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Sorry ArgyllGran missed your post there, thanks for that :-)

Chris thank you very much for that link, it's also helpful for other members of family :-)

Snippet re Hampton Court stables, where William senior was living in 1841 (or at least his wife was living at the Stable Yard) :

"Two centuries later, King George II decided not to use Hampton Court as a royal residence any more and the stables fell into disuse. The east side was converted to an inn, called Chequers, but that closed in the 1840s."

https://tinyurl.com/y4764rlw

From below link...

https://www2.richmond.gov.uk/lbrburials/(S(oox5shpp0fjchdrreg0myhkm))/Search.aspx

Chris :)

Deceased name Elizabeth Sarah BUDD
Date of Burial 14/11/1933
Gender Female
Age 73 Years
Date of death Unknown
Location Richmond Cemetery
Section 6
Grave 9347

Thanks very much ArgyllGran , I will look further after tea :-)

Possibly Elizabeth's death:

Deaths Dec 1933 (>99%)
Budd Elizabeth S 73 Richmond S 2a 696

Ooh ArgyllGran now that address rang a bell! Looks very hopeful!

1911, Sister Harriet lived at 86 Windmill Road Hampton Hill Middlesex, Hampton, Middlesex, England


Caroline Kemp Head Single Female 82 1829 Old Age Pensioner Middlesex Teddington
Harriet Budd Niece Single Female 67 1844 Parish Relief Middlesex Hampton Court

Henry William Budd
in the England & Scotland, Select Cemetery Registers, 1800-2016
Name: Henry William Budd
Age: 74
Birth Date: abt 1849
Death Date: abt 1923
Burial Date: 15 Nov 1923
Burial Place: Waltham Forest, Greater London, England
Cemetery: Chingford Mount Cemetery
Cemetery Section: B9
Grave Number: C/R 14575
Interment Number: C/R 14608

Home address: 59 Windmill Road, Hampton Hill, Hampton.

Looked at him Maddie but that one was 31, so not him, thanks though :-)

probably not but just in case

HENRY
Last name BUDD
Gender Male
Birth day -
Birth month -
Birth year -
Age -
Death quarter 3
Death year 1854
District Kingston
County Surrey
Volume 2A
Page 121

In 1891 the enumerator has mixed up Elizabeth and Henry's birthplaces:


Henry Budd
in the 1891 England Census
Name: Henry Budd
Gender: Male
Age: 41
Relationship: Head
Birth Year: 1850
Spouse: Elizabeth Sarah Budd
Child: Henry William Johnson Budd
Birth Place: Newhaven, Sussex, England
Civil Parish: St James
Residence Place: Dover, St James, Kent, England
Sub Registration District: St James
ED, Institution or Vessel: 7
Neighbors:
Piece: 741
Folio: 51
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Budd 41 - club steward
Elizabeth Sarah Budd 29 - Hampton Wick, Middlesex
Henry William Johnson Budd 9 - Eastbourne
(and four servants)

Address: Dover Club, Wellesley Road


BUDD, HENRY WILLIAM JOHNSON mms WATERS
GRO Reference: 1881 S Quarter in EASTBOURNE Volume 02B Page 65

Could be ArgyllGran. Will have a look thanks.

These are the births of those 2 daughters,
BUDD, HARRIET WATERS
GRO Reference: 1882 S Quarter in EASTBOURNE Volume 02B Page 80
BUDD, LIZZIE KENEFICK WATERS
GRO Reference: 1880 M Quarter in EASTBOURNE Volume 02B Page 75

???

Henry William Budd
in the UK, Poll Books and Electoral Registers, 1538-1893
Name: Henry William Budd
Poll Year: 1878
Parish or Rectory: St Mary, Stoke Newington

43 Sandbrook Road

Could Henry have adopted the middle name William in later years?
I can't see any other Henry Budd born c1849 in Kingston reg district:

Henry W. Budd
in the 1881 England Census
Name: Henry W. Budd
Age: 32
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relationship to Head: Head
Spouse: Elizabe. Budd
Gender: Male
Where born: Hampton Wick
Civil Parish: Eastbourne
County/Island: Sussex
Country: England
Street address: 14 Cornfield Ter
Marital status: Married
Occupation: Agent
Registration district: Eastbourne
Sub Registration District: Eastbourne
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors:
Piece: 1038
Folio: 31
Page Number: 8
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry W. Budd 32 - agent
Elizabe. Budd 31
Lizzy K. Budd
Fannie Bradford 19


Henry Wm Buda
in the 1901 England Census
Name: Henry Wm Buda
Age: 52
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Spouse: Elizabeth S Budd
Birth Place: Hampton Wick, Middlesex, England
Civil Parish: Worcester
Ecclesiastical parish: St Nicholas
Town: Worcester
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street address: The Cross Union Club
Registration district: Worcester
Sub-registration district: Worcester
ED, institution, or vessel: 30
Neighbors:
Piece: 2780
Folio: 15
Page Number: 22
Household schedule number: 128
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Wm Buda 52 - steward in clubs
Elizabeth S Budd 41
Harriett Budd 18
Budd John 15
Arthur L F Thomas 33 - boarder
Walter Wm Willmore 22 - waiter
Thomas Orme 16 - servant
Fanny Maria Ludlow 22 - servant


Henry William Budd
in the 1911 England Census
Name: Henry William Budd
Age in 1911: 62
Estimated birth year: abt 1849
Relation to Head: Head
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Hampton Wick, Middlesex
Civil Parish: Worcester
County/Island: Worcestershire
Country: England
Street address: Union Club, The Cross, Worcester
Marital status: Married
Occupation: stevens
Registration district: Worcester
Registration District Number: 377
Sub-registration district: Worcester
ED, institution, or vessel: 9
Household schedule number: 176
Piece: 17628
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry William Budd 62
Elizabeth Sarah Budd 52
Harriet Budd 28
(and three servants)

Marriages Jun 1879 (>99%)
BUDD Henry William Eastbourne 2b 103
WATERS Elizabeth Sarah Eastbourne 2b 103

This is very possibly William in 1861

Kneller Hall, Whitton, Twickenham, Brentford, Middlesex, England
First name(s) W
Last name Budd
Relationship Private
Marital status Unmarried
Sex Male
Age 20
Birth year 1841
Occupation Soldier
Birth town Hampton
Birth town as transcribed HAMPTON
Birth county Middlesex

That still leaves Henry to be found.

This is the 1841 census

1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Toy Stable Yard, Hampton, Kingston, Middlesex, England


Ann Sarah Budd Female 25 1816 Middlesex, England
William Budd Male 0 1841 Middlesex, England

Husband William bn 1821( ish) is on staff at Hampton court Palace on 1841

Ann Sarah Kemp.
married Budd, William
06 Jan 1838
Thames Ditton

On the 1851 census

1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Teddington Road, Hampton, Kingston, Middlesex, England

Birth place
Ann Budd Head Widow Female 37 1814 Laundress Hampton, Middlesex, England
William Budd Son - Male 10 1841 Scholar Hampton, Middlesex, England
Harriet Budd Daughter - Female 7 1844 Scholar Hampton Wick, Middlesex, England
Henry Budd Son - Male 2 1849 - Hampton Court, Middlesex, England
Ann Wright Visitor - Female 70 1781 - ( related to Ann Budd whose mmn was Wright) -

Now although it says Ann was a widow, i am not sure? and the more I look the more confused I get lol.

I have Harriet on the 1861 with her uncle Samuel Kemp at
Fishermans Houses, Water Lane, Teddington, Kingston, Middlesex, England

I am fairly certain this is Ann Sarah and husband in 1861

20, Caberley Park, Tonbridge, Kent, England

William Budd Servant Married Male 42 1819 Butler Middlesex, England
Ann Sarah Budd Servant Married Female 45 1816 Cook Twickenham, Middlesex, England

But I can't find Henry or William? Any help much appreciated
:-)