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25 Sep 2019 20:15 |
What is quite interesting is that Maria Abel was a workhouse officer on 1901 census, described as "Girls trainer" so perhaps that is how she came to know of Enoch if he was in the workhouse?
Maria Abel Relationship Officer Marital status Single Sex Female Age 42 Birth year 1859 Birth town Bedford Birth town as transcribed BEDFORD Birth place England Birth place other as transcribed - Birth county Bedfordshire
Occupation Workhouse Officer House name - House number - Street - Town Balby with Hexthorpe Parish Balby with Hexthorpe
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25 Sep 2019 20:03 |
Just spotted you have found his death, no age is it
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25 Sep 2019 20:01 |
School post for Enoch Lee see it was 1907, wonder if he was adopted or just taken in by this couple named Abel. they were sn old couple. What a tangled web it all is.
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25 Sep 2019 19:55 |
Yorkshire Burials
First name(s) Enoch Last name Lee Sex Male Age 17 Birth year 1899 Death year 1916 Burial year 1916 Burial date 12 Mar 1916 Burial place Doncaster, Hyde Park Cemetery Consecrated Consecrated Plot reference LX157 County Yorkshire (West Riding) Country England Collection name Doncaster Cemetery Record set Yorkshire Burials Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records Subcategory Parish Burials
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25 Sep 2019 19:53 |
Sadly it gets worse,
Deaths Mar 1916 (>99%) Lee Enoch 17 Doncaster 9c 1042
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25 Sep 2019 19:52 |
Sorry Rambling must have missed the 1911 post finding Enoch Lee being a boarder, poor lad , just where was his mother, probably prison again
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25 Sep 2019 19:46 |
National School Admission Registers & Log-Books 1870-1914
First name(s) Enoch Last name Lee Birth year 1899 Birth date 25 Dec 1899 Event year 1907 School name Beechfield Junior Boys (British) School Town Doncaster County Yorkshire Country England Parent name(s) Mifs Abel Book type Admissions Archive reference SR78_2_3 Folio / page no. 15 Archive Doncaster Archives Record set National School Admission Registers & Log-Books 1870-1914 Category Education & work Subcategory Schools & Education Collections from Great Britain, England
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25 Sep 2019 19:44 |
Looks like 1871 could be her, her parents must have lived in Durham because she surely wouldn't be in Durham on her own age 12. Another mystery Rambling, see one of her children on the 1901 census was Enock, Lee, found him born Pontefract in 1899 but couldn't find him or mother Margaret on the 1911 census. In 1901 she was in prison in Pontefract. name of Bell been written in.
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25 Sep 2019 19:43 |
Spotted on 1891 census Andrew Bell ( who maybe would have been my Pops dad) states born in Yorkshire , on 1901 he is down as Andrew Lee born Durham his sister Agnes R born in Castleford but she I'd not on the 1901 . Looking back through posts a Mark Bell and on one of the Military records think it was Andrews, , he's mention as being an elder brother,
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25 Sep 2019 19:37 |
John pretty sure this is Enoch 1911 given birthplace
1911 Census For England & Wales 77 Balby Road Balby Doncaster Yorkshire, Balby with Hexthorpe, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Maria Abel Head Single Female 61 1850 - Bedford Andrew Thomas Abel Brother Widower Male 54 1857 Fitter Discharged Medically Pupil Late Of Arsenual Woolwich St James Doncaster
Enoch Lee Boarder - Male 12 1899 School Pontefact Yorks
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25 Sep 2019 19:34 |
Enoch in 1911. He is a boarder under L G B, whatever that is.
1911 Census For England & Wales
77 Balby Road Balby Doncaster Yorkshire, Balby with Hexthorpe, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Maria Abel Head Single Female 61 1850 - Bedford Andrew Thomas Abel Brother Widower Male 54 1857 Fitter Discharged Medically Pupil Late Of Arsenual Woolwich St James Doncaster Enoch Lee Boarder - Male 12 1899 School Pontefact Yorks
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25 Sep 2019 19:23 |
Looks like 1871 could be her, her parents must have lived in Durham because she surely wouldn't be in Durham on her own age 12. Another mystery Rambling, see one of her children on the 1901 census was Enock, Lee, found him born Pontefract in 1899 but couldn't find him or mother Margaret on the 1911 census. In 1901 she was in prison in Pontefract. name of Bell been written in.
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25 Sep 2019 19:16 |
And her parents?
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Sleetburn Colliery, Brandon & Byshottles, Durham, Durham, England
Patrick Lee Head - Male 45 1826 - Ireland Margaret Lee Wife - Female 41 1830 - Ireland Rebecca Lee Daughter - Female 18 1853 - Scotland John Lee Son - Male 16 1855 - Scotland Thomas Lee Son - Male 13 1858 - Scotland Jane Lee Daughter - Female 8 1863 - Scotland Peter Clark Lodger - Male 40 1831 - Ireland Charles Reynolds Lodger - Male 26 1845 - London, Middlesex, England William Wilson Lodger - Male 50 1821 - Yorkshire, England Edward Tooley Lodger - Male 43 1828 - Ireland John Green Lodger - Male 46 1825 - Durham, England
Scotland Roman Catholic Parish Baptisms
First name(s) Margaret Last name Lee Sex Female Birth year 1859 Birth date 27 Jun 1859 Baptism year 1859 Baptism date 27 Sep 1859 Denomination Roman Catholic Baptism place Barrhead Parish St John Diocese Glasgow County Renfrewshire Country Scotland Father's first name(s) Patrick Father's last name Lee Mother's first name(s) Margaret Mother's last name Lindsay
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25 Sep 2019 19:05 |
Margaret Lee???
1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Sleetburn Colliery, Brandon & Byshottles, Durham, Durham, England
Richard Y Teasdale Head - Male 56 1815 - Durham, England Mary Teasdale Wife - Female 46 1825 - Northumberland, England William M Teasdale Son - Male 26 1845 - Durham, England John R Teasdale Son - Male 17 1854 - Durham, England Margaret Lee Servant - Female 12 1859 - Scotland Renfrewshire
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25 Sep 2019 19:02 |
That's the one I'm sure Chris, children are on the service record/
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Chris Ho :)
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25 Sep 2019 19:00 |
No idea on Census below, the Soldier Robert Bell War Death 1915, makes mention of Widow Mary Ann (Soldiers Effects)...
Chris :)
1911 Robert Bell Head Married Male 31 1880 Coal Miner Hewer Durham N K Mary Bell Wife Married Female 30 1881 - Yorkshire Methley Edna May Bell Daughter Single Female 2 1909 - Yorkshire West Allerton Robert Harold Bell Son Single Male 3 1908 - Yorkshire Castleford Anthony Bell Boarder Widower Male 70 1841 Coal Miner Hewer Durham N K Clark Hutton Boarder Single Male 28 1883 Coal Miner Hewer Ireland Co Derry 51 King Street Glasshoughton, Glass Houghton, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), (says Married 4yrs, 3 children born, 2 living, 1 died)
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Marriages Dec 1906 (>99%) -------------------------------------------------------- BELL Robert Pontefract 9c 171 ROGERS Mary Ann Pontefract 9c 171
Birth BELL, EDNA MAY ROGERS GRO Reference: 1909 J Quarter in TADCASTER Volume 09C Page 1034
(on Marriage image, age 27, Bachelor, occ. Miner, his Father, Anthony Bell, occ. Miner. Residence, 33, Temple Street. Mary Ann, 25, Spinster, 3, Leaf St, Father, Enoch Rogers, occ. Miner, wits. Enoch Rogers, Sarah Ann Rogers )
(below was at 5)
1901 John Thos Bell Head Married Male 24 1877 Coal Hewer Durham, Durham, England Lily Bell Wife Married Female 23 1878 - Castleford, Yorkshire, England John Ed Bell Son - Male 0 1901 - Castleford, Yorkshire, England 5, Temple Street, Castleford, Pontefract, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding),
1911 Robert Hall Boarder Single Male 46 1865 Carter Nottingley Yorkshire John Thomas Bell Head Married Male 34 1877 Coal Miner Hewer - Lillie Bell Wife Married Female 33 1878 - Castleford Yorkshire John Thomas Bell Son - Male 9 1902 - Castleford Yorkshire Robert Bell Son - Male 8 1903 - Castleford Yorkshire Margaret Bell Daughter - Female 4 1907 - West Allerton Yorkshire 26 Eastfield Lane Castleford, Castleford, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding),
Marriages Jun 1900 (>99%) ----------------------------------------------------- Bell John Thomas Pontefract 9c 189 Hall Lilley Pontefract 9c 189
(his Father also Anthony Bell, occ. Miner, and below also)
David Bell abt 1872 26 Dec 1898 Castleford, All Saints Maria Isabell Broome
1901 David Bell Head Married Male 29 1872 Colliery Bye Worker Cragg Hill, Durham, England Maria Isabell Bell Wife Married Female 27 1874 - Aberford, Yorkshire, England Victoria Eva Bell Daughter Single Female 0 1901 - Pontefract, Yorkshire, England 6, Carleton View, Pontefract, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding),
1911 David Bell Head Married Male 40 1871 Fish Hawker Durham NK Maria Isabell Bell Wife Married Female 38 1873 - Yorks Aberford Victoria Eva Bell Daughter - Female 10 1901 - Yorks Pontefract Arthur Bell Son - Male 7 1904 - Yorks Glass H 7 King Street Glasshoughton, Glass Houghton, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding),
(probably relates below)
09 December 1896 - Yorkshire Evening Post - Leeds, Yorkshire, England
At Castleford to-day, Anthony Bell, miner, was fined 15s., or fourteen days, for having matches in his possession at Glass Houghton Colliery
British Army Service Records First name(s) Robert Last name Bell Birth year 1879 Birth parish Bull Craig (Bull Cragg) Birth town Durham Birth county Durham Birth country England Service number 7697 Regiment York And Lancaster Regiment Year 1897 Attestation date 07 Dec 1897 Attestation age years 18 Attestation age months 2 Attestation service number 7697
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25 Sep 2019 18:50 |
a couple of other Bell/Dennison children
BELL, SARAH DENNISON DENNISON GRO Reference: 1873 J Quarter in AUCKLAND Volume 10A Page 272
BELL, JOHN THOMAS DENNISON GRO Reference: 1874 D Quarter in AUCKLAND Volume 10A Page 253
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25 Sep 2019 18:33 |
Perhaps Margaret Dennison was his true wife. She was described as being a 'lunatic' on the 1881 census. I wonder who Margaret Connor from Scotland is.
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25 Sep 2019 18:25 |
That 1891 census. Margaret is born ???? Head, W B. Or N B.
1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Folly Road, Brotherton, Pontefract, Yorkshire & Yorkshire (West Riding), England
Anthony Bell Head Married Male 48 1843 Miner Durham, Durham, England Margaret Bell Wife Married Female 31 1860 - - Robert Bell Son Single Male 12 1879 Scholar Durham, Durham, England Mark Bell Son - Male 9 1882 Scholar Durham, Durham, England Anthony Bell Son - Male 7 1884 Scholar Durham, England Andrew Bell Son - Male 5 1886 Scholar Yorkshire, England Agnes R Bell Daughter - Female 2 1889 - Castleford, Yorkshire, England
EDIT Could be born BarrHead.
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25 Sep 2019 18:25 |
AHA! So that's this one which helps not at all!
BELL, DAVID DENNISON DENNISON GRO Reference: 1872 M Quarter in AUCKLAND Volume 10A Page 242
First name(s) David Dennison Last name Bell Gender Male Birth year 1872 Birth place - Baptism year 1872 Baptism date 17 Mar 1872 Residence Shildon, Durham, England Place Shildon County Durham Country England Father's first name(s) Anthony Father's last name Bell Mother's first name(s) Margaret Mother's last name Bell Record set England Births & Baptisms 1538-1975
Marriages Jun 1871 (>99%) BELL Anthony Auckland 10a 381 Dennison Margaret Auckland 10a 381
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