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Richard Clay
England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Richard Clay
Gender: Male
Christening Date: 29 May 1785
Christening Date (Original): 29 MAY 1785
Christening Place: CLIVE,SHROPSHIRE,ENGLAND
Father's Name: Rich. Clay
Mother's Name: Hannah



I think now that William's parents are more likely to be Richard and Susannah than Richard and Hannah.

This first baptism posted by Rose has their abode as Clive Hill and Richard was a flax dresser.

First name(s) William
Last name Clay
Birth year -
Baptism year 1819
Baptism date 03 Jan 1819
Denomination Anglican
Place Clive
Father's first name(s) Richard
Mother's first name(s) Susannah

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Susannah and Hannah could be the same person.

Or a mistranscription.

Richard and Ann's eldest daughter in 1851 census is called Hannah.

image on FMP gives an Ann Clay as witness so possibly mother or sister?

1901 for william

Name: William Clay
Age: 83
Estimated birth year: abt 1818
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Ann Clay
Birth Place: Clive, Westmeath, Shropshire, England
Civil Parish: Prees
Search Photos: Search for 'Prees' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Ecclesiastical parish: St Chad
Town: Prees
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Education:

Employment status:

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Registration district: Wem
Sub-registration district: Prees
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors:
Piece: 2554
Folio: 40
Page Number: 1
Household schedule number: 6

Name: William Clay
Estimated birth year: abt 1819
Registration Year: 1901
Registration Quarter: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 82
Registration district: Wem
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Shropshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 409

Name: Ann Clay
Estimated birth year: abt 1826
Registration Year: 1907
Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun
Age at Death: 81
Registration district: Wem
Parishes for this Registration District: View Ecclesiastical Parishes associated with this Registration District
Inferred County: Shropshire
Volume: 6a
Page: 441

if richard and hannah

Name: Thos. Clay
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 27 Oct 1782
Baptism Place: Middle, Shropshire, England
Father: Richard Clay
Mother: Hannah Clay
FHL Film Number: 501459
Reference ID: Item 9

Name: John Clay
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 15 Apr 1787
Baptism Place: Clive,Shropshire,England
Father: Rich. Clay
Mother: Hannah
FHL Film Number: 897302

BUT:

Maybe he was born at a different St Mary. (No - see end of this post )

1871 says he was born in Clive:

William Clay
in the 1871 England Census
Name: William Clay
Age: 51
Estimated birth year: 1820
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Clive Shropshire England <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Civil Parish: Prees
Town: Wem
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Registration district: Wem
Sub-registration district: Prees
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Household schedule number: 30
Piece: 2795
Folio: 51
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
William Clay 51
Ann Clay 45
Eliza Clay 13
Henry Clay 9
Charlotte Clay 7
Ada Clay 4
Richard Clay 1


1881 also says Clive.

1891 says Higher Heath Prees, which is roughly 3 or 4 miles north of Clive, and just south of Whitchurch.

https://getoutside.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/local/prees-higher-heath-shropshire



ADDED:

Looks like St Mary parish stretched for quite an area:

"CLIVE, a chapelry in St. Mary parish, Salop"

"Clive Gregory Shropshire Gazetteer 1824
Clive. A chapelry in the parish of St. Mary, Shrewsbury, and in the liberties of Shrewsbury. 54 houses, 306 inhabitants. 3 miles south of Wem."


https://parishmouse.co.uk/137305/clive-shropshire-family-history-guide/

Possibility for parents' marriage ??? (In which case, the baptism Rose posted wouldn't be the right one - different mother)

Richard Clay
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: Richard Clay
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 4 Jun 1782
Marriage Place: St. Mary'S, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
Spouse: Hannah Garmstone
FHL Film Number: 1701332
Reference ID: item 5



And if so, possibly Richard's baptism ??

Richard Clay
in the England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Name: Richard Clay
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 30 Dec 1759
Baptism Place: Shawbury,Shropshire,England
Father: Thomas Clay
FHL Film Number: 918792

Shawbury is 8.4 miles NE of Shrewsbury (per Google), and roughly 3 miles east of Clive.

St Mary (where William was born) is part of Shrewsbury.

Clive, where the baptism posted by Rose took place, is about 7 or 8 miles north of Shrewsbury.

Doesn't rule it out, necessarily.

[ EDIT: But St Mary is the whole parish name. There were lots of villages within that. See end of post at 11:39. ]

marriage to confirm fathers name

William
Last name Clay
Marriage year 1846
Marriage date 28 Dec 1846
Marriage place Whitchurch
Denomination Anglican
Residence Whitchurch
Age Full
Father's first name(s) Richard
Father's last name Clay
Spouse's first name(s) Ann
Spouse's last name Austin
Spouse's residence Whitchurch
Spouse's age Full
Spouse's father's first name(s) Joseph
Spouse's father's last name Austin
County Shropshire
Register date range 1837-1852
Archive reference P303/A/3/6
Page 175
Register type Marriage

Welcome to the boards, Angela.

For our reference and exact location of marriage:

William Clay
in the England, Select Marriages, 1538–1973
Name: William Clay
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 28 Dec 1846
Marriage Place: Whitchurch, Shropshire, , England
Father: Richard Clay
Spouse: Ann Austin
FHL Film Number: 1702220
Reference ID: 173

and William's birthplace, [ EDIT: St Mary is the parish, not a specific village. See end of later post at 11:39]


William Clay
in the 1861 England Census
Name: William Clay
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: 1819
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ann Clay
Gender: Male
Where born: St Mary, Shropshire, England <<<<<<<<<
Civil Parish: Prees
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Registration district: Wem
Sub-registration district: Prees
ED, institution, or vessel: 5
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 20
Piece: 1888
Folio: 50
Page Number: 5
Household Members:
Name Age
William Clay 42
Ann Clay 35 - Whitchurch
Anna Clay 13
William Clay 9
Mary Clay 7
Eliza Clay 4
Richard Clay 2


William Clay
in the 1851 England Census
Name: William Clay
Age: 51
Estimated birth year: abt 1800
Relation: Head
Spouse's name: Ann Clay
Gender: Male
Where born: St Mary, Shropshire, England <<<<<<<<<<
Civil Parish: Prees
Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Maps:
View related Ecclesiastical Parish
County/Island: Shropshire
Country: England
Registration district: Wem
Sub-registration district: Wem
ED, institution, or vessel: 2d
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 6
Piece: 1995
Folio: 341
Page Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Age
William Clay 51 [ age should be 31, though hard to read image ]
Ann Clay 26
Hannah Clay 3
Mary Clay 1
Richard Austin 21 - brother-in-law

That's Ancestry's transcription of 1851 above. FS version estimates his YOB as 1820.

Possible?

William
Clay
Gender Male
Birth year -
Birth place -
Baptism year 1819
Baptism date 03 Jan 1819
Place Clive
County Shropshire
Country England
Father's first name(s) Richard
Father's last name Clay
Mother's first name(s) Susannah
Mother's last name -
Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
Subcategory Parish Baptisms
Collections from England, Great Britain

Looking for ancestors or any info.on William Clay born 1819 Shropshire who married Ann Austin 1846. His fathers name is Richard Clay d.o.b not known.