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Christine
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30 Sep 2019 19:53 |
Elijah Rotton, born Wednesbury 1839. Last sighting i can find is 1878 in a Birmingham Trade Directory where he is a grocer and tea dealer in Aston.
checked websites for deaths / passenger lists etc, but can't find what happened to him.
any pointers very gratefully received!
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KathleenBell
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30 Sep 2019 20:06 |
Could the trade directory have been printed earlier than 1878 as there is this death:-
irst name(s) ELIJAH Last name ROTTON Gender Male Birth day - Birth month - Birth year - Age - Death quarter 2 Death year 1865 District West Bromwich County Staffordshire Volume 6B Page 398 Country England Record set England & Wales Deaths 1837-2007
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30 Sep 2019 20:08 |
for ref only
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census Aston Road Public House, Aston, Warwickshire, England
Elijah Rotton Head - Male 32 1839 - Staffordshire, England Louisa Rotton Wife - Female 29 1842 - Staffordshire, England Emma Rotton Sister - Female 14 1857 - Staffordshire, England
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KathleenBell
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30 Sep 2019 20:12 |
Ahhh...so the death I found isn't him.
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30 Sep 2019 20:16 |
It looks like this is them, assuming the marriage is this one
Marriages Mar 1861 (>99%)
ROTTON Elijah Wolverhampton 6b 483 SILK Lois Wolverhampton 6b 483
there was a daughter in 1876
ROTTON, SARAH ANN SILK GRO Reference: 1876 D Quarter in ASTON Volume 06D Page 395
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census Camp Street, Wednesbury, West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
Enoch Rotton Head Married Male 53 1838 Coach Iron Work Maker Staffordshire, England Lois Rotton Wife Married Female 48 1843 - Staffordshire, England Sarah Ann Rotton Daughter - Female 14 1877 - Warwickshire, England Frederick W Rotton Son - Male 13 1878 - Warwickshire, England Thomas Rotton Son - Male 6 1885 - Staffordshire, England
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30 Sep 2019 20:17 |
Odd though as it is definitely Enoch on the image 1891
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30 Sep 2019 20:19 |
ah, did Lois then marry her brother in law??
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census 6, Camp Street, Wednesbury, West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
Lois Rotten Lodger Head Married Female 38 1843 Charwoman Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England Sarah A Rotten Daughter Single Female 4 1877 - Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England Frederick W Rotten Son Single Male 3 1878 - Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England Enoch Rotten Brother In Law Single Male 43 1838 Filer In Coach Works (?) Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England Joseph Moseley Lodger Widower Male 70 1811 Coal Miner Unable To Work Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England James Marshall Lodger Widower Male 77 1804 Coal Miner Unable To Work Shropshire, England
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30 Sep 2019 20:22 |
Elijah and Enoch were brothers
1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Court Adam Street, Aston Near Birmingham, Aston, Warwickshire, England
Joshua Rotton Head Married Male 48 1803 Brass Founder Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England Elizabeth Rotton Wife Married Female 46 1805 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Sarah Ann Danks Daughter Married Female 26 1825 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Harriet Preston Daughter Unmarried Female 21 1830 - Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Thomas Rotton Son Unmarried Male 17 1834 Serew Maker Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England Enoch Rotton Son Unmarried Male 13 1838 Serew Maker Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England Elijah Rotton Son Unmarried Male 11 1840 - Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England Frederick Rotton Son Unmarried Male 8 1843 - Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England Benjamin Danks Son In Law Married Male 27 1824 Serew Maker For Gas Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England Joseph Preston Son In Law Married Male 22 1829 Spoon Polisher Ireland Sarah Ann Danks Grand Daughter Unmarried Female 2 1849 - Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England
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30 Sep 2019 20:31 |
Definitely not the 1865 death as that was a child
Birth ROTTON, ELIJAH SILK GRO Reference: 1864 J Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 709
Death ROTTON, ELIJAH 1 GRO Reference: 1865 J Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 398
there was also this one
Birth ROTTON, ENOCH SILK GRO Reference: 1865 D Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 702
death ROTTON, ENOCH 0 GRO Reference: 1865 D Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 464
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30 Sep 2019 20:48 |
Just for ref as I can't find anything Elijah
Deaths Jun 1902 (>99%) Rotton Enoch 64 W. Bromwich 6b 499
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30 Sep 2019 20:51 |
1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census 5, Camp Street, Wednesbury, West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
Enoch Rotten Head Married Male 64 1837 No Occupation Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England Lois Rotten Wife Married Female 59 1842 - Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England Thomas Rotten Son Single Male 16 1885 Coach Ironwork Filer Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England
1911 Census For England & Wales 5 Camp St Wednesbury, Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England
Lois Rotton Head Widow Female 69 1842 - Wednesbury Staffs Thomas Rotton Son Married Male 26 1885 Tube Warehouseman Wednesbury Staffs Eliza Rotton Daughter In Law Married Female 29 1882 - Wednesbury Staffs William Rotton Grandson - Male 5 1906 School Wednesbury Staffs James Rotton Grandson - Male 0 1911 - Wednesbury Staffs
Son Thomas born after the last known sighting of Elijah, so does look like he is Enoch's son.
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30 Sep 2019 21:17 |
mistranscribed
1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census 87, Holloway Bank, West Bromwich, Staffordshire, England
Elisah Rotton Head Married Male 22 1839 Coach Smith Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England Louis Rotton Wife Married Female 19 1842 - Wednesbury, Staffordshire, England
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30 Sep 2019 21:40 |
There is below, if she relates...
Chris :)
County Staffordshire Place Wednesbury Church name St John Register type Parish Register Register entry number 296 Marriage date 24 Jun 1899 Groom forename Alfred Edward Groom surname GITTINS Groom age 30 Groom condition bachelor Groom occupation Grocer Groom abode 7 School Lane - Heaton Chapel - Stockport Bride forename Sarah Ann Bride surname ROTTON Bride age 23 Bride condition spinster Bride abode 5 Camp St. Wednesbury Groom father forename Charles Groom father surname GITTINS Groom father occupation Grocer (deceased) Bride father forename Elijah Bride father surname ROTTON Bride father occupation Coachsmith (deceased) Witness1 Frederick William ROTTON Witness2 Annie DUDLEY
County Staffordshire Place Wednesbury Church name St Bartholomew Register type Parish Register Register entry number 338 Marriage date 16 Oct 1897 Groom forename Frederick William Groom surname ROTTON Groom age 19 Groom condition bachelor Groom occupation Fitting Maker Groom abode 5 Camp St. Bride forename Elizabeth Bride surname DIXON Bride age 21 Bride condition spinster Bride abode 5 Church Steps Groom father forename Elijah Groom father surname ROTTON Groom father occupation Coach Iron Smith Bride father forename Thomas Bride father surname DIXON Bride father occupation Tagger Witness1 James ROBERTS Witness2 Ellen FARMER
Baptism County Staffordshire Place Wednesbury Church name St James Register type Parish Register Register entry number 773 Baptism date 05 Nov 1862 Person forename Emma Person sex F Father forename Elijah Mother forename Lois Father surname ROTTON Person abode Potters Lane Father occupation Coachsmith
Baptism County Staffordshire Place Wednesbury Church name St John Register type Parish Register Register entry number 365 Baptism date 07 Aug 1864 Person forename Elijah Person sex M Father forename Elijah Mother forename Lois Father surname ROTTON Person abode Wednesbury Father occupation Coachsmith
Death ROTTON, ELIJAH 1 GRO Reference: 1865 J Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 06B Page 398
Baptism County Staffordshire Place Wednesbury Church name St Bartholomew Register type Parish Register Register entry number 172 Baptism date 04 Sep 1842 Person forename Lois Person sex F Father forename William Mother forename Emma Father surname SILK Father occupation Coachsmith Notes Entry reads Lois son of.
https://www.freereg.org.uk/
(not a Tea Dealer/Grocer)
West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1839
ROTTON Elijah Wednesbury Sandwell Register Office WED/2/179
http://www.westmidlandsbmd.org.uk/index.php
Birth ROTTON, ELIJAH CUTLER GRO Reference: 1839 M Quarter in WEST BROMWICH Volume 18 Page 555
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30 Sep 2019 22:01 |
Well, I can't find a death for Elijah or indeed a re-marriage for Lois to Enoch but I did find this which made me wonder if it might answer both these points??
1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census Lunatic Asylum, Hatton, Warwick, Warwickshire, England
First name(s) E ? Last name R Relationship Pauper Patient Marital status Single Sex Male Age 43 Birth year 1838 Birth town - Birth county - Birth place - Occupation Grocer House name Lunatic Asylum Street Hatton Town - Parish Hatton County Warwickshire Country England Registration district Warwick Archive reference RG11 Piece number 3090 Folio 109 Page 4 Record set 1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
I know it says he is 'single' but he is also a 'grocer' so it might be worth considering as it's not too far away?
Dea x
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30 Sep 2019 22:09 |
Saw one below...
Chris :)
White & Co.'s Commercial & Trades Directory of Birmingham, Vol. II, 1875
Rotten Elijah, Park ln. (perhaps Lane, as a George Teece at 72)
http://specialcollections.le.ac.uk/digital/collection/p16445coll4
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