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If her age on the 1841 census was 30 to 34 then her birth would have been 1807 to 1811 (not 1811 to 1816 as you stated). If it happened to be 1807 then she would have been 17 when she married - young but not particularly young when it was legal for a girl to marry at 12 years of age right up until 1927 (although it didn't happen very often).

Kath. x

did ann die in child birth giving birth to henry father could not coup with a new baby or blamed henry for the death of ann

looks like i missed him, not on gro

in 1851 not with family but in the poor house aged 6 a pauper
poor little chap

any luck with ann

thank you

Did below relate?, Baptism could have been after her Death...(if you check GRO Index)

Chris :)

County Essex
Place Downham
Church name St Margaret
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 317
Baptism date 27 Apr 1845
Person forename Henry
Person sex M
Father forename William
Mother forename Ann
Father surname NORRIS
Person abode Downham
Father occupation Labourer

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County Essex
Place Downham
Church name St Margaret
Register type Parish Register
Register entry number 186
Burial date 20 Apr 1845
Burial person forename Ann
Burial person surname NORRIS
Person age 35
Burial person abode Downham


Births Jun 1845 (>99%)
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NORRIS Henry Robinson Billericay 12 11

thanks kath that would make her dob 1811 - 1816, making her even younger

pretty certain i have the right marriage as last son born 1843

NORRIS, SAMUEL ROBINSON Order GRO Reference: 1843 M Quarter in BILLERICAY Volume 12 Page 11

1851
William Norris
Age: 50
Estimated birth year: abt 1801
Relation: Head
Gender: Male
Where born: Stock, Essex, England
Civil Parish: Downham
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County/Island: Essex
Country: England
Street address:

Occupation:

Condition as to marriage:

Disability:

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Registration district: Billericay
Sub-registration district: Brentwood
ED, institution, or vessel: 8
Neighbors:
Household schedule number: 36
Piece: 1774
Folio: 546
Page Number: 11
Household Members:
Name Age
William Norris 50
William Norris 26
John Norris 15
Amelia Norris 12
Walter Norris 13
Samuel Norris 8

ann could have lied about her age when she married

The ages for adults on the 1841 census are rounded down to the nearest 5 years so Ann could have been anything from 30 to 34 years old.

Ages given on death records are quite often out by a year or two as it depends on what information the informant gives.

Kath. x

thank you for your imput
yes i assume that death is hers as she does not appear on 1851 census and it matches dob in 1841 census

however i am perplexed at the young age she appears to marry

maddie

walter in 1861

Walter Norris
England and Wales Census, 1861
Name:
Walter Norris
County:
London, Middlesex
Event Type:
Census
Event Date:
1861
Event Place:
City of London, Middlesex, England, United Kingdom
Ecclesiastical Parish:
St Thomas Charterhouse
Registration District:
St Luke
Gender:
Male
Age:
20
Marital Status:
Single
Occupation:
Tailor
Birth Year (Estimated):
1841
Birthplace:
Damerham, Essex
Page Number:
22
Registration Number:
RG09
Piece/Folio:
207 / 48
Affiliate Record Type:
Household
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Daniel Wordly Head Male 25 Penkridge, Staffordshire
Louisa Norris House Keeper Female 27 Coombesbury, Somerset
Walter Norris Male 20 Damerham, Essex

family in 1851

Walter Norris
England and Wales Census, 1851





Name:
Walter Norris
Event Type:
Census
Event Date:
1851
Event Place:
Downham, Essex, England
Registration District:
Billericay
Residence Note:
Billericay Road
Gender:
Male
Age:
10
Relationship to Head of Household:
Son
Birth Year (Estimated):
1841
Birthplace:
Downham, Essex
Page Number:
11
Registration Number:
HO107
Piece/Folio:
1774 / 546
Affiliate Record Type:
Household
Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
William Norris Head Male 50 Stock, Essex
William Norris Son Male 26 Ramsden Bell House, Essex
John Norris Son Male 13 Downham, Essex
Amelia Norris Daughter Female 12 Downham, Essex
Walter Norris Son Male 10 Downham, Essex
Samuel Norris Son Male 8 Downham, Essex

I assume this is the death you think is hers?

Ann Norris
in the Essex, England, Church of England Deaths and Burials, 1813-1994
Name: Ann Norris
Age: 35
Birth Date: abt 1810
Death Date: abt 1845
Burial Date: 20 Apr 1845
Burial Place: Downham, St Margaret, Essex, England

are you sure that is her death in 1845

Where have you looked?

To avoid duplication of effort......................

ann married william norris in jan1824 at ramsden bellhouse essex, williams 2nd marriage

william born 1798 stock to Issac norris

the 1841 census put their dob as 1811 for ann and 1806 for william
William Norris Male 35 1806 Essex, England
Ann Norris Female 30 1811 Essex, England
William Norris Male 15 1826 Essex, England
Rebecca Norris Female 13 1828 Essex, England
Louis Norris Male 11 1830 Essex, England
Susan Norris Female 9 1832 Essex, England
John Norris Male 3 1838 Essex, England
Amelia Norris Female 2 1839 Essex, England
Walter Norris Male 0 1841 Essex, England
Ann Wright Female 70 1771 Essex, England

their ist child william born april 1824 ramsden bellhouse followed by 8 other
Ann would have been only 13 at the time of birth of williams birth
ann died 1845

Ann Norris
Age
35
Birth Date
abt 1810
Death Date
abt 1845
Burial Date
20 Apr 1845

any help in finding her birth greatly apppreciated

i have all the info on the norris ascendants and decendants

thank you maddie