durham&country=En

Coundon Municipal pending December 2019


Edits

15 November 1895 - Durham County Advertiser - Durham, Durham, England

Death
At New Coundon on the 11th inst., Mary Jane, daughter of Joseph Vickers, aged 2 years.

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Sep 1910 (>99%)
Orton John W Auckland 10a 416 <<<<<<
SHOULDER Thomas Auckland 10a 416
Vickers Olive Auckland 10a 416 <<<<<<
Wallis Ethel Auckland 10a 416

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And her 1911 census

Did the sisters Olive and Hannah marry brothers?


1911 Census For England & Wales
54 a Close House, Coundon Grange, Durham, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John William Orton Head Married Male 27 1884 Scavenger Local Durham Leasingthorne
Olive Orton Wife Married Female 21 1890 - Durham Coundon

The earlier thread:

https://www.genesreunited.co.uk/boards/board/ancestors/thread/1358406

A 1939 Register entry is on there, otherwise nothing that's not been found again for this thread.

And the deaths

Name: Age at Death (in years):
VICKERS, MARY JANE 1
GRO Reference: 1895 D Quarter in AUCKLAND Volume 10A Page 120

Name: Age at Death (in years):
VICKERS, THOMAS ABBOTT 2
GRO Reference: 1902 J Quarter in AUCKLAND Volume 10A Page 131

The marriage

Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Marriages Dec 1890 (>99%)
ABBOT Mary Auckland 10a 256
Vickers Joseph Auckland 10a 256

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8 children - spelling variants for Abbot/t

Name: Mother's Maiden Surname:
VICKERS, OLIVE ABBOTT
GRO Reference: 1891 M Quarter in AUCKLAND Volume 10A Page 209

VICKERS, HANNAH ABBOTT
GRO Reference: 1892 J Quarter in AUCKLAND Volume 10A Page 212

VICKERS, MARY JANE ABBOT
GRO Reference: 1894 M Quarter in AUCKLAND Volume 10A Page 187

VICKERS, JANE ANN ABBOTT
GRO Reference: 1897 D Quarter in AUCKLAND Volume 10A Page 202

VICKERS, THOMAS ABBOTT ABBOTT
GRO Reference: 1900 J Quarter in AUCKLAND Volume 10A Page 214

VICKERS, ELIZABETH ABBOTT
GRO Reference: 1903 S Quarter in AUCKLAND Volume 10A Page 215

VICKERS, JOSEPH ABBOT
GRO Reference: 1906 M Quarter in AUCKLAND Volume 10A Page 248

VICKERS, EVELYN ABBOT
GRO Reference: 1909 M Quarter in AUCKLAND Volume 10A Page 230

Have you tried Searching using Surname options on below (also Mother Maiden Name)

https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/login.asp

Chris :)

(if not might be a 'lengthy' elimination process from Births on below, District Auckland (that's if that District goes with all Census they are on!)

https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

I'll move this or delete when previous thread has been found.

Doesn't bear much resemblance to the 1911 info you've posted which to me indicates the family are together.

Whose deaths have you found?

1911 Census For England & Wales
14 Belle Vue Terrace Coundon Near Bp Auckland, Coundon, Durham, England

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
Joseph Vicker Head Married Male 45 1866 Miner Coal Hewer Coundon Durham
Mary Vickers Wife Married Female 45 1866 - Ramshaw Durham
Hannah Orton Daughter Wife Married Female 19 1892 - Durham
Jane Ann Vickers Daughter Single Female 13 1898 School Coundon Durham
Elizabeth Vickers Daughter Single Female 7 1904 School Coundon Durham
Joseph Vickers Son Single Male 5 1906 School Coundon Durham
Evelyn Vickers Daughter - Female 2 1909 - Coundon Durham
Robert Orton Son In Law Married Male 27 1884 Water Leader Underground Stafffs House Durham

Said to have been married 20 years with 8 children born 2 have died

Olive appears to have been mistakenly written in and the crossed out - is this because she has died or that she is living elsewhere.

So 5 children listed above.

Have found 2 previous threads, but apart from the 1911 having been posted on both, there doesn't appear to be further relevant info on either.

So please find your previous thread and add to it. Starting a new one is unfair on the people who help

yes Erikah
I am fully aware that I haved asked over this info before,Hence I have never been able to find the missing children for the above couple

FMP shows that I have accessed this census record before, which suggests that you have asked previously. The names seemed familiar as soon as I read your post

Good evening all :-)
I am after a little help with one of the children of Mary Vickers (nee Abbot) and Joseph vickers.They are living in Coundon on the 1891,1901,and 1911 censuses.
On the 1911 Census Joseph states that he and mary had 8 Children and that two have died, but I have only ever been able to find seven
Any help most welcome
1911 census info: Joseph Vickers 1866.Mary Vickers 1866..Olive Vickers.1891.Hannah Vickers 1892.Jane A Vickers 1898.Elizabeth Vickers 1904.Joseph Vickers 1906.Evelyn Vickers 1909.Thomas Abbot Vickers 1900