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Julia
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17 Oct 2019 21:33 |
I am keen to find out more about my 3 x great grandfather Thomas Dacks Harvey born in Colchester in 1824. He married Maria McNish in 1849 and they went on to have 8 children. I am particularly keen to find out about his parents and grandparents but seem to have reached a dead end. I would be grateful for any information that is out there. Many thanks in advance.
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Catherine
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17 Oct 2019 21:47 |
A possible:-
Name: Thomas Harvey Gender: Male Christening Date: 26 Dec 1824 Christening Date (Original): 26 DEC 1824 Christening Place: CONGREGATIONAL OR INDEPENDENT,WETHERSFIELD,ESSEX,ENGLAND Birth Date: 06 Nov 1824 Father's Name:Joseph Harvey Mother's Name: Elizth.
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Catherine
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17 Oct 2019 21:47 |
Any idea if he had siblings?
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Catherine
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17 Oct 2019 21:51 |
NO this one looks more likely
Name: Thomas Dack Harvey Baptism Date: 26 Apr 1824 Baptism Place: Colchester, St Peter, Essex, England Search Photos: Search for 'Colchester, St Peter' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map: View this parish Father: John Harvey Mother: Susan Harvey
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Catherine
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17 Oct 2019 21:52 |
Yes, father definately John
Name: Thomas Dack Harvey Gender: Male Marriage Age: Full Age Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 22 Jul 1849 Marriage Place: Colchester, St Peter, Essex, England Search Photos: Search for 'Colchester, St Peter' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection
Father: John Harvey
Spouse: Maria McNish
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Catherine
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17 Oct 2019 21:59 |
If this is John Harvey, then he was a gardener:-
Name: John Harvey Poll Year: 1820 Parish or Rectory: Colchester
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Catherine
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17 Oct 2019 22:09 |
I wonder??
Name: Jonathan Harvey Gender: Male Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 27 Jul 1821 Marriage Place: Great Bentley, St Mary The Virgin, Essex, England Search Photos: Search for 'Great Bentley, St Mary The Virgin' in the UK City, Town and Village Photos collection Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map: View this parish Spouse: Susan Clark
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ArgyllGran
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17 Oct 2019 22:30 |
Or this one ?
John Harvey in the Essex, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812 Name: John Harvey Event Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 2 Apr 1809 Marriage Place: Colchester, St Peter, Essex, England Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map: View this parish Spouse: Susannah Cousins
John Harvey in the Essex, England, Church of England Marriages, 1754-1935 Name: John Harvey Gender: Male Record Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 2 Apr 1809 Marriage Place: Colchester, St Peter, Essex, England Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map: View this parish Spouse: Susan Cousins
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ArgyllGran
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17 Oct 2019 22:35 |
??? Sibling baptised the same day - possibly a twin, given YOB in 1841 census below?:
Daniel Harvey in the Essex, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1918 Name: Daniel Harvey Baptism Date: 26 Apr 1824 Baptism Place: Colchester, St Peter, Essex, England View this parish Father: John Harvey Mother: Susan Harvey
Therefore this is Thomas in 1841. Daniel (17, labourer) is listed with him, though not transcribed with him on Ancestry.
Thos Harvey in the 1841 England Census Name: Thos Harvey Age: 17 Estimated birth year: abt 1824 Gender: Male Where born: Essex, England Civil Parish: St Peter Hundred: Colchester Borough County/Island: Essex Country: England Registration district: Colchester Sub-registration district: Second Ward Neighbors: Piece: 344 Book: 15 Folio: 15 Page Number: 24 Household Members: Name Age Thos Harvey 17
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ArgyllGran
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17 Oct 2019 22:45 |
Possible other siblings:
Henry Harvey in the Essex, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1918 Name: Henry Harvey Baptism Date: 11 Jun 1819 Baptism Place: Colchester, St Peter, Essex, England Father: John Harvey Mother: Susan Harvey
Elizabeth Harvey in the Essex, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1918 Name: Elizabeth Harvey Age: 6 Birth Date: abt 1818 Baptism Date: 26 Apr 1824 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Baptism Place: Colchester, St Peter, Essex, England Father: John Harvey Mother: Susan Harvey
George Harvey in the Essex, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1918 Name: George Harvey Baptism Date: 6 Apr 1828 Baptism Place: Colchester, St Peter, Essex, England Father: John Harvey Mother: Susan Harvey
Sarah Harvey in the Essex, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1918 Name: Sarah Harvey Baptism Date: 22 Aug 1827 Baptism Place: Colchester, St Peter, Essex, England Father: John Harvey Mother: Susan Harvey
Emma Harvey in the Essex, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1918 Name: Emma Harvey Baptism Date: 14 Mar 1821 Baptism Place: Colchester, St Peter, Essex, England Father: John Harvey Mother: Susan Harvey
Susannah Harvey in the Essex, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1918 Name: Susannah Harvey Gender: Female Baptism Date: 27 Jan 1813 Baptism Place: Colchester, St Peter, Essex, England Father: John Harvey Mother: Susannah Harvey
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ArgyllGran
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17 Oct 2019 22:49 |
Also maybe these:
Daniel Harvey in the Essex, England, Church of England Births and Baptisms, 1813-1918 Name: Daniel Harvey Gender: Male Baptism Date: 25 Jan 1814 Baptism Place: Colchester, St Peter, Essex, England Father: John Harvey Mother: Susannah Harvey
John Harvey in the Essex, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812 Name: John Harvey Gender: Male Event Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 18 Feb 1810 Baptism Place: Colchester, St Peter, Essex, England Father: John Harvey Mother: Susannah Harvey
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ArgyllGran
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17 Oct 2019 23:06 |
As well as the gardener suggested earlier by Catherine, there's also this John:
John Harvey in the 1851 England Census Name: John Harvey Age: 60 Estimated birth year: abt 1791 Relation: Visitor Gender: Male Where born: Colchester, Essex, England Civil Parish: Colchester St Martin County/Island: Essex Country: England Registration district: Colchester Sub-registration district: Colchester First Ward ED, institution, or vessel: 4b Neighbors: Household schedule number: 109 Piece: 1781 Folio: 480 Page Number: 23 Household Members: Name Age Rebecca Leveritt 51 - Ipswich, glover, unmarried Rebecca Leveritt 33 - daughter, unmarried, tailoress, Colchester Emma Leveritt 19 - ditto John Harvey 60 - widower, cabinet maker
He's also with Rebecca (glove maker) and her children (though the YOB's are wildly different - Jane 15, Rebecca 10, Emma 5) in 1841, although they're not transcribed with him on Ancestry:
John Harvey in the 1841 England Census Name: John Harvey Age: 50 Estimated birth year: abt 1791 Gender: Male Where born: Essex, England Civil Parish: St Martin Hundred: Colchester Borough County/Island: Essex Country: England Registration district: Colchester Sub-registration district: Second Ward Neighbors: Piece: 344 Book: 10 Folio: 27 Page Number: 18 Household Members: Name Age John Harvey 50 - cabinet maker
If that's him, and if the 1809 marriage (to Susan/Susannah Cousins) is his, he would have been 18 at marriage.
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Chris Ho :)
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18 Oct 2019 07:20 |
Below from google search...
https://historyhouse.co.uk/placeC/essexc14freemen2.html
Chris :)
What are all details from 1848 Marriage Cert.?...(Father Occupation., Witnesses?)
Edits (below)
Essex Marriages And Banns 1537-1935 (Find My Past)
Last name Harvey Residence Custem Yard Marriage year 1849 Marriage date 22 Jul 1849 Place Colchester, St Peter County Essex Spouse's first name(s) Maria Mi Spouse's last name Nish Spouse's marital status S Spouse's residence Balkerne Lane Father's first name(s) John Father's last name Harvey Father's occupation Cabinet Maker Spouse's father's first name(s) John Mi Spouse's father's last name Nick Event type Marriages Archive Essex Record Office Archive reference D/P 178/1/17 Page number 76
(For 1824 Baptism, below given)
Father's occupation Carpenter Residence North Street
Essex Burial Index 1530-1994
First name(s) Susan Last name Harvey Age 42 Birth year 1789 Residence North Street Burial year 1831 Burial date 10 Jan 1831 Place Colchester, St Peter County Essex
County Essex Place Colchester Church name St Leonard Register type Parish Register Register entry number 52 Marriage date 19 Dec 1816 Groom forename John Groom surname MACKNISH Groom parish This parish Groom condition bachelor Bride forename Maria Bride surname WESTWOOD Bride parish This parish Bride condition spinster Witness1 Martha TURTLE Witness2 *** BROWN
(perhaps Parents of Maria)
https://www.freereg.org.uk/
(below came up for Rebecca Leveritt, 1841 and 51, Stockwell Lane)
County Essex Place Colchester Church name St Martin Register type Parish Register Register entry number 539 Birth date * Dec 1820 Baptism date 06 Aug 1837 Person forename Jane Person sex F Mother surname LEVRETT Notes No parents given. Seax DP 325-1-6
Place Colchester Church name St Peter Register type Parish Register Birth date Nov 1789 Baptism date 26 May 1790 Person forename Susan Person sex F Father forename Henry Mother forename Ann Father surname COUSINS
(if her)
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ArgyllGran
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18 Oct 2019 11:07 |
So John the carpenter (father of the baptised children) could be John the cabinet maker in 1841 and 1851.
EDIT: Oh yes, Chris has shown that, per Thomas Dack's marriage record.
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ArgyllGran
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18 Oct 2019 11:20 |
Likely death of Rebecca senior:
LEVERITT, REBECCA 61 GRO Reference: 1857 M Quarter in COLCHESTER Volume 04A Page 149
She's not necessarily any relation - maybe just John's landlady.
Possible death of Susan/Susannah ??
Susan Harvey in the Essex, England, Church of England Deaths and Burials, 1813-1994 Name: Susan Harvey Age: 42 Birth Date: abt 1789 Death Date: abt 1831 Burial Date: 10 Jan 1831 Burial Place: Colchester, St Peter, Essex, England
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ArgyllGran
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18 Oct 2019 11:23 |
???
Susan Cousins in the Essex, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812 Name: Susan Cousins Gender: Female Baptism Age: 0 Event Type: Baptism Birth Date: Nov 1789 Baptism Date: 26 May 1790 Baptism Place: Colchester, St Peter, Essex, England Father: Henry Cousins Mother: Ann Cousins
And a brother:
Henry Cousins in the Essex, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812 Name: Henry Cousins Gender: Male Event Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 22 Apr 1793 Baptism Place: Colchester, St Peter, Essex, England Father: Henry Cousins Mother: Ann Cousins
Possible marriage of their parents??
Henry Cousins in the Essex, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812 Name: Henry Cousins Event Type: Marriage Marriage Date: 25 Oct 1785 Marriage Place: Colchester, St Peter, Essex, England Spouse: Ann Chappman
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ArgyllGran
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18 Oct 2019 11:37 |
Other possible siblings??
Ann Maria Cousins in the Essex, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812 Name: Ann Maria Cousins Gender: Female Event Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 6 May 1787 Baptism Place: Colchester, St Peter, Essex, England Father: Henry Cousins Mother: Ann Cousins
Ann Cousins in the Essex, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812 Name: Ann Cousins Gender: Female Event Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 16 Sep 1791 Baptism Place: Colchester, St Peter, Essex, England Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map: View this parish Father: Henry Cousins Mother: Ann Cousins
Ann Cousins in the Essex, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812 Name: Ann Cousins Gender: Female Event Type: Baptism Baptism Date: 24 Oct 1792 Baptism Place: Colchester, St Peter, Essex, England Phillimore Ecclesiastical Parish Map: View this parish Father: Henry Cousins Mother: Ann Cousins
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