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That army record has father Anthony Bell crossed through and "none" written in, for siblings full or half it just has "none".

alviegal that's the one I've been looking for but just can;t pin then down in 1881.

I keep coming back to this one but can't figure it out, with births or ages?

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
12, School Street, Brandon and Byshottles, Durham, Durham, England


Anthony Bell Head Married Male 40 1841 Coal Miner Durham, Durham, England
Margaret Bell Wife Married Female 32 1849 - Durham, England
David Bell Son Single Male 8 1873 - Shildon, Durham, England
John Bell Son Single Male 6 1875 - Bishop Auckland, Durham, England
Margaret Connor Visitor Single Female 22 1859 - Scotland
Robert Ravean Visitor Single Male 1 1880 - Ferryhill, Durham, England
John Bell Brother Married Male 22 1859 Coal Miner Spennymoor, Durham, England
Ann Bell Sister In Law Married Female 18 1863 - Germany
Mary Bell Daughter Niece Single Female 0 1881 - Ferryhill, Durham, England

Robert Bell's service record.

British Army Service Records

First name(s) Robert
Last name Bell
Age 35
Birth year 1879
Birth town Durham
Birth county Durham
Birth country England
Service number 313809
Regiment York and Lancaster Regiment
Unit / Battalion 3rd Reserve Battalion
Year 1914
Residence town Castleford
Residence county Yorkshire
Residence country England
Series WO 363
Series description Wo 363 - First World War Service Records 'Burnt Documents'



and his death.


SerjeantBELL, ROBERT

Service Number 3/3809

Died 28/08/1915

6th Bn.
York and Lancaster Regiment

Thank you Rambling, so no further as to a marriage, looks like a few years age difference between Anthony Bell and Mararet Lee, so perhaps he was a married man. Even unsure exactly where in Scotland Margaret was born so unable to trace her family. What ever the outcome my Pop would have had the Bell blood in him.thats for sure.

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BELL, ROBERT WILLIAM LEE
GRO Reference: 1877 J Quarter in HALTWHISTLE Volume 10B Page 334


EDIT No probably not.

John I did look at Scotland's People website but couldn't see a marriage there either.

Their first son Robert was born in 1879, so around before the 1881 census, so strange the family not found

Do you think they could have got married In
Scotland, ?

John, I haven't found a marriage so it's my guess they didn't marry but that the children were registered in fathers name anyway. When the couple split Margaret reverted to using her maiden name as did the children who stayed with her. Wish I could find her before 1881 though.

Yes Rambling, I also feel this is the family, but how strange that their surname is now Lee, the mothers maiden name, wished I could be a fly on the wall to see how that happened , obviously before 1901.

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ANTHONY
Last name BELL
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year 1837
Age 88
Death quarter 3
Death year 1925
District Pontefract
County Yorkshire
Volume 9C
Page 118

John that does look possible, as I noted the place name Glasshoughton as address for the brother on army records. and would also explain why Andrew put his mother's address as unknown.

The family is so confusing found an Anthony Bell b 1841 Durham, living with son Robert in 1911 census, states he was a widower, they were living in Glass Houghton nr Castleford. I wonder if He and wife Margaret seperated because she was living in Pontefract in 1911 under the name of Lee with 3 children all under name of Lee.

If could establish that Margaret Bell ne Lee was born in Scotland it would be even more proof this is the family but feel it is

Certainly looks like the family is called a Bell, The sister of my Pop was called a called Agnes Rebecca Lee born 1908, he also had a brother Robert Lee and a Andrew Frederick Lee all names in the Bell family. Oh my goodness the family are going to be shocked that their name could be Bell. Ironically Pops sister Edna May Lee married a John Bell in Sheffield

? BELL, ANDREW LEE
GRO Reference: 1885 D Quarter in DURHAM Volume 10A Page 365
BELL, ANTHONY LEE
GRO Reference: 1883 D Quarter in LANCHESTER Volume 10A Page 323

BELL, AGNES REBECCA LEE
GRO Reference: 1889 M Quarter in PONTEFRACT Volume 09C Page 138

That looks likely John

BELL, MARK mmn LEE
GRO Reference: 1881 D Quarter in DURHAM Volume 10A Page 343

Yes that’s his service Number, His Army record was put on a grandsons tree on Ancestry.

Yes this is the Lee family, no I do not have a marriage cert. What do you think of this R. I have just found a Mark Bell on the 1891 census, with mother Margaret and brothers Anthony and Andrew, looks like Andrew was born in Sleepburn, I think that was written on the Army record for Andrew, Do you think this could be the family, unsure where Margaret was born, couldn’t make it out.