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6 Oct 2019 08:03 |
Look at that Address on 1891 Census posted (James Haworth) it's the one William gave on his Marriage 1887...(James is the Son of William, who Harry Card is with 1881)
(as said, the family could have 'taken' him in, perhaps it was them that told him of Father Albert, and the circumstances, seeing how he knew of Annie Ridgway, for his son James to know about her, that's if Annie was the Mother, mystery!)
(as also said before, would get that Will of Albert Card 1873, see what it says, maybe he wasn't aware of a Son!)
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Baptism: 25 Dec 1887 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England James Card - [Child] of William Henry Card & Jane Born: 22 Oct Abode: 5 Herbert St. Occupation: Loomer Baptised by: H. F. Lloyd Curate Register: Baptisms 1886 - 1889, Page 195, Entry 1553 Source: LDS Film 1885687
Baptism: 3 Dec 1888 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England Ambrosine Card - [Child] of William Henry Card & Jane Born: 13 Nov Abode: Herbert St. Miry Lane Occupation: Miller Baptised by: H. F. Lloyd Curate Register: Baptisms 1886 - 1889, Page 350, Entry 2797 Source: LDS Film 1885687
Baptism: 29 Sep 1893 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England Benjamin Card - [Child] of William Henry Card & Jane Born: 8 Sep Abode: Pemberton Occupation: Miller Baptised by: H.F. Lloyd Curate Register: Baptisms 1892 - 1893, Page 251, Entry 2007 Source: LDS Film 1885688
Private CARD, JAMES Service Number 11811 Died 28/05/1915 Aged 27 2nd Bn. Border Regiment WIMEREUX COMMUNAL CEMETERY Son of Mr. and Mrs. Card, of 4, Pemberton Valley, Wigan, Lancs.
https://www.cwgc.org/find/find-war-dead/
https://www.twgpp.org/photograph/view/3186628
(Photo of Grave)
British Army Service Records First name(s) James Last name Card Age 26 Birth year 1888 Birth town Wigan Birth county Lancashire Birth country England Service number 11811 Regiment Border Regiment Unit / Battalion 3rd, 2nd Battalion Year 1914 Residence town Wigan Residence county Lancashire
(Parents. William Henry, Mary Jane)
(Grandparents of Soldier, Annie Ridgway. Address Unknown)
(Uncle, John Grimshaw)
(Nieces, Nephews, Wilfred Lawrence (10), Arthur Lawrence (7) Address, 4, Douglas Terrace)
Edits (you have given War Death as 1917...it was 1915)
1871 Census (Canada) (Nova Scotia) Jeremiah Card Male 1826 Nova Scotia (Master Mariner) Hannah Card Female 1830 Nova Scotia Albert Card Male 1852 Nova Scotia (Mariner) Alberta Card Female 1854 Nova Scotia Eugene Card Male 1856 Nova Scotia Rubemia Card Female 1858 Nova Scotia Edith Card Female 1860 Nova Scotia Margaret Card Female 1862 Nova Scotia Esther Card Female 1869 Nova Scotia
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6 Oct 2019 07:41 |
William Henry Card married Jane Grimshaw and one of their children was a son named James Card 1887 - 1917
I found his ww1 army records and in them it says grandparents of the soldier ANNIE RIDGEWAY, address unknown
his maternal grandmother was ALICE BRADSHAW so it cant be her so I was wondering if this Annie rRdgeway was William Henry's mum ??
I have looked on freebmd, lancopc and Lancashire bmd for a birth of Annie Ridgeway . my thinking was if she was William henry's mum then she might not have married but if she had then is there any chance of finding her.
thanks Linda
Anyone got any ideas ?
Thank you
Linda
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6 Oct 2019 07:29 |
everyone on here is wonderful as usual.
I am always amazed at how you can collate information so quickly.
Im not too sure about the Haworth family connection and if someone could explain it for me .
I am surmising that there is no way that I can find out when and where William henry card was born.
I am contemplating a visit to Lancashire records office soon and is there anything I could ask to see that might help me
once again thank you all so much for your help
Linda
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5 Oct 2019 07:01 |
thank you Chris
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5 Oct 2019 06:52 |
Some to look round on...
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http://kencarrico.tripod.com/cardsilas.htm
(google search brings above, Family)
https://www.novascotiagenealogy.com/
(For Births etc.)
http://www.crewlist.org.uk/#Data
UK and Ireland, Masters and Mates Certificates, 1850-1927
(above, Ancestry)
(perhaps get his Will)
(and below the Ship)
PALMAS 54394 St John, NB, 41/1866, Sail, 1284 tons Appropriation Books, RSS View entry for PALMAS in Appropriation Books MHA CLIP More... St John, NB, Sail MNL, 1870 View entry for PALMAS in MNL 1870, page 294 St John, NB, Sail, Ship MNL, 1880 View entry for PALMAS in MNL 1880, page 456
http://www.crewlist.org.uk/data/viewimages?regtype=MNL&year=1870&name=PALMAS&steamsail=Sail&page=294
http://www.crewlist.org.uk/#Data
(above also has his Father)
(was he Born in Liverpool, or taken there?, and brought up)
(1881 from Choccy, worth investigating also)
Baptism: 8 Aug 1862 All Saints, Wigan, Lancashire, England Elizabeth Howarth - [Child] of William Howarth & Ellen Born: 18 Jul 1862 Abode: Lyon St. Occupation: Overlooker Baptised by: C. H. Newbold Clerk in Orders Register: Baptisms 1861 - 1865, Page 125, Entry 999 Source: LDS Film 1885682
Baptism: 18 Dec 1859 Immanuel, Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire, England Thomas Haworth - Son of William Haworth & Ellen Born: 13 Nov 1859 Abode: Shad Street Occupation: Over-looker Baptised by: Alexander Gallaher Register: Baptisms 1837 - 1866, Page 161 Source: LDS Film 1470816
(wasn't able to get back on GR!, earlier, to add more, but Maiden Name of Mother Eastwood, Thomas Surname was Haworth)
Marriage: 21 Dec 1850 St Mary the Virgin, Blackburn, Lancashire, England William Haworth - (X), under, Weaver, Bachelor, Blackburn Ellen Eastwood - (X), under, Spinster, Blackburn Groom's Father: Thomas Haworth, Clogger Bride's Father: George Eastwood, Labourer Witness: Thomas Livesey; John Pilkington Married by Banns by: W.J.Monk Register: Marriages 1850 - 1851, Page 164, Entry 327 Source: LDS Film 1278818
Marriage: 10 Jun 1882 St Thomas, Wigan, Lancashire, England Thomas Haworth - 22, Sizer in Mill, Bachelor, Taylor Street off York Street Mary Jane Moss - 19, Spinster, Gt. George St. Groom's Father: William Haworth, Overlooker in Mill Bride's Father: George Moss, Fireman Witness: John Halton; Elizabeth Haworth Married by Banns by: W. G. Sale, Curate Register: Marriages 1878 - 1888, Page 82, Entry 163 Source: Original register at Wigan Archives
1871 William Howarth Head - Male 39 1832 - Lancashire, England (Powerloom Overlooker) Ellen Howarth Wife - Female 39 1832 - Lancashire, England Edward Howarth Son - Male 18 1853 - Lancashire, England George Howarth Son - Male 17 1854 - Lancashire, England James Howarth Son - Male 15 1856 - Lancashire, England Thomas Howarth Son - Male 11 1860 - Lancashire, England Elizabeth Howarth Daughter - Female 8 1863 - Lancashire, England Hannah Smith Servant - Female 50 1821 - Lancashire, England Edwin Stock Boarder - Male 38 1833 - Lancashire, England Lyon Street, Wigan, Lancashire
1861 William Howarth Head Married Male 31 1830 Overlooker In Cotton Mill Blackburn, Lancashire, England Ellen Howarth Wife Married Female 31 1830 - Blackburn, Lancashire, England Edward Howarth Son - Male 8 1853 - Blackburn, Lancashire, England George Howarth Son - Male 7 1854 - Blackburn, Lancashire, England James Howarth Son - Male 3 1858 - Blackburn, Lancashire, England Thomas Howarth Son - Male 1 1860 - Lancashire, England 5, Appleton Street, Wigan, Lancashire
(in case anything led anywhere!)
(and just to add, Witnesses from William's Marriage)
Marriage: 2 Apr 1890 St John the Divine, Pemberton, Lancashire, England Robert Ormesher - (X), 26, Collier, Bachelor, 210 Scot Lane, Pemberton Alice Burns - 32, Factory Operative, Spinster, 65 Tunstall Lane, Pemberton Groom's Father: John Ormesher, Collier Bride's Father: Joseph Burns, Painter Witness: John Birkett; Margaret Sharples Married by Banns by: J. Llewellyn Register: Marriages 1890 - 1895, Page 3, Entry 5 Source: LDS Film 1885638
1881 Catherine Duyer Head Widow Female 50 1831 - Ireland John Duyer Son Single Male 18 1863 Cotton Hand Ireland Margaret Power Daughter Married Female 27 1854 Cotton Operative Ireland Catherine Power Grand Daughter Single Female 4 1877 - Wigan, Lancashire, England Mary Power Grand Daughter Single Female 2 1879 - Wigan, Lancashire, England Bridget Walsh Boarder Single Female 22 1859 Cotton Operative Ireland Thomas Lucas Boarder Single Male 30 1851 Coal Miner Ireland Michael Boland Boarder Single Male 20 1861 Coal Miner Ireland 5, Herbert Street, Wigan, Lancashire
1891 James A Howarth Head Married Male 33 1858 - Lancashire, England Elizabeth Howarth Wife Married Female 32 1859 Overlooker Cotton Factory Lancashire, England Joseph Howarth Son - Male 14 1877 Clerk Cotton Mill Lancashire, England Ellen Howarth Daughter - Female 8 1883 Scholar Lancashire, England Annie Howarth Daughter - Female 2 1889 - Lancashire, England William H Howarth Father - Male 61 1830 Labourer Cotton Mill Lancashire, England 5, Herbert Street, Wigan, Lancashire
Marriage: 14 Jan 1877 St Thomas, Wigan, Lancashire, England James Aspinall Howarth - (X), 20, Collier, Bachelor, Caroline Street Elizabeth Calland - (X), 19, Spinster, Gt. George St. Groom's Father: William Henry Howarth, Overlooker in a Cotton Mill Bride's Father: Joseph Calland, Clogger Witness: Hercules Hall; Elizabeth Topping Married by Banns by: Jas. Cronshaw, Vicar Register: Marriages 1870 - 1878, Page 200, Entry 399 Source: Original register at Wigan Archives
Baptism: 17 May 1857 St Mary the Virgin, Blackburn, Lancashire, England James Aspinall Howarth - [Child] of William Henry Howarth & Ellen Born: 25 Apr 1857 Abode: Turner Lane Occupation: Over-looker Baptised by: R. H. Hart, Curate Register: Baptisms 1854 - 1859, Page 489, Entry 3907 Source: LDS Film 1278805
Birth HAWORTH, JAMES ASPINALL EASTWOOD GRO Reference: 1857 J Quarter in BLACKBURN Volume 08E Page 315
(seems Harry Card 1881, was still with family at time of Marriage 1889, perhaps they 'took' him in)
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4 Oct 2019 22:51 |
thank you once again
On looking into Albert Card I find his father Charles Jeremiah Card had a brother called WILLIAM HENRY CARD. could our William henry been named after him I wonder Guess we will never know
Thank you all once again for your help Linda
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4 Oct 2019 21:48 |
Here's an Alberta Card, buried in the same cemetery as the Albert who died in 1873, and who was on the same ship "Palmas". Could this possibly be Albert's sister Alberta ??? - see 1871 census above:
Gravestone says" Alberta Card, died on board ship Palmas, off Antigua, West Indies, Nov 25th 1871, aged 18 years."
EDIT: Yes, it will be the same Alberta. On another face of the gravestone there's a memorial to Ernest E Card, who is Albert and Alberta's brother Ernest Eugene (Eugene on 1871 census ).
Ernest Eugene Card in the Canada, Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current Name: Ernest Eugene Card Death Date: 25 out 1873 (25 Oct 1873) Cemetery: Card Skaling Burying Ground Burial or Cremation Place: Summerville, Hants County (Hants), Nova Scotia, Canada
"2nd Officer on Board Ship Palmas Died at Kempt OCt 25 1873 age 18yrs" on stone.
Not a lucky ship for the Card family.
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4 Oct 2019 21:48 |
Thank you so much for your help. the 1901 and 1911 census are spot on and the marriages of his children are correct. I'm beginning to think that Albert might be the one who went to Canada because there is no sight of him anywhere. Williams mum might have not have registered his birth if she was an unmarried mother. It really is a conundrum .
I really do appreciate all the help you have given me
Linda
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4 Oct 2019 21:47 |
Don't know if these are all the same Albert Card or not - or several different ones? Birthplaces vary somewhat. The first one deserted 1872.
Albert Card in the Canada, Seafarers of the Atlantic Provinces, 1789-1935 Name: Albert Card Record Type: Crew Age: 20 Birth Year: abt 1852 Birth Place: Dorchester, England [ it means Dorchester, New Brunswick - mistranscribed ] Vessel Name: Island Home Vessel Type: Ship Voyage Departure Date: 2 May 1872 Voyage Departure Port: Liverpool, England Voyage Arrival Date: 22 Feb 1873 Voyage Arrival Port: Liverpool, England Vessel Registration Number: W859013 Vessel Registration Place: Windsor, Nova Scotia Year Vessel Constructed: 1859 Date Joined Present Ship: 2 May 1872 Place Joined Present Ship: Liverpool, England Crew Number: 7 Literacy: Signed name Completed What Signed On To Do?: No Discharge Date: 14 Jun 1872 Discharge Place: New York City, New York, USA Discharge: Deserted Registry of Last Ship: English Company From Last Ship: 0 Capacity (Rank): Able-bodied Seaman Payment Type (Time): By the month Wage: 315 Wage Currency: Sterling Cash Advance: 117 Cash Advance Currency: Sterling
The ship "Island Home"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_Home_(steamboat)
???
Albert Card in the Canada, Seafarers of the Atlantic Provinces, 1789-1935 Name: Albert Card Record Type: Crew Age: 22 Birth Year: abt 1847 Birth Place: Horton, King's, Nova Scotia, Canada [ Norton ] Vessel Name: British America Vessel Type: Ship Voyage Departure Date: 17 Dec 1869 Voyage Departure Port: Hantsport, Hant's, Nova Scotia, Canada Voyage Arrival Date: 20 Jan 1870 Voyage Arrival Port: Glasgow, Scotland Vessel Registration Number: W869020 Vessel Registration Place: Windsor, Nova Scotia Year Vessel Constructed: 1869 Date Joined Present Ship: 1 Dec 1869 Place Joined Present Ship: Hantsport, Hant's, Nova Scotia, Canada Crew Number: 13 Completed What Signed On To Do?: Yes Discharge: Remained Company From Last Ship: 0 Capacity (Rank): Ordinary Seaman
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Albert Card in the Canada, Seafarers of the Atlantic Provinces, 1789-1935 Name: Albert Card Record Type: Crew Age: 19 Birth Year: abt 1849 Birth Place: Dorchester, Westmoreland, New Brunswick, Canada Vessel Name: Mary Lowerison Vessel Type: Barque Voyage Departure Date: 19 Sep 1868 Voyage Departure Port: Rockland, Westmoreland, New Brunswick, Canada Voyage Arrival Date: 17 Dec 1868 Voyage Arrival Port: Ardrossan, Scotland Vessel Registration Number: J868062 Vessel Registration Place: St. John, New Brunswick Year Vessel Constructed: 1868 Date Joined Present Ship: 21 Sep 1868 Place Joined Present Ship: Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada Crew Number: 10 Literacy: Signed with an 'X' Completed What Signed On To Do?: Yes Discharge: Remained Last Discharge Date: 15 Sep 1868 Last Discharge Place: Saint John, St. John, New Brunswick, Canada Registry of Last Ship: English Company From Last Ship: 0 Capacity (Rank): Ordinary Seaman Payment Type (Time): By the month Wage: 20 Wage Currency: Dollars (not specified) Cash Advance: 10 Cash Advance Currency: Dollars (not specified)
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4 Oct 2019 21:35 |
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1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
15, Taylor Street, Wigan, Lancashire, England
William Howarth Head Married Male 49 1832 Overlooker Cotton Weaver Blackburn, Lancashire, England Ellen Howarth Wife Married Female 49 1832 - Blackburn, Lancashire, England Thomas Howarth Son Single Male 22 1859 Gen Labourer Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire, England Elizabeth Howarth Daughter Single Female 18 1863 Cotton Weaver Wigan, Lancashire, England >>>>>Harry Card Boarder Single Male 14 1867 Scholar Liverpool, Lancashire, England
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4 Oct 2019 19:56 |
Strange, couldn't find that 1939 entry on FMP, checked image on Ancestry, written on it says (1886 LEK) FMP have below...
William H Card 24 May 1886 Male Textile Operator Widowed 4 West Street, Manchester C.B., Lancashire
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(another about, but he coild fit below Marriage (image on FMP, Widower, age 40, occ. Joiner, his Father, William Card, occ. Builder. Residence for both, Crosfield Road. Kate, Widow, her Father, Thomas Panton, Farmer)
Marriages Mar 1910 ----------------------------------------------------- Card William Henry W. Derby 8b 361 JOHNSON Kate W. Derby 8b 361
1939 William H Card 15 Jun 1868 Male Joiner (Retired) Single (W on image) 45 Caird Street, Liverpool C.B., Lancashire
When was Death of your William?...
1911 (reference) William Henry Card Head Married Male 43 1868 Colliery Lampman Above Ground Lancs Liverpool Mary Jane Card Wife Married Female 49 1862 - Lancs Wigan James Card Son Single Male 23 1888 Colliers Drawer Lancs Wigan Annie Card Daughter Single Female 22 1889 Pit Brow Above Ground Lancs Wigan Benjamin Card Son Single Male 17 1894 Colliers Drawer Lancs Wigan Margaret Card Daughter - Female 14 1897 Spinning Lancs Wigan William Henry Card Son - Male 10 1901 School Lancs Wigan 56 Tunstall Lane Pemberton, Pemberton, Lancashire (says Married 23yrs, 6 children born, 6 living)
1901 William H Card Head Married Male 33 1868 Twister Cotton Factory Pemberton, Lancashire, England (Liverpool on image) Mary Jane Card Wife Married Female 39 1862 - Pemberton, Lancashire, England Jules Card Son - Male 13 1888 Sziess Clerk In Cotton Factory Wigan, Lancashire, England Ambrosine Card Daughter - Female 12 1889 - Wigan, Lancashire, England Ellen Card Daughter - Female 10 1891 - Wigan, Lancashire, England Benjiamin Card Son - Male 7 1894 - Pemberton, Lancashire, England Margaret Card Daughter - Female 4 1897 - Pemberton, Lancashire, England William H Card Son - Male 0 1901 - Pemberton, Lancashire, England Pemberton Valley, 4, Tunstall Lane, Pemberton, Wigan, Lancashire,
1891 William H Cord Head Married Male 24 1867 Railway Porter Lancashire, England Mary I Cord Wife Married Female 29 1862 - Lancashire, England James Cord Son - Male 4 1887 - Lancashire, England Amborzine Cord Daughter - Female 2 1889 - Wigan, Lancashire, England Ellen Cord Daughter - Female 0 1891 - Lancashire, England Wilcock Street, Wigan, Lancashire
(there is below)
Deaths Sep 1964 (>99%) ------------------------------------------------------- CARD WILLIAM H 97 WIGAN 10F 678
1939 Register (William not at home) William H Card 26 Sep 1900 Male Colliery Haulage Hand Now French Digger Arp Single Mary Jane Card 25 Apr 1861 Female Unpaid Domestic Duti Married Noah White 14 Nov 1887 Male Colliery Suface Han Married Annie White 13 Nov 1888 Female Unpaid Domestic Du Married 4 Pemberton Valley, Wigan C.B., Lancashire
Marriage: 22 Jul 1911 St Matthew, Highfield, Pemberton, Lancs. Noah White - 24, Labourer, Bachelor, 21 Pearl St. Annie Card - 22, Pit-Bank, Spinster, 56 Tunstall Lane Groom's Father: Robert White, Collier Bride's Father: William Henry Card, Mill Witness: Benjamin Card; Elizabeth Ellen Lindley Married by Banns by: H. Gordon Register: Marriages 1910 - 1912, Page 13, Entry 26 Source: Original register at Wigan Archives
Marriage: 26 Dec 1908 St John the Divine, Pemberton, Lancs. Arthur Lawrence - 20 years, Motorman, Bachelor, 4 Douglas Terrace Ellen Card - 17 years, Millhand, Spinster, Pemberton Valley Tunstall Lane Groom's Father: Richard Lawrence, Fireman Bride's Father: Henry Card, Millhand Witness: James Card; Elizabeth Lawrence Married by Banns by: Edward Francis Forrest Vicar Register: Marriages 1907 - 1915, Page 60, Entry 120 Source: Original register at Wigan Archives
Marriage: 15 Jun 1912 St Thomas, Wigan, Lancashire, England Benjamin Card - 18, Collier, Bachelor, 56 Tunstall Lane Martha Jane Hitchmough - 19, Spinster, 64 Willcock Street Groom's Father: William Henry Card, Factory Operative Bride's Father: William Hitchmough, Collier Witness: Jas. Card; Lizzie Hitchmough Married by Banns by: Richard Tebbs Vicar Notes: [Bride's firstname entered just as Jane then corrected by a note ''col 2, In entry 329 for Jane Hitchmough read Martha Jane Hitchmough. Corrected Feb 12 1914 By me C. R. Slee Vicar, In the presence of Martha Jane Card.'] Register: Marriages 1905 - 1915, Page 165, Entry 329 Source: Original register at Wigan Archives
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4 Oct 2019 19:17 |
Wondering about this family - all born Liverpool:
Mary Roche in the 1871 England Census Name: Mary Roche Age: 23 Estimated birth year: 1848 Relation: Head Gender: Female Where born: Liverpool Lancashire England Civil Parish: Toxteth Park Ecclesiastical parish: St Thomas Town: Liverpool County/Island: Lancashire Country: England Registration district: West Derby Sub-registration district: Toxteth Park ED, institution, or vessel: 24 Household schedule number: 36 Piece: 3797 Folio: 117 Page Number: 7 Household Members: Name Age Mary Roche 23 - unmarried, dressmaker William H Roche 4 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Mary A Roche 2 James J Roche 2/12 Eliza Finlay 22 - boarder, dressmaker Mary McDonald 26 - sister, married, dressmaker
I can't see any of the children's births conclusively.
EDIT: Probably not - there's a note beside William's entry, saying "Blind from birth".
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4 Oct 2019 18:49 |
No idea, but what about below?...Looking at Probate address, can't see one, Bedford Row, Liverpool, only below, could that be Casey on image?, not the clearest!)
Birth CASEY, WILLIAM HENRY - GRO Reference: 1869 J Quarter in WIGAN Volume 08C Page 23
1871 Patrick Carey Head - Male 39 1832 - Ireland (? Dresser) Mary Carey Wife - Female 37 1834 - Ireland John Carey Son - Male 17 1854 - Durham, England William Carey Son - Male 11 1860 - Durham, England Mary Jane Carey Daughter - Female 9 1862 - Lancashire, England Bridget Daley Mother-In-Law - Female 30 1841 - Ireland Birkett Street, Upper 2 Drinkwaters Gardens, Liverpool, Lancashire
(although below looks to match above)
Birth CAREY, WILLIAM DALEY GRO Reference: 1860 J Quarter in GATESHEAD Volume 10A Page 552
(no, probably not William Henry Casey Birth then, lol, scrap that theory!, and below given on 1939, then making Albert a bit young also, if William knew his correct D.O.B. that is!)
Birth Date: 24 May 1867
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4 Oct 2019 18:44 |
Albert Card in the Canada, Seafarers of the Atlantic Provinces, 1789-1935 Name: Albert Card Record Type: Crew Age: 14 Birth Place: Windsor, Hant's, Nova Scotia, Canada Vessel Name: Juno Vessel Type: Ship Voyage Departure Port: Liverpool, England Voyage Arrival Date: 9 Jun 1866 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Voyage Arrival Port: Liverpool, England <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< Vessel Registration Number: W865008 Vessel Registration Place: Windsor, Nova Scotia Year Vessel Constructed: 1865 Date Joined Present Ship: 15 Jan 1866 Place Joined Present Ship: Liverpool, England Crew Number: 7 Literacy: Signed name Family on Board?: Related to master Completed What Signed On To Do?: No Discharge Date: 10 May 1866 Discharge Place: Saint John, New Brunswick, Canada Discharge: Discharged with mutual consent Last Discharge Date: 28 Nov 1865 Last Discharge Place: Liverpool, England Registry of Last Ship: Same ship Company From Last Ship: 3 Capacity (Rank): Ordinary Seaman Payment Type (Time): By the month Wage: 115 Wage Currency: Sterling
If he was in Liverpool for a few months, he could well be William's father, and then returned to Nova Scotia before the 1871 census.
William's birth is probably registered under his mother's surname, and perhaps he only started using the name Card when he was older..
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4 Oct 2019 18:42 |
Photo of gravestone:
Albert Card in the Canada, Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current Name: Albert Card Birth Date: 1851 Death Date: 14 mai 1873 (14 May 1873) Death Place: At Sea Cemetery: Card Skaling Burying Ground Burial or Cremation Place: Summerville, Hants County (Hants), Nova Scotia, Canada
Gravestone reads:
Chief Officer on Board Ship Palmas died off the Western Island May 14 1873 age 22 y'rs
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4 Oct 2019 18:39 |
Yes , it is a possibility that the Albert who died at sea in 1873 might have been William's father. The probate notice does say that Charles Jeramiah was his father.
In which case, this would be Albert in 1871:
Albert Card in the 1871 Census of Canada Name: Albert Card Gender: Male Age: 19 Birth Year: abt 1852 Birth Place: Nova Scotia Religion: Weslyan Methodist Origin: English Province: Nova Scotia District: Hants District Number: 188 Subdistrict: Kempt Subdistrict Number: b Neighbors: Household Members: Name Age Jeremiah Card 45 Hannah Card 41 Albert Card 19 - mariner Alberta Card 17 Eugene Card 15 Rubenia Card 13 Edith Card 11 Margaret Card 9 Esther Card 2
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4 Oct 2019 18:31 |
Below comes up...
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01 May 1872 - Lloyd's List - London, London, England
LLOYD’S CAPTAINS’ REGISTER. Board of Trade, Apl. 27, 1872. The following is a list of Captains to whom Masters’ Certificates have been issued by the Registrar-General of Seamen. During the week ending 27th April, together with the names of the Ports where examinations took place.
Albert Card Liverpool
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4 Oct 2019 16:50 |
sorry but meant Albert not Calvert
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4 Oct 2019 15:52 |
Sorry if I sound a bit dim but am I right in thinking that the Calvert in the will could be William's father but died very young. I'm struggling to get my head around this. Doesn't help I'm on my break at work I'll keep looking for William's birth or see if I can find him on the 1881census Thank you everyone for your help Linda
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4 Oct 2019 14:51 |
I would doubt that William actually knew his father
Look carefully at the info - which shows that Albert was only 21 when he died.
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